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vice versa, you probably works in corp (I'm assuming) hence you mix with the level of people in the corp never ending struggle, people with tie and woman in power suit. But you're also looking at things at your level only, try to go out in the street and see what are the jobs offered in the real world.
I've just only recently joined a big corporate. Even then they don't advocate power suits and ties, but I get what you mean. Prior to this I've worked for smaller companies with a staff size of less than 10. Prior to that I sold insurance door to door. Those of you who work will notice the occasional pesky insurance agent at the doorstep of your office asking for an opportunity to share a new product with you. Well it may have been me. Why did I decide to sell door to door when I'm a graduate? I thought my motivation was money, but in fact, I wanted job satisfaction, status and recognition more. I'm hoping these three goals will lead me to a treasure chest of course. With some people, it is the other way around. They want money because with it, comes status, recognition, etc.
My point is, I know what jobs are being offered. When I sold insurance, the agencies I worked with consisted of mainly women and I tell ya, they made a lot of money. If you feel that men or women are limited by what's being offered, I can tell you right now that you can create your own opportunities. These days, opportunities that weren't available before are open to women. There may still be discrimination on some countries like Japan or the Middle East, but mostly, it's there for the taking. Women just need to learn not to limit themselves by making excuses.
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Look at jusco (coz thats my fav hangout ) what are the position there available, how many cashiers?
40 people? how many promoters/sales 40? waitress? 20? how many managers?3 how many supervisor? 10?
so how many girls working just to survive, and how many are actually working and hope one day she hope to reach manager level?
the odds are 40:1?
how many are career driven? how many doesnt even care? they work just to eat?
I'm not going to go down this road because the argument would be based purely on assumptions. I don't have statistics to prove otherwise, I only speak from experience.
All hierarchy's are structured like a pyramid. You are saying that people have to reach the top to live a comfortable life. I don't agree. People have different definitions of how much is enough and most people are content to stay at a certain level because the higher you climb, the more you have on your shoulders so we try to strike a balance. Not everyone aims to be CEO. My boss for example is content to stay where he is now and he rakes home a 5 figure salary.
You ask how many are driven? Well, I can tell you that it's no different with men. I'm not going to use Jusco as an example because that limits the scope of our discussion to a sector that doesn't pay well unless you are part of management. What you've just described is a scenario that every working person is faced with, both men and women. Where I work, there is a fair number of lady bosses. Heck the boss of my boss is a lady and she works harder than almost anyone I know. The way I see it then, a fair number are. What drives them on the other hand, I'm not going to guess. It isn't about how many women want successful careers. It's the fact that women are starting to see that they have opportunities now, and like I said, more and more will continue to want what was traditionally a piece of the pie served only to men.
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hence I say majority of the girls work to survive only a small handful work with a high goal set in their mind.
I'm not saying there is none, we're duscussing what drives this woman to work in general.
No different for men. I'm not saying that the majority of women who work, have high career expectations. I'm saying that with the success stories of women I mentioned earlier, more and more will want to emulate them. We all have role models in life, whether it be our parents or someone else. With more and more women attaining success these days, the pool of role models for women have widended.
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I duno if its safe for me to assume this, not many woman bosses made it entirely from their own. Most cases either from hubby or family s rich. Rich people know rich people the get more connection and more business, of coz you need the ability to run the biz, but then the odds of success if higher.
Money makes money regardless of what gender you are, that's a given. It's also who you know or rather, who knows you. I agree with all of this however I'd also like to think that there are women who earned it on their own. My aunt is one of them. She left school to become a secretary after form 5 to work in a PR firm. She loved her job and years later today, she owns her own firm and makes a really good living. I should know as I sold her an insurance policy back in the day and I'm one of the beneficiaries

She didn't know anyone. All her connections were made through her own initiatives. You won't hear of her or read about her, but it just comes to show that there are success stories we may not have heard of.
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If my father is a Tan sri, I can loan money from him to open lets say a grocery store (since I'm simply minded and always shop at one), I just shout to the world who my father is, I'm sure plenty would come and consign thier stuff to me coz they dun have to trust me, they trust who my father is. See how the advantage increased?
Same for men.
I think that women are becoming more empowered. This effectively means more competition for men in the workforce. I mean how many men can accept having a more successful wife? Given a choice, you reckon men would rather their wives stay home so as to not put a dent in their egos? I don't disagree that some women work because they have to help make ends meet. I also however realise that more women work because they want more out of life. Your husband can earn mega bucks but by earning yourself, you increase your combined income. It also gives you a sense of independance, spending money you earned on your own. You also grow in confidence and need no longer be submissive because like it or not, men tend to have more control over you when they are the sole income providers. A lot of the benefits from having a successful career are intangible and it's something money cannot buy. I can't pay to feel what it's like to have executed a project succesfully. I can't buy respect because to me, respect is earned, not given.
There is nothing wrong with not wanting all that. Not all men want that either which is why you have losers who mooch of their parents well into adulthood. I just don't want women to limit themselves in what they perceive to be a man's world. Also, natural instinct or whatever aside, I think it's best not to be dependant on another because I buy into the saying, " if you want things to be done right, do it yourself". This is what drives me in my career and if my future wife benefits from it, so be it.