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yewjhin
post Mar 15 2009, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 15 2009, 01:47 PM)
A PhD with no working experience - well, don't expect too much to begin with.

In fact, a PhD could count against you. In the non-academic field, you may be excluded from the job shortlist unless the company is specifically looking for candidates with higher degrees.

Considering where your degree is from, and assuming you qualify to work there, I would get some work experience there first. The money thing comes later.

Not to mention that other countries you are interested in are not necessarily interested in giving you a work permit.

Keeping your expenses to NZ$700 per month is quite an achievement. However, you may think differently when you start working. smile.gif
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The highlighted part in red is VERY TRUE. Your PhD only counts when you're looking for a academic role or research role whether it be in companies (eg: pharmaceutical research) or institutions.

In fact, at the age of 29, most other degree holders will have around 4-7 years exp (those who graduated at age 22-25), which is far more valuable than anything else.

I assume you have no working experience, but if you do, I also assume it is very little as compared to degree holders at your age. Therefore you are not only competing with the locals of the country of which you are already at an disadvantage, you are lacking the necessary experience and hands-on knowledge in whatever industry you desire to be in, excluding research, experimental and academic work or otherwise of course.

Don't forget that work permits for experienced roles/jobs are harder to obtain overseas particularly in the UK unless you're a PR (though u shouldnt have a problem getting work as an academician). In fact, even you're given a permit, it is a time limited one. Since the formation of European Union, residents in the Europe are free to work in any country there without the need of a permit, thus saving companies cost and provides many other inherent benefits.

This post has been edited by yewjhin: Mar 15 2009, 02:07 PM
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post Mar 15 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(EasyLife @ Mar 15 2009, 02:10 PM)
I intend to be an academic. I agree with you that working experience is important, but I think it is more important to have valuable experience. It is obviously better to be a DESIGN ENGINEER rather than a SALES ENGINEER.

I worked as design engineer in an MNC in Penang for 1 year. I got first class honour degree from a bolehland Uni, a Masters from National Uni of Singapore (gold medalist for being the best graduate), and PhD from Auckland Uni (NZ govt scholar). I think I'm competetive enough to secure most high end jobs.
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This is very SERIOUS misconception. A Design Engineer is not necessarily better than a Sales Engineer. In fact, Sales Engineer may be earning less basic salary (not including commission), but can you dispute their ability to achieves sales, bring in customers and communicate with clients as well as translating the clients needs into practical solutions?

You can not compare both jobs and say A is better than B because they are different roles and often lead to very contrasting working environments. Whats important is what you learn out of it.

To an employer, your previous job title doesn't impress as much as your ability to showcase your skills gained, which in turn is gained by years of experience.

FYI: I'm a project engineer myself, doing chemical process design.

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post Mar 15 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(EasyLife @ Mar 15 2009, 02:10 PM)
I intend to be an academic. I agree with you that working experience is important, but I think it is more important to have valuable experience. It is obviously better to be a DESIGN ENGINEER rather than a SALES ENGINEER.


QUOTE(EasyLife @ Mar 15 2009, 02:35 PM)
You might be right. As I have said, I am interested in academic field, which I feel that the design experience that I earned was more relevant to research. I somehow do not see how sales engineer is going to help with research, you might need to enlighten me smile.gif
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Well if you read back, u made a statement saying being a Design Engineer is better than Sales Engineer, but didnt mention that the case only applied to you, so I assume you were making a general statement of the public and corrected your misconception.

I do not know what kind of PhD you or which field you are in for that matter, but I assure you even sales experience can help in a PhD thesis that is related, whether it is banking, finance, marketing or business growth strategy etc etc.....

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post Mar 16 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(THE DEEPER @ Mar 15 2009, 03:48 PM)
The middle east is the place to be right now.. It is the place with most cash money right now in the whole world!

And people there are more impressed in Academic than experience...I've been there and I know that...

I recommend Qatar, Dubai is good, but the lifestyle and money is much better in Qatar.. in addition, Qatar is one of the few countries who actually showed growth in this economic crisis...smile.gif
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I LOL-ed at that.

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 15 2009, 06:21 PM)
my cousin brother is a mechanical engineer who's working in dubai. he just came back here two day ago, economic recession in dubai is even worse. so do research before posting ur opinions dude...during this time, nowhere is safe.malaysia is doing great in da moment,we will only begin to feel the REAL economic downturn effects this june onwards(don't believe me can ask economic experts) icon_idea.gif


Anyway, Easylife is aiming to be an academician. So lets leave out the professional careers like engineers and such and focus on academic route.

In line with your PhD and perhaps your interests, I would suggest a technologically developed or at least "technologically conscious" country like the UK, US, Canada or South Korea (If you can stand up to it). You'll want to receive funding for your research, effective tools to pass on your knowledge whether through teaching or research, conferences, scientific collaborations, whatever method you choose.

Bear in mind that the Middle East is a CONSERVATIVE region. Abu Dhabi and Dubai are less strict, but nevertheless you are subjected to many regional laws of which are included in your job contract.

An example: In spite of recent economic recessions, Canada is still funding millions in Carbon Capture & Storage (CCS) technology to restrict their carbon gas emissions and reduce global warming as well as meet global environmental pressures.

This post has been edited by yewjhin: Mar 16 2009, 11:09 AM

 

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