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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post May 10 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ May 10 2009, 08:15 PM)
I read somewhere that girls make up/dress up not for the guys, they actually do it to be competitive in the presense of other girls in a social fucntion.
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i do second this. even tho i dress up mainly for my guy when we go out, when he's not around(for instance, college), i tend to dress because i do not wanna look bad in other girls' presence(exception when i am feeling very moodless, thus dress uber down tongue.gif ).
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post May 11 2009, 03:27 AM

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Added on May 7, 2009, 11:18 am

Again with the misconceptions.

Do you really think poor guys don't deserve love? (Let's not even talk about 'stingy', that's not even relevant.) And do you really think money is so easy to find? There are people out there trapped in a never-ending cycle of poverty - things like house and car that you take for granted, they're far beyond the reach of these people. Are you so inconsiderate, so insensitive, so lacking in empathy, that all you can say to them is "wake up and find more money"?

Money = Quality? I show you Guy A, who works as a car workshop mechanic, earns about RM2k a month, saving up as much as he can every month so he can buy a partnership share in his workshop. Now I give you Guy B, son of a rich timber tycoon, lives in a penthouse apartment and drives an imported sports car, has never held a job for longer than 6 months, and is now just bumming around until his father scolds him again for the umpteenth time to get a job.

Is Guy B a better person than Guy A? In every way? Really??

Okay, I admit, I'm throwing out straw men too. Not every rich guy is a spoiled slacker like Guy B. But the difference here is character. Is that not more important than money, in judging a person? If I had just said Guy A is a kind and decent man, Guy B is a spoiled and arrogant jerk, then asked you who is a better person - do you really need to know who has more money before you can answer that question?

I'm not saying money is not important. You're saying that money is the most important. You're wrong. You could not be more wrong.
I have a cousin. Smartest and most successful amongst his siblings. Worked in the oil business, conducted multi-million dollar deals, had a beautiful wife and son. Then one day he was arrested by the FBI in the States, on suspicion of having ties to terrorists, because of his business contacts in the Middle East. He was in jail for a couple of years while his case dragged on. His wife divorced him and took his son away. He was finally released, and right now he's trying to rebuild his business, and has since married a divorcee with a son of her own.

If you think money lasts longer than love... you're just flat-out wrong.
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Okay.

Guy A, 2K/month saving as much as he can to buy a partnership share in workshop. (Very DECENT Man)
Guy B, Penthouse, Sports Car, Spoiled Jerk, In short he is an AshH0le. (He SARK)

Guy B is definately a better and decent man nomatter how you compare.

BUT,

Guy A - Saving and saving, how long to afford the partnership share ? How long to buy a house ? and how long to get married ?
We are talking about girls here, they dont wait long. Unless you find a really good one who can wait until 30/40.
And i assume he is too busy to work, no extra money, minimum entertainment and time for his GF ! ( u're an ashhole all you can think is bed, they need more )
Can we eat a decent man ? NO, we cant !
Before you have reach your goal, your gf might already married to someone else ! And you might never reach your boss making process as your cash are so limited.

Guy B - Yes he sark, but think wisely, he got pent houses, sport car, money and a rich father !
He is such a jerk, but doesnt meant he doesnt love and cherish his wife. She will lead a good life.
Why you think he is such a jerk, it's because his father is rich. If he can live like that, I dont even think you need to worry about him.
His beloved father must have already planned for his son. (I got this kind of friend !) Even if his father did not, I guess you should look at their saving !
++ He is only not working coz he got loads of money ! Why u called him JERK ? He dont even kill, rape or rob ! Who says a spoiled child dont love their parents and family ?

Guy C - Why take for granted ? Funny ! I assume you aimed solely on those rich and spoiled brats.
Dont you know there's peoples out there who are more successful and rich than others, and they work for they houses and cars all by themselves ?
Why you need a GUY A if there is a GUY C for you ?

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Back to your cousin, why you think his wife left him ?
Look at all the thread above ! It links everything.
Why a smart person like him took the wrong step ?
If I'm his wife I'll do the samething ! Oh, your husband in jail ? ( I cant even accept that )

Wake up guys.
I'm in more/less Guy A condition, but i still can think like this.

This post has been edited by dvinez: May 11 2009, 03:41 AM
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post May 11 2009, 08:10 AM

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money money money......all girls like?
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post May 11 2009, 08:10 AM

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of cos all gals like lah.
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post May 11 2009, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 10 2009, 08:07 PM)
hatever happened to making yourself look good so that you feel good about yourself? Is attracting men the only reason? I exercise, because being healthy gives me confidence and self-assurance. If a girl finds me attractive because of that, that's just a bonus - it is not the end to which exercising is the means. Same reason why I dress well, wear deodorant, comb my hair every morning - or, for that matter, why I work hard at my job.
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Make up is not like exercise, make up you can do it ad-hoc basis.
Anyway if I go out on a date you can say I dress up to impress "him"
If I go to work, I dress up for my self confidence.
If I go shopping, I dress up for the fun of it.
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post May 11 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ May 11 2009, 03:27 AM)
Guy B - Yes he sark, but think wisely, he got pent houses, sport car, money and a rich father !
He is such a jerk, but doesnt meant he doesnt love and cherish his wife. She will lead a good life.
Why you think he is such a jerk, it's because his father is rich. If he can live like that, I dont even think you need to worry about him.
His beloved father must have already planned for his son. (I got this kind of friend !) Even if his father did not, I guess you should look at their saving !
++ He is only not working coz he got loads of money ! Why u called him JERK ? He dont even kill, rape or rob ! Who says a spoiled child dont love their parents and family ?
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Talk about missing the point.

