QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 9 2009, 08:33 PM)
thats your best come back line? you couldve at least say you agree or not agree.
QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 10 2009, 11:30 AM)
You think you are old enough to understand the real world? You are just 28.
And don’t look down at guys in CC. You didn’t even know their background. I’ve met many, what can I say, I believe some are even richer than your husband.
And don’t look down at guys in CC. You didn’t even know their background. I’ve met many, what can I say, I believe some are even richer than your husband.
Dun look dont on guys at CC?
Theyre guys that doesnt respect or lesser respect for fulltime mom
there guys who label full time mom as prostitute, leecher, shamelessly asking money from husband.
Are these respectable guys to be champion?
or post is simply to "loh fab goh mei choy"? means winning the last consolation comeback line?
I think I can guarantee you is my life experience is far more richer than most of you.
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 10 2009, 11:31 AM)
Sorry to say this,debbie,from your post above,you arent any different from moonrish now.
How about modern day women who works and strive hard to have a secure future for herself or with her other half? Do you just expects that all women should find a rich husband and marry him to be a full time housewife? At the same time,giving up all her achievements in the work force for a family. I dont see why one should do that.
This is the 21st century,not back in the 1950s where women do not work at all which is completely different from now, where women works and some of the time,achieves better than men.
I believe in gender equality and the freedom of choice,than men should work and women takes care of the family at home.
How about modern day women who works and strive hard to have a secure future for herself or with her other half? Do you just expects that all women should find a rich husband and marry him to be a full time housewife? At the same time,giving up all her achievements in the work force for a family. I dont see why one should do that.
This is the 21st century,not back in the 1950s where women do not work at all which is completely different from now, where women works and some of the time,achieves better than men.
I believe in gender equality and the freedom of choice,than men should work and women takes care of the family at home.
First of all this is never about woman not working after married,
its about the husband expect and demand the wife to work,
then also expect the wife to play mother and also chip in on finacial.
You could've at least admit, money is difficult to find, if get a wife willing or able to help out then yu're greatful.
QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Oct 10 2009, 11:36 AM)
Another interesting aspect to debate:
Thats why I say such a heavy word to use...soulmate
and that is why I ask what if the soul mate is a bum?
Do we go on believing in the name of love and marry him and have children and then children all end up no education or mat rempit?
Or do we follow my concept and find a man we love lesser but can provide security and comfortable life for our children, interesting angle.
Lets debate on this and see where it goes.
Added on October 10, 2009, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 10 2009, 11:53 AM)
I don't define it by a quantifiable figure. You should know by now that in my arguments I never use tangible figures because I don't believe in looking at a bunch of numbers when you pick someone. "Rich" can be misleading because it's obvious from these discussions that people have different definitions. The most common indicating that one is upper class.
And that is why you shouldnt attack on the rich part, because neither you nor I can put an exact figure on what is call rich. So you should just let it be.
To very poor people, 5k is super rich, another famous word would be "fatt tatt"
to a millionaire 5k salary he would die and its extreme poverty.
Added on October 10, 2009, 11:57 am
Well we don't live in an ideal world. Unlike "fortunate" women like you, many other women work to help provide the best for their kids. Nurturing a kid is one thing, but then you have to consider education. Which parent would not want to send their kids to the best schools.
Seriously I intend to send Noreen to normal chinese school, no need private or internation school, sekolah kebangsaan would be my choice. Reason is I want her to be down to earth, to see and feel the normal peoples life like what I've been thru, this way I believe she would grow to be a better person.
You say it's proven. Well I'm not going to ask for facts because all I know is a lot of people I know, myself included were raised by working parents and I turned out alright. In fact, we all turned out alright. Some of our mothers are single and stay with us. We have good jobs, and are comfortable. How much better could we turn out? I don't know but I'm happy with the way I was brought up.
It is proven trust me, coz recently I've read books on nurturing children and read the same fact from 3 very famous Doc, Gleen Doman and Janet Doman, and another book by Dr. Portman.
About turning out alright, then S26 and breast milk baby also can grow up and become doctor, why bother with breast milk?
It is however proven breastmilk give higher IQ and less health problem because they contain antibodi.
