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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post May 12 2009, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ May 12 2009, 12:51 PM)
That may be your opinion, but I'm with Hawkie on this. I personally know of a couple whom started out living in squatter houses, who now are decent off. They married young after coming back from university. Early day's of marriage life, after paying rent for their house, they didn't even have money to purchase furniture for it. Food? Bread for at least one meal a day.

Money is everything? In their 30+ years of marriage, not once have they quarreled (if any at all) about money.

I say it is more the individual, how much importance each individual places on materials be it certain lifestyle or certain objects, how this said individual perceives their status and self-worth. There are people that draw self-worth and status from things
When you take away these things, suddenly there is a huge gap and they feel left out, social outcast, the misfit.

These are the people that quite likely will say, "I need xxx amount of money in order to be happy"
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This is relative to where you live. I mean if you're an eskimo living in the North Pole, money isn't exactly a priority. However if you live in a bustling city, the same cannot be said.
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post May 12 2009, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ May 12 2009, 12:51 PM)
That may be your opinion, but I'm with Hawkie on this. I personally know of a couple whom started out living in squatter houses, who now are decent off. They married young after coming back from university. Early day's of marriage life, after paying rent for their house, they didn't even have money to purchase furniture for it. Food? Bread for at least one meal a day.

Money is everything? In their 30+ years of marriage, not once have they quarreled (if any at all) about money.

I say it is more the individual, how much importance each individual places on materials be it certain lifestyle or certain objects, how this said individual perceives their status and self-worth. There are people that draw self-worth and status from things
When you take away these things, suddenly there is a huge gap and they feel left out, social outcast, the misfit.

These are the people that quite likely will say, "I need xxx amount of money in order to be happy"

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fully agree, however I've never ever mention to marry a rich husband so we can buy LV bags and drive BMW, I was stressing on the point of security, you know where you;re heading and you know your children would live comfortably, not luxury which I do not believe in training my kids to be, but comfortable where we dun worry about whats for dinner tomoro.



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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 02:04 PM)
fully agree, however I've never ever mention to marry a rich husband so we can buy LV bags and drive BMW, I was stressing on the point of security, you know where you;re heading and you know your children would live comfortably, not luxury which I do not believe in training my kids to be, but comfortable where we dun worry about whats for dinner tomoro.
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This is the point that most men miss out on. They think it's ok to get into the car, with no map or idea where to go. Well, it's not. Life should be like planning a trip. You need to know where you are, where you're going to go and more importantly how you're going to get there. Yes, she needs to know it as well.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 12 2009, 01:50 PM)
This is relative to where you live. I mean if you're an eskimo living in the North Pole, money isn't exactly a priority. However if you live in a bustling city, the same cannot be said.
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Whoa, whoa easy now. I didn't mean to say we don't need any money at all. I quite a realistic person. I agree, food needs to be put on the table, roof needs to be put over the head and clothes on the back. I'm more taking a lifestyle point of view.

Fine dining versus normal restaurant
standard sedan car versus continental car
periodic holidays versus kid's education fund
a pair of shoes costing RM 950 versus RM 150
a bag costing 875 versus 200
Oshkosh or Baby Guess versus morning market/night market baby clothes
baby stroller RM 1200 Mc Laren versus carrying


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post May 12 2009, 03:35 PM

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There is another concern: that due to ever increasing levels of inflation and the specialisation of jobs, social mobility today is a lot less than it used to be.

May it be a legitimate concern that those who find themselves in the "middle" or lower income bracket have a higher chance of slipping down than rising up (using real income as a comparison), all options considered?

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: May 12 2009, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ May 12 2009, 03:35 PM)
There is another concern: that due to ever increasing levels of inflation and the specialisation of jobs, social mobility today is a lot less than it used to be.

May it be a legitimate concern that those who find themselves in the "middle" or lower income bracket have a higher chance of slipping down than rising up (using real income as a comparison), all options considered?
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This is true. As we head towards a more egalitarian society, some people are left behind.... And those that had progressed to the middle and lower-middle classes feel that their progress has stagnated.

At the end of the day, the purchasing power parity adjusted income of malaysians is roughly a third that of developed nations - alot better than we were just 30 years ago... but nothing spectacular considering the vast natural resources malaysia was blessed with - though it could be argued that an influx of wealth corrupts and is more of a curse than a blessing.


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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 02:04 PM)
fully agree, however I've never ever mention to marry a rich husband so we can buy LV bags and drive BMW, I was stressing on the point of security, you know where you;re heading and you know your children would live comfortably, not luxury which I do not believe in training my kids to be, but comfortable where we dun worry about whats for dinner tomoro.
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so basically you're saying that girls dont want to make babies with guys who are not good providers smile.gif

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ May 12 2009, 05:14 PM)

so basically you're saying that girls dont want to make babies with guys who are not good providers smile.gif
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different ppl different standard la, I may consider my husband as rich but some of my gf will just snub at him, coz they're eyeing for the new C-class.

