You want to define reality in a context of argument. Just effing try your best and hunt the chick. If they phailed badly, let them come to CC, let us hear their cries and help them. Advices and listening after all cost lest than 2 cents
And it's wrong? It's wrong to induce ourselves to feel good about ourselves? No it isn't, but its wrong to foolishly not willing to admit the lost that we made. I guess you forgot to wrote down the admittance part which i find it very important to put into context. Egoism shuns away from admittance. Lack of proper guidance is the reason why.
How do you define truth? Is it a part of reality? Is it always meant to be cold blooded? Is it always have to be harsh, so people can actually learn and grow from the excruciating past and pain? Or is it because of the small little step that we make each day both consciously and subconsciously? You do know the possibility that each of us has, which is simple. Be it positive and negative. Let's don't talk about the grey area as it will tangled our minds bashing each other trying to convince who is truer than the other but at the end of the day, we're the fools out of it. You care for your own interest, i care for mine. Its how i arouse your interest that matters to you.

well I understand few of you whom are disturb by reality....so start making money or settle for less
you can be pissed...but this is sadly the fact.

TS....

lets get into the reality.... yes, security can be measured in any aspect... be it monetary, assets, love, caring, family, career, etc...

but in this now world.... it seem that monetary is being the main measurement tools for marriage / life partner.

yes, i do admit that monetary value does provide securities..... but is monetary value can buy happiness? health? freedom?

i still rekindle my more than 10 years r/s with my first love when i was 15... in which lasted 10 years.... the issue n motive of this story is simple, im just a reverse of the story u posted of the girl.

i had to endure almost 6 years hiding from the knowledge of her parents... as her father is a famous corporate figure n a tan sri title holder...where else, im just a normal not so well being family-borned.

later, when being introduced to her father, thats where the hell starts.... am i able to provide security, caring, shelter family, being a good husband n father, etc etc. this keep pressurized me to keep work hard, even double n sometimes triple employment, just to show monetary securities....

by end of the day... which i didnt regret making the decision (i guess u all readers will read n guess my decision) n i ask myself, am i working hard for myself or just to get monetary securities for my life partner?

till today, i still not regret to make the decision, as i truly believe my family needs me more than anything else.... my dad got into accident half a year ago n totally hadicapped as well as  totally lost source of income... being the eldest, i felt the responsibility should shoulder upon on me....

though all this happens, i kept a healthy finance balance... apart from financing my house n cars, i still able to fund my dad treatment n still could afford to keep substantial amount of investment in unit trusts, etc....

i believe this may not related.... but what would i want to point out is... though with hard life, u still make yr life meaningful, as long as fair amount of hard work... positive attitude and smart thinking.... whenever the challanges thrown to u, u would able to survive w/o monetary securities... though i felt tired, weak, no social-life, not many friends... i feel grateful that i try hard to pay my responsibility back to my parents... n i had answer to questions asked when i leave this world...

so, positively... monetary securities is important.... but family n health in which even billions or trillions of monetary securities cant buy... if these could be brought, then it not as same feelings as genuine!

to me... believe yr instincts, u could create a world of your own, if u n yr partner willing to work hard for the good of your future undertakings.

not necessary to get a rich life partner, just for monetary securities, n for the rest of your life being like nothing to do, as monetary had done everything to u... or chose a life in which u n yr life partner work hard for the sake of future undertakings.... n by yr old age, u felt a sense of achievements in which your future generation could boast about....

either decision make... u will get an apple... just the difference is, whether u buy the apple... or u start from planting the apple

From the topic http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/967243 it made me think deep why are girl money minded.

Thousands of years ago, money do not exist, girl will choose their partner base on security, they look for well built male who can protect them from wild animals and wild man or whatever wild things,they're vulnerable when they;re pregnant, and the years when they need to raise children. This has been genetic in female.

Fast forward to today, we no longer require mr. muscle to protect us, security took a new meaning, security = money. So girl will marry a guy when he is rich and this is why the quote ada wang ada amoi.

So girls, be proud when you choose a rich husband, and to those girl who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the mother instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

Moorish i agreed with you girl money minded its ok.And i also can understand why you would prefer to choose richer man to be your husband.

From what i read from page 1~12 i can see that u are a girl that have prepared to have a husband that might be unloyal to you.

But there is another reality in this world...High risk high return...

If u marry a rich man, yes you have alot of cash to spend or u can call it revenge(if he playing a fool behind your back) like what u said in ur previous post.What if 10 years later he say bye bye to you ?

By the time, you are old and divorce.So what could you do ?
Start from ZERO with the age of 35 or 40?

I agree that poor man is not saint...some poor man doesnt fool aound outside be cause they CANT not they DONT WANT...

Of cause poor man can be unloyal.But which 1 have a higher risk ?
the poor or the rich ?

Why not choose the poor but he love you ?The chances for him to leave you in future is lower right ?

Does this secure u more ?

Why not choose the poor but he love you ?The chances for him to leave you in future is lower right ?

Does this secure u more ?

