From this topic I can tell that 90% of the posters have not been in a long term relationship before. Long term as defined over a period of at least 1.5 years.

yup, you know how the real world is coz you personally have divorcee frens, but these kids still in fantasy land.

I'm not implying every female should be like this, I'm saying if female put security as high assessment on thier would be husband, there is nothing wrong with the decision (provided they qualify with a rich guy hot on their trail).

Same like if you're guy and there r 2 woman crazily in love wit you, 1 wild super sexy and beautiful, another just normal ah lian but very religious, there is nothing wrong if you choose beauty over character.

my long term would be over 5 years, this is when love starts to cool down and reality kicks in, this is when finance plays a part in the rship.

I believe such statements truly define by the experience you felt and been into. It varies from people to people. From my point of view, it depends on how guys define sex. Each of us has our own definition of pleasures. You and i know it. And please define what you meant by opportunity. Its broadly define especially when it comes to secularism.



Not that i against this statement but as a sort of encouragement, just HUNT the damn chick and use your own intelligence to optimize your talents to try and score the winning goal to her heart. Now this is reality. To try, its of course much better then to not try when comes to introducing yourself to a woman.

Your statement isn't wrong, but its likely to induce people to stop trying. Results after all depends on each possible action we made. The reason why people fail to get the girl that believe its attractive to their eyes is because of their expectation they made from their own faulty actions be it consciously and subconsciously. Some are certain with their moves and some are not. The level of certainty varies through every thoughts we process in our brains hence the birth of competitive advantage comparatively to other men, through the process of creation. Now this is absolute truth.

That's why you see some guys though they are fugly, but they are charming as hell and talk smoothly. And some knows what mostly women want and need to offset their other bad quality. Note here, i don't use MOST like you did, because i know my statement does not represent the whole male population. Which is why 'SOME' is much more profound and 'interesting' in a way.

On the good side, every faulty actions pays a good price towards experience provided optimism is being held firmly in them which i rarely see in this society.

You want to define reality in a context of argument. Just effing try your best and hunt the chick. If they phailed badly, let them come to CC, let us hear their cries and help them. Advices and listening after all cost lest than 2 cents



And it's wrong? It's wrong to induce ourselves to feel good about ourselves? No it isn't, but its wrong to foolishly not willing to admit the lost that we made. I guess you forgot to wrote down the admittance part which i find it very important to put into context. Egoism shuns away from admittance. Lack of proper guidance is the reason why.



How do you define truth? Is it a part of reality? Is it always meant to be cold blooded? Is it always have to be harsh, so people can actually learn and grow from the excruciating past and pain? Or is it because of the small little step that we make each day both consciously and subconsciously? You do know the possibility that each of us has, which is simple. Be it positive and negative. Let's don't talk about the grey area as it will tangled our minds bashing each other trying to convince who is truer than the other but at the end of the day, we're the fools out of it. You care for your own interest, i care for mine. Its how i arouse your interest that matters to you.

Its easy to pinpoint on other things than to pinpoint your faulty & flawed actions and decision. Not to mention how we are capable enough to persuade other human beings by affecting them with our own experiences through communications for example. That's the scary part, the way we affect and influence others.

And if you believe that we men are the creature of circumstances, good luck to you. But i strongly believe that circumstances are our own creature. They depend on us.

This post has been edited by peinsama: Mar 23 2009, 10:38 AM

If like that, mind to explain why most of rich wife (especially datin) they got bela few young naughty guys to have sex? If they really love their husband, why do they still choose to play with other guys? From my opinion, they not love their husband. They choose to married with their husband just because of those rich guys can provide them very good financial security.

I don’t believe you never heard about this before, except if you still study in secondary.

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Mar 23 2009, 11:17 AM

Don't have to buy love. I'm happy with a wife.

her husband play around she still have a datin title under her belt and tons of money to splash around.

If you marry a poor dude and all your hope is on his misearable EPF, then one day when its time to take the loot opps the retired saving you realize he gave the cash to some prc!!!!

I've known plenty of poorer husband still play around, why do all those cheaper karaaoke and chicken farm existing?

money can buy ur a security, but canot asure you a secure family

lolol..
Narrow minded

guess im super lucky.

Super poor with no problem finding girls

nothing can assure a secure family, money is only a complimentary... but no money can lead to family disharmony.

Bull shit. moorish is just another money minded sick gals.

There are still girl out there who prefer loyal poor guy.

Charm is the international currency


*i heard that somewhere lately*

ask your self this...what is the odd of a normal RM3000/mth salary guy at hitting on a super sexy chick?

money is needed no matter how... you can't ditch money for a successful relationship...

Money....the root to all evils??

TS....

lets get into the reality.... yes, security can be measured in any aspect... be it monetary, assets, love, caring, family, career, etc...

but in this now world.... it seem that monetary is being the main measurement tools for marriage / life partner.

yes, i do admit that monetary value does provide securities..... but is monetary value can buy happiness? health? freedom?

i still rekindle my more than 10 years r/s with my first love when i was 15... in which lasted 10 years.... the issue n motive of this story is simple, im just a reverse of the story u posted of the girl.

i had to endure almost 6 years hiding from the knowledge of her parents... as her father is a famous corporate figure n a tan sri title holder...where else, im just a normal not so well being family-borned.

later, when being introduced to her father, thats where the hell starts.... am i able to provide security, caring, shelter family, being a good husband n father, etc etc. this keep pressurized me to keep work hard, even double n sometimes triple employment, just to show monetary securities....