Some ppl would be happy if hubby buys them a MYVI (me blush.gif )
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post May 12 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ May 12 2009, 05:14 PM)


Added on May 12, 2009, 5:15 pm
so basically you're saying that girls dont want to make babies with guys who are not good providers smile.gif
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 05:31 PM)
different ppl different standard la, I may consider my husband as rich but some of my gf will just snub at him, coz they're eyeing for the new C-class.

Some ppl would be happy if hubby buys them a MYVI (me blush.gif )
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I'm mulling on those two points. Both IMHO hold water. I can see moorish's point in the light of the maternal instinct that women have. Am I far off to say that a woman would only think of bringing a child into this world once she is fully contended that her family will be enough to provide for this child until this child is able to fully stand on his/her own feet? (not walking, but in a independent way)

And again, the old dead horse, different women have different yardsticks of 'provision' (Let's not go there, let the horse rest in pieces)
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QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ May 12 2009, 05:45 PM)
I'm mulling on those two points. Both IMHO hold water. I can see moorish's point in the light of the maternal instinct that women have. Am I far off to say that a woman would only think of bringing a child into this world once she is fully contended that her family will be enough to provide for this child until this child is able to fully stand on his/her own feet? (not walking, but in a independent way)

And again, the old dead horse, different women have different yardsticks of 'provision' (Let's not go there, let the horse rest in pieces)
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I would say those who do planning - YES
Some no need planning wan, hence as I mention in page one they've not woke up yet, thats why they believe with love just drink plain water they will not be hungry.
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 05:31 PM)
different ppl different standard la, I may consider my husband as rich but some of my gf will just snub at him, coz they're eyeing for the new C-class.

Some ppl would be happy if hubby buys them a MYVI (me blush.gif )
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lol. so true.

I guess everyone has a different standard that they are willing to settle for.
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 05:53 PM)
I would say those who do planning - YES
Some no need planning wan, hence as I mention in page one they've not woke up yet, thats why they believe with love just drink plain water they will not be hungry.
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in the manga - zetman, a scientist was able to achieve that, survive by drinking water only.

planning memang essential lo.

habit #2 of the 7 habits of highly effect people / teens - begin with an end in mind rclxms.gif
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I prefer ladies with great flexibility when it comes to money. Able to adjust her behavior (Ie SPENDING) as according to financial situation of her spouse(husband). So far, i have no luck of finding such a lady for companionship though i consider myself financially capable and not ugly. rclxm9.gif No problem, I will spend my money "elsewhere" and stay happy forever. Maybe, I will go look for Vietnamese Moui or Thai moui as wife when the time comes... biggrin.gif

To those who are married to a "rich" husband, What would you do if your husband go broke suddenly because of unforeseen circumtances ( iE Financial meltdown, Hyperinflation, War and etc )? Hmmm ?


http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html
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US Divorce Rate -
"About 50% of first marriages for men under age 45 may end in
divorce, and between 44 and 52% of women's first marriages
may end in divorce for these age groups




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A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband. A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Married men live longer than single men, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
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A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
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Yeah US got too many divorce compare to other part of the world. Capitalism is taking toll there smile.gif
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i know woman will get insecure with husband that is not stable , but must woman nid to get a husband to be secure ?
cant they be secure by their own means ?
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ May 12 2009, 07:52 PM)
Yeah US got too many divorce compare to other part of the world. Capitalism is taking toll there smile.gif
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More like Creditalism to me. They bought large house and car on "credit" instead of "capital" (to provide fake security to their lady who feels entitled to it) and the entire family goes bust when the economy tanks. Are we seeing something quite similar in Asia ? I don't know man u be the judge.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/china-hou...ces-could-halve

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Cao Jianhai, a professor at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Financial Times newspaper that the current rebound in the property market was unsustainable and driven by a flood of liquidity and fraudulent activity rather than real demand.

He was cited as saying urban residential property prices would decline by 40% to 50% in the next two years from their levels at the end of 2008. However, he added that housing prices may not fall in the near term, but rather were likely to collapse next year, followed by many years of stagnation.

Recently government investigations had turned up examples of fraud, including developers using fake mortgages to offload apartments onto the books of state-run banks.


Extreme Chivalrism and extreme feminism are to be blamed. Everyone wants a life of king and queen but can't afford it.

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 05:31 PM)
different ppl different standard la, I may consider my husband as rich but some of my gf will just snub at him, coz they're eyeing for the new C-class.

Some ppl would be happy if hubby buys them a MYVI (me blush.gif )
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You only drive a mivy?? and all along i thought u were some hotshot siu lailai driving minimum a volvo....
guess u're not that money faced afterall. nod.gif
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I think this video is relevant to this thread laugh.gif

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That's good. So Shanghai men have no testicles to speak of and will do anything for *****?

I will enjoy punking them too, just because they're such sissy little b****es.
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QUOTE(Malefic @ May 13 2009, 06:39 PM)
I think this video is relevant to this thread  laugh.gif
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That video is made of epic LOL and ROFL. laugh.gif

Proof once again that Chinese are the most materialistic race on the planet.




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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 13 2009, 07:00 PM)
That video is made of epic LOL and ROFL.  laugh.gif

Proof once again that Chinese are the most materialistic race on the planet.
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And the men, the most pathetic?

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