Moorish i agreed with you girl money minded its ok.And i also can understand why you would prefer to choose richer man to be your husband.

From what i read from page 1~12 i can see that u are a girl that have prepared to have a husband that might be unloyal to you.

But there is another reality in this world...High risk high return...

If u marry a rich man, yes you have alot of cash to spend or u can call it revenge(if he playing a fool behind your back) like what u said in ur previous post.What if 10 years later he say bye bye to you ?

By the time, you are old and divorce.So what could you do ?
Start from ZERO with the age of 35 or 40?

I agree that poor man is not saint...some poor man doesnt fool aound outside be cause they CANT not they DONT WANT...

Of cause poor man can be unloyal.But which 1 have a higher risk ?
the poor or the rich ?

Why not choose the poor but he love you ?The chances for him to leave you in future is lower right ?

Does this secure u more ?

Every single girl dream their husband will be rich one day, how rich is up to individuals taste or appetite. So if that really happen (20% chance of rags to riches case) the guy would turn womanizer as what everyone agrees that rich man will have mistress or worse you share the hardworking part and he share the wealth part with another woman who aims at rich dude.

BTW you guys keep saying the rich man will leave me one day, you guys know any divorce lawyer? try asking him the majority of his client are rich people or working class, what are the odds of working class marriage end up in divorce case as compared to the rich?

I prefer to choose A bcoz
1.Its easier when someone loves you more than you love that person

2.If somehow later he cheats, its not so hurting as if I choose B the person I love and struggle wit,
80% chance we will suffer for life, chances might still be later he still cheat on me which will be 1000X more hurting. Dun forget financial strain can really breaks a marriage equally as a rich husband fooling part.

3. Tho I'm not really in love wit A, but I strongly believe with all the gifts, he'll manage to melt my heart eventually, olden days people can have fix marriage and still yield successful result.

From the topic http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/967243 it made me think deep why are girl money minded.

Thousands of years ago, money do not exist, girl will choose their partner base on security, they look for well built male who can protect them from wild animals and wild man or whatever wild things,they're vulnerable when they;re pregnant, and the years when they need to raise children. This has been genetic in female.

Fast forward to today, we no longer require mr. muscle to protect us, security took a new meaning, security = money. So girl will marry a guy when he is rich and this is why the quote ada wang ada amoi.

So girls, be proud when you choose a rich husband, and to those girl who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the mother instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

ask your self this...what is the odd of a normal RM3000/mth salary guy at hitting on a super sexy chick?

Every single girl dream their husband will be rich one day, how rich is up to individuals taste or appetite. So if that really happen (20% chance of rags to riches case) the guy would turn womanizer as what everyone agrees that rich man will have mistress or worse you share the hardworking part and he share the wealth part with another woman who aims at rich dude.

BTW you guys keep saying the rich man will leave me one day, you guys know any divorce lawyer? try asking him the majority of his client are rich people or working class, what are the odds of working class marriage end up in divorce case as compared to the rich?

I prefer to choose A bcoz
1.Its easier when someone loves you more than you love that person

2.If somehow later he cheats, its not so hurting as if I choose B the person I love and struggle wit,
80% chance we will suffer for life, chances might still be later he still cheat on me which will be 1000X more hurting. Dun forget financial strain can really breaks a marriage equally as a rich husband fooling part.

3. Tho I'm not really in love wit A, but I strongly believe with all the gifts, he'll manage to melt my heart eventually, olden days people can have fix marriage and still yield successful result.

I bet to differ. I do not agree with your statement. You got to understand that not all girls are the same. I believe true love conquers all.

And for sure, when you choose a rich husband, don't you think the rich husband will be choosy too?

There are pretty ladies out there by 3/1 male dominant. Why they choose you who are only average looking girl?

Think twice before you said this out loud.

Like you choose rich husband, but the rich husband may choose prettier wife or make you just their toys for lust.

moorish : rich man only few.. and girls got many. how the all girls able to choose rich man?

Every single girl dream their husband will be rich one day, how rich is up to individuals taste or appetite. So if that really happen (20% chance of rags to riches case) the guy would turn womanizer as what everyone agrees that rich man will have mistress or worse you share the hardworking part and he share the wealth part with another woman who aims at rich dude.

BTW you guys keep saying the rich man will leave me one day, you guys know any divorce lawyer? try asking him the majority of his client are rich people or working class, what are the odds of working class marriage end up in divorce case as compared to the rich?

I prefer to choose A bcoz
1.Its easier when someone loves you more than you love that person

2.If somehow later he cheats, its not so hurting as if I choose B the person I love and struggle wit,
80% chance we will suffer for life, chances might still be later he still cheat on me which will be 1000X more hurting. Dun forget financial strain can really breaks a marriage equally as a rich husband fooling part.

3. Tho I'm not really in love wit A, but I strongly believe with all the gifts, he'll manage to melt my heart eventually, olden days people can have fix marriage and still yield successful result.

Moorish, u wanna go out on a date with me?
I have money.