Added on October 10, 2009, 12:00 pm
God do you realise how shallow you sound? You have to work because men are defective?
Well then women only have themselves to blame for not being able to fend for themselves isn't it? Geeze I actually took some of your viewpoints seriously until you said this. Good luck living in your medieval world. I hope for your sake, you never have to fend for yourself.
And that is why you shouldnt attack on the rich part, because neither you nor I can put an exact figure on what is call rich. So you should just let it be.
To very poor people, 5k is super rich, another famous word would be "fatt tatt"
to a millionaire 5k salary he would die and its extreme poverty.
Added on October 10, 2009, 11:57 am
Well we don't live in an ideal world. Unlike "fortunate" women like you, many other women work to help provide the best for their kids. Nurturing a kid is one thing, but then you have to consider education. Which parent would not want to send their kids to the best schools.
Seriously I intend to send Noreen to normal chinese school, no need private or internation school, sekolah kebangsaan would be my choice. Reason is I want her to be down to earth, to see and feel the normal peoples life like what I've been thru, this way I believe she would grow to be a better person.
You say it's proven. Well I'm not going to ask for facts because all I know is a lot of people I know, myself included were raised by working parents and I turned out alright. In fact, we all turned out alright. Some of our mothers are single and stay with us. We have good jobs, and are comfortable. How much better could we turn out? I don't know but I'm happy with the way I was brought up.
It is proven trust me, coz recently I've read books on nurturing children and read the same fact from 3 very famous Doc, Gleen Doman and Janet Doman, and another book by Dr. Portman.
About turning out alright, then S26 and breast milk baby also can grow up and become doctor, why bother with breast milk?
It is however proven breastmilk give higher IQ and less health problem because they contain antibodi.
Added on October 10, 2009, 12:00 pm
God do you realise how shallow you sound? You have to work because men are defective?
Well then women only have themselves to blame for not being able to fend for themselves isn't it? Geeze I actually took some of your viewpoints seriously until you said this. Good luck living in your medieval world. I hope for your sake, you never have to fend for yourself.
Maybe you dun come from a female point of view, like I say if you talk to girls, and when they're comfortable then start questioning them, why a career or a skill work for the less fortunate, which my mom also ask me to learn like hairstylist or cooking, she always say at least anything happen to, like your man leave, you and baby you wont become hungry. This has been program and buried deep into chinese girls mentality.
Maybe some girls wont admit this, just like they want a rich husband but deny they went for teh guy part of the reason is he is rich.
QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 10 2009, 12:01 PM)
DEFINITION OF RICH: You keep spending your money but your money just won't finish. Poof. Gone. Now THATS rich.
Well I believe everyone spend money daily then everyone is rich
if everyday I buy keropok lekur, then I can probably last a few hundred years
If everyday I buy BMW wonder how many days I can last.
Added on October 10, 2009, 3:09 pm
QUOTE(happy4ever @ Oct 10 2009, 12:14 PM)
In the animal kingdom, male animals will do their best to lure the females. Like birds. The one with the bestest nest wins the female, etc...
in human world, women too chooses the bestest male to mate. But, in humans, things get screwed up, and goes haywire. Thats why animals live in harmony to their ecosystem, but humans will destroy everything they touch. In the human kingdom, the weak survives equally with the strong. So you have weak genes running about.
So one cannot apply animal kingdom rules to human kingdom rules.
Women must know their place. Be submissive and feed the family & work WHILE taking care of it (ie cooking, washing cleaning etc). Husbands just relax in front of TV and read newspaper.
Thats all folks
I tot last time those chauvinistic males famous line was back to the kitchen?in human world, women too chooses the bestest male to mate. But, in humans, things get screwed up, and goes haywire. Thats why animals live in harmony to their ecosystem, but humans will destroy everything they touch. In the human kingdom, the weak survives equally with the strong. So you have weak genes running about.
So one cannot apply animal kingdom rules to human kingdom rules.
Women must know their place. Be submissive and feed the family & work WHILE taking care of it (ie cooking, washing cleaning etc). Husbands just relax in front of TV and read newspaper.
Thats all folks
Now they realize they've to pay more and suddenly change tag?
This post has been edited by moorish: Oct 10 2009, 03:19 PM
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