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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post Apr 30 2009, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(anti-informatic @ Apr 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Ok another thing is,
if thinking that money minded is something to proud of,
just imagine one thing, now u got infinite amount of money,
how are u going to be happy with it?
Me guess....get this&that,eat this/that,enjoy tis/that....
But how long all this will last?
Till die u have no regret?
Think again ROFL
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How would it be different if I had no money? Are you saying if I had no money I wont have regrets?

Same a normal except I would be able to afford anything I want.




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post May 4 2009, 12:37 AM

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I believe what the academics here are loudly discussing about is Darwinian ideas on Natural Selection as published in On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Species
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

I believe this was what moorish wanted to highlight when she started the thread. And the two academics having the debate are also have different interpretation of Darwin's works.

Darwin's theory is based on key facts and inferences drawn from them, which biologist Ernst Mayr summarized as follows:
-Individuals less suited to the environment are less likely to survive and less likely to reproduce; individuals more suited to the environment are more likely to survive and more likely to reproduce and leave their inheritable traits to future generations, which produces the process of natural selection
-This slowly effected process results in populations changing to adapt to their environments, and ultimately, these variations accumulate over time to form new species


I believe what everyone is discussing here is a modern interpretation of his ideas on Natural Selection. - money(being rich), being confident(believe in oneself), being successful, being attractive, younger, stronger, smarter etc(the dominant trait), are all different intrepretation of being suited to the environment. The more suited you are the higher chance you will be selected, again depending on the environment(standards/context) that you are in, the parameters of it will differ. No point again we argue on a standard(environment/reference) that we are using.

The jist of the whole arguement is that there are traits that attract people and the opposite sex. We cannot argue on which trait/parameter/character/class/etc are the dominant/critical one unless you are refering to a very specific environment. In the TS(moorish)'s environment, obviously she puts money as the dominant trait of attractiveness, whereas Hawk's has his own set of ideas as do Ezra.

Step a few steps back(further plesae...) and you will see that it all comes down to Natural Selection and the survival of the fittest. It is just that in the environment that you are in, what do YOU term as the dominant trait? whistling.gif


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post May 4 2009, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ May 4 2009, 12:53 AM)
For humans, survival of the fattest is possible, thereby negating natural selection.
For ezra, its more on the survival of the prettiest.
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That is the environment that he is in. We are not to judge on that.
He is talking about natural selection(set of trait that make ppl attractive)



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post May 4 2009, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 4 2009, 08:57 AM)
Bishop, you forgot to add in Fate...
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That is the sciencetific approach to this discussion. What you are refering to is Metaphysics and it is not Fate, it is Destiny. whistling.gif



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post May 4 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ May 4 2009, 01:10 AM)
The traits are physical and assumes that people who are physically attractive gets hitched sooner than those who aren't.
There are those that choose not to inspite of those traits you see...so it isn't on natural selection anymore.
Favourable traits or not isn't a determinant factor to procreation anymore, especially in the human world.
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I disagree with that. You misunderstood my post(now in page 45) on the Darwinian ideas on Natural Selection.

As ealier quoted
-Individuals less suited to the environment are less likely to survive and less likely to reproduce; individuals more suited to the environment are more likely to survive and more likely to reproduce and leave their inheritable traits to future generations, which produces the process of natural selection

money(being rich), being confident(believe in oneself), being successful, being attractive, younger, stronger, smarter etc(the dominant trait), are all different intrepretation of being suited to the environment. The more suited you are the higher chance you will be selected, again depending on the environment(standards/context) that you are in, the parameters of it will differ.

The determinant factor when you choose a mate is because you think that he or she is better/dominant/superior to the other options. If all things are equal you would choose a richer over a poorer. If all things are equal you whould choose a stronger over the weaker. The pretty over the ugly. The smarter over the idiot.

Depending on your environment, only some of these parameters might be relavant to you(hence Darwin's term - suited to the environment). As Ezra claims that when you are 30++ you get more desperate is because that your environment have changed and the options have reduced. (example- a woman in her 30s will have fewer male options to choose from as socially women perfers more mature over younger mate/ although Demi Moore thought otherwise whistling.gif )

You would choose the one whom you think is most dominant(most suited) in your environment as your mate. Everytime. Period.

Note that your environment changes as you grow/mature and you might have settled of a person that is better suited to your previous environment. Then you are screwed. rclxub.gif (hence the many divorce and affairs out there)

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post May 10 2009, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 10 2009, 02:23 PM)
In fact, here's an analogy. Let's say someone starts a thread titled "Guys are sex-minded... and proud of it". The TS goes on to say how it's men's nature to go after sexy women - and if you're fat, don't wear makeup, don't wear revealing clothes and don't know how to giggle like a Japanese schoolgirl, you're simply losers in the game of love.

Wouldn't you, as a woman, be offended by that? That's how men tend to feel, whenever this "money-minded" topic crops up. smile.gif
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"Guys are sex-minded... and proud of it"

There is a man who has three girlfriends, but he does not know which one to marry. So he decides to give each one $5000 and see how each of them spends it.
The first one goes out and gets a total makeover with the money. She gets new clothes, a new hairdo, manicure, pedicure, the works, and tells the man, "I spent the money so I could look pretty for you because I love you so much."
The second one went out and bought new golf clubs, a CD player, a television, and a stereo and gives them to the man. She says, "I bought these gifts for you with the money because I love you so much."
The third one takes the $5000 and invests it in the stock market, doubles her investment, returns the $5000 to the man and reinvests the rest. She says, "I am investing the rest of the money for our future because I love you so much."
The man thought long and hard about how each of the women spent the money, and decided to marry the one with the biggest breasts. whistling.gif

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post May 10 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 10 2009, 05:51 PM)
hmm.gif guess I phail, think I need to reconsider share market rclxub.gif
Maybe Dr.Saran is more appropriate
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yep. there are many procedures to increase your "market value" whistling.gif

On a side note, the blonde hair not so good with your very nice skin colour. Needs a little more contrast to make your feature pop. You have very sleepy eyes, the light hair colour highlights it too much... blush.gif

Or you can just upsize your "market value" and we forget about the hair colour all together... whistling.gif

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