by end of the day... which i didnt regret making the decision (i guess u all readers will read n guess my decision) n i ask myself, am i working hard for myself or just to get monetary securities for my life partner?

till today, i still not regret to make the decision, as i truly believe my family needs me more than anything else.... my dad got into accident half a year ago n totally hadicapped as well as totally lost source of income... being the eldest, i felt the responsibility should shoulder upon on me....

though all this happens, i kept a healthy finance balance... apart from financing my house n cars, i still able to fund my dad treatment n still could afford to keep substantial amount of investment in unit trusts, etc....

i believe this may not related.... but what would i want to point out is... though with hard life, u still make yr life meaningful, as long as fair amount of hard work... positive attitude and smart thinking.... whenever the challanges thrown to u, u would able to survive w/o monetary securities... though i felt tired, weak, no social-life, not many friends... i feel grateful that i try hard to pay my responsibility back to my parents... n i had answer to questions asked when i leave this world...

so, positively... monetary securities is important.... but family n health in which even billions or trillions of monetary securities cant buy... if these could be brought, then it not as same feelings as genuine!

to me... believe yr instincts, u could create a world of your own, if u n yr partner willing to work hard for the good of your future undertakings.

not necessary to get a rich life partner, just for monetary securities, n for the rest of your life being like nothing to do, as monetary had done everything to u... or chose a life in which u n yr life partner work hard for the sake of future undertakings.... n by yr old age, u felt a sense of achievements in which your future generation could boast about....

either decision make... u will get an apple... just the difference is, whether u buy the apple... or u start from planting the apple

cant make all the girls chasing the money either.. because we live in capitalism economy and only handful of people are rich, the rest is average/poor

if all the girls were money minded, then we'll have lots of women not getting married in this world because only handful of rich people available? then human population dwindled? lol

TS, jus out of curiosity? nothing on agreeing or disagreeing on the topic "ada wang ada amoi" i jus wanted to ask u, im sure you would pick the rich guy over the poor person, but wat if someday all the money he has goes down d drain, "bankrupt". wat would u do? run away?

WOW I FEEL VERY INSULTED BY YOUR POSTINGS.

BTW IM A GUY. AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID IN THIS POST POINTS TO ONE CONCLUSION FROM YOUR SIDE.

"MAN CANNOT BE LOYAL TO THEIR SPOUSE" THEREFORE WOMAN SHOULD CHOOSE MONEY FIRST THEN LOVE.

YOUR FORMULA IS FLAWED. IF THAT WERE TRUE THEN OUR SOCIETY WOULD BE BASED ON A POLYGAMY TYPE OF MARRIAGE SOCIETY.

THIS IS NEWS FOR YOU. NOT EVERY MAN WILL JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO BANG A WOMAN.

I AGREE MONEY IS IMPORTANT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT THINK ABOUT THIS! YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD BUT IF U CANT SLEEP WITH THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU EVERY NIGHT THEN HOW DIFFERENT ARE YOU TO THE PROSTITUTE DOWN THE STREET? SAME SHIT DIFFERENT PRICE ONLY.

NOW I THROW THIS BACK AT YOU WOMEN. DONT BULLSHIT US GUYS. SECURITY AND MONEY MEAN THE SAME THING. DONT MASK IT AND CALL IT SECURITY.

I BELIEVE LOVE CONQUERS ALL. IF I LOVE MY SPOUSE, I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE HER HAPPY. FIRST THERE MUST BE LOVE(NOT MONEY). WITH LOVE YOU CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING.

AM I DREAMING? WELL IM GETTING MARRIED THIS JUNE. I AM VERY SURE MY FUTURE WIFE IS MARRYING ME BECAUSE SHE LOVES ME VERY MUCH AND NOT BECAUSE HOW THICK MY WALLET IS. AND IF MY BUSINESS COLLAPSES TOMORROW SHE WILL STILL BE AT MY SIDE SHARING MY TROUBLES.

DONT TALK ABOUT LOVE IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

PS: MY FRIENDS WANT TO ARRANGE A BACHELOR PARTY FOR ME COMPLETE WITH "SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT" ALL FULLY PAID FOR. I HAVE GRACIOUSLY REFUSED INSTEAD OPTING FOR A NICE DINNER AND PLENTY OF BOOZE. I GUESS I DONT FIT YOUR GENETIC MAKE-UP OF A MAN DO I? FREE SEX OFFERED TO ME AND I DIDNT TAKE IT? WOW WHAT HAPPEN TO THE POOR MAN CANT AFFORD TO TWO TIME SO THEY WONT DO IT? BULLSHIT.

Err actually u dont need to be angry or insult....

People who know what is the truth will know what it is,
people who is blinded and treat thing as truth got a chance to know the truth sooner or later,
people who is blinded yet dont want to know the truth is their own decision to lead themselve into infinite arrogance.

TS, so u asking ur bf/gf to be proud when he/she choose another guy that is richer than u as well as ur future mate when they dump u coz of other ppl is richer? How bout giving those people who got dumped bcoz of this a feeling, happy, sad or proud? How bout people who is poor?
May i know did u gone through altruistic thinking before opening this thread?
IF the answer is no, seriously i dont need to care about u, coz i dont bother teaching a baby how to breath.
But if ur anwer is yes, than thats a big problem for the future living being.
Anyhow, from my observation now, i only can say that u had waste quite some time and meaning living even u are 50,60.
I not trying to offend u but in this world think and talk by looking at the very surface of thing never happy and never know whats the truth. Think twice.

well I understand few of you whom are disturb by reality....so start making money or settle for less
you can be pissed...but this is sadly the fact.