Why are you defending Guy B? He is a hypothetical construct, he doesn't exist. He's a jerk because I created him that way, to compare him to Guy A who isn't a jerk. The question I asked is, who's the better man, a rich jerk or a poor but decent guy?

The fact that you answered "The rich jerk, but he's not really a jerk!" isn't only missing the point, it says a lot about your values.

QUOTE(dvinez @ May 11 2009, 03:27 AM)
Back to your cousin, why you think his wife left him ?
Look at all the thread above ! It links everything.
Why a smart person like him took the wrong step ?
If I'm his wife I'll do the samething ! Oh, your husband in jail ? ( I cant even accept that )
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I have no intention of passing judgment on my cousin's (ex)wife for divorcing him. I can never understand what she went through. I told this story to make the point that money doesn't last - even smart and successful people make mistakes, and misfortune can strike even those who don't make mistakes. It could happen to you, Mr. Links Everything - and when it does, you'll be praying that love is stronger than money.

I can only hope you're a callow kid no older than 22, so that you still have some growing up to do. If you're not - well, then I hope you find exactly the kind of woman for you.



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QUOTE(moorish @ May 11 2009, 09:09 AM)
Make up is not like exercise, make up you can do it ad-hoc basis.
Anyway if I go out on a date you can say I dress up to impress "him"
If I go to work, I dress up for my self confidence.
If I go shopping, I dress up for the fun of it.

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sure or not 1st?
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post May 11 2009, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 11 2009, 10:36 AM)
sure or not 1st?
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of coz la, there r no specific target, I want to look presentable to everybody male or female.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Mar 18 2009, 06:23 PM)
From the topic http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/967243 it made me think deep why are girl money minded.

Thousands of years ago, money do not exist, girl will choose their partner base on security, they look for well built male who can protect them from wild animals and wild man or whatever wild things,they're vulnerable when they;re pregnant, and the years when they need to raise children. This has been genetic in female.

Fast forward to today, we no longer require mr. muscle to protect us, security took a new meaning, security = money. So girl will marry a guy when he is rich and this is why the quote ada wang ada amoi.

So girls, be proud when you choose a rich husband, and to those girl who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the mother instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.
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Don't blame girls, blame economics. Fact is that unlike in the past, we can't go around living for free in caves. The harsh reality of life is that we do need money for good, shelter and to provide a good education for our kids so that they in turn, will be able to start and look after their own families some time down the road.

Sure, some women are just into the money but you'll realise that they make up only a small proportion of the total female population. Most women or ok if you are just an average guy so long as you have direction in life. Having a goal in life gives a girl the security that she needs, knowing that you are striving to provide the family you've started a better life. I don't see anything wrong in that? In fact, I'd encourage a girl to leave her guy if he doesn't act like a man.
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post May 11 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 11 2009, 11:05 AM)
of coz la, there r no specific target, I want to look presentable to everybody male or female.
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oh ok! but ru a money minded person? tongue.gif
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post May 11 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 11 2009, 11:52 AM)
oh ok! but ru a money minded person? tongue.gif
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depend on which angle you;re looking
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 11 2009, 12:07 PM)
depend on which angle you;re looking
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I nvr meet u b4....therefore I can't judge it lor...

but I can say tat,..there is no gals can lie/cheat on me! No matter how pretty or beautiful they are!
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post May 11 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 11 2009, 12:12 PM)
I nvr meet u b4....therefore I can't judge it lor...

but I can say tat,..there is no gals can lie/cheat on me! No matter how pretty or beautiful they are!
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People who say this are the ones who tend to get cheated
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 11 2009, 12:20 PM)
People who say this are the ones who tend to get cheated
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haha! I met a lot of them...none of them can so far...even those PRC gals who wanna try to hipnosis on me!
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post May 11 2009, 08:29 PM

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This thread is an affront and a total insult to the hard-working and independent modern woman who makes her own keep.

I have two grown-up daughters and my advice to them is to self-reliant and not depend on anyone as they are educated (up to tertiary level). They are certainly level-headed enough not to rely or leech off their boyfriends.
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post May 11 2009, 09:39 PM

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True, what I learn = Money isn't everything, love is.

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post May 11 2009, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 11 2009, 12:24 PM)
haha! I met a lot of them...none of them can so far...even those PRC gals who wanna try to hipnosis on me!
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i dun belif!
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post May 12 2009, 09:51 AM

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For those who insist you can go with just love all the way...this is 2 very good example of real life veyr close to you

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1026914
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1021736 (ok this one could be a joke, but nontheless this is very real in real life scenerio)
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post May 12 2009, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 11 2009, 08:29 PM)
This thread is an affront and a total insult to the hard-working and independent modern woman who makes her own keep. 

I have two grown-up daughters and my advice to them is to self-reliant and not depend on anyone as they are educated (up to tertiary level).  They are certainly level-headed enough not to rely or leech off their boyfriends.
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Women are indeed more independant these days. Like you I think that the thread title is an inaccurate conclusion. Is isn't about moneym, it's about security and the cold hard fact is that money helps give someone security. Of course there are other contributors like responsibility, maturity and so on. Aren't most men money minded though? If we worked purely for a sense of achievement, why not do it at minimum wage?
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@moorish:
i'd say those are good examples of money > love.

there be no true love in those 2 stories.

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