9th March
-Dealt with him to buy Q6600 retail with box for rm450.
-Asked for HP number, said lost, no hp
-Asked for house number, said not at home, in ipoh
-Ask for office number, got reply (you dont trust me? do u think im conman? no deal)
-Fine, trusted him
-Googled maybank account, clean
-Proceed with deal
-reason for female account name holder = mum's account.

10th march -
-Banked in rm450 to account
-bank account info,
-see 15th march for more info

12th March
-expecting parcel, didnt arrive, pmed 19400
-excuses given
-after some discussion, agreed to do postage the next day.

13th March
-PM him regarding postage.
-got reply saying its already posted, was told to expect to receive it by monday
-asked for tracking number, no more reply from seller till now
-seller last online at today (14th March, 3.44pm), so no reason for him to not reply my tracking number

14th march
-edison1437 pmed me regarding the sincerity of 19400 since from one of his thread i replied i paid and awaiting postage. Asked if he is buying anything from 19400, and below is his reply

quoted from edison1437


15th march
-19400 came online at around 1am
-PMed him again to defend himself here, no response
-19400 closed all his sales thread and went offline again
-apparently my RM450 is deposited into piumiu's account as 19400 pretend to buy items using my deposited money
-bank account info removed from thread until things got clear up

Trust me 19400, my RM450 is not worth for you to con. I will track you down and your family will be in deep shit.

This post has been edited by pekies: Mar 16 2009, 10:24 AM

link to a conman profile http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=225739

maybe he's using his mother account number rite?
as for me, i will call the bank account owner for a talks, lol!

19400 is online now

He just closed all his sales thread.

PMed him 2 times to defend himself, nothing happen

Call the bank owner ASAP better. Suddenly close all thread.
Weird

like that very obvious he is con-ing what... since he closing all thread and sales....

dont worry, even he's using someone else bank account,
we still can ask the owner who's using your card to withdraw money
or maybe can ask, did you withdraw money for someone else, rite?

stupid trick scammer =)
time to track, where did he from? i mean location
database shows either negeri sembilan or kedah .. la la la

This post has been edited by codex: Mar 15 2009, 05:13 AM

walao..almost made a deal wif him last night,tried to trade my GC wif so called 'his' GC but he just kept on refusing as I even tried to arrange a meet,haha..fuhh,im saved...

BTW,TS..I tried to goole the rokiah bt othman name

got one match,but kinda weird I think..duno its probable or not

http://www.ump.edu.my/expert_directory_fkasa.html

i also almost deal with him but haven't bank in, lucky

but he gave me his contact 017-4645147 (jack lim).. n the banking detail is malay girl, very weird.

try to call this no 017-4645147 (jack lim)..

I been con! This person bought E8400 from me.
Sold to a malay guy with no HP at KTM rawang.
I thought he bank in RM450 for the processor and self pickup by his friend.

I am posting the conversation now.

Someone could guide me on how to post an entire long conversation from Inbox?

He wanted dealing with me again, yesterday at BB and wanted to bank in and self pickup as he so called dont trust postage.
I didnt see him he banking in as promised and told him to forward the deal on Monday when cash is cleared this weekend.

This post has been edited by piumiu: Mar 15 2009, 09:04 AM

is the payment made to you? and is the item still with you?

1. First deal (Money con from pekies)
Money bank in and traded in KTM Rawang by so called employee of his cyber cafe in Penang.
He show up late and called me to come deliver the item (using a borrowed phone no as there are no public phone near there).

2. Second deal (Money expecting from jhcwcc)
Deal went sour yesterday as the money was not bank in and I am requesting bank in details.

I have 2 buyers and only 1 (not him) PM me a scan copy of the bank in.
So I assume he didnt bank in and ask him to deal on Monday as its i feel something is wrong.

If the item with me, I would gladly refund TS. Now I am not sure. Never thought someone is able to do this.

This post has been edited by piumiu: Mar 15 2009, 10:04 AM

sounds like an "ABC" con case involving third party here...

piumui

mind to tell exactly what happened? so he duped you into believing he deposited the money into your account. Did the transaction of e8400 went thru? can you pm me ur number? i wanna clear things up.

Thanks

The case seems to be like this.

1. Conman opened a thread for selling item which pekies is interested.

2. Then pekies is told to bank in money to Piumiu's bank account by the conman.

3. After pekies bank in the money to Piumiu's account, Piumiu thought the conman has bank in the money to her , so proceeded the deal with conman's friend at KTM.

4. At the end , pekies got conned and Piumiu got pekies's money.

Lastly , the conman got the processor which is paid by pekies and ran away without sending the item as promised to pekies . What a *******....

The bank account used by the conman is belonging to Piumiu if im not mistaken.


So Piumiu will be called up by the police if TS reported this bank account info to the police.

This post has been edited by Riggo: Mar 15 2009, 07:32 PM

the damn conman so pro de...how to track him down then? no details of him anyway...sad to hear forumers keep getting conned as 1 of my fren also kena conned de...

as for me for this case i wont trust anyone,
just make a report and let others solve it with police,
it's hard to say this one is right and this one is wrong,
once in lock-up they will reveal the true .. trust me,

waa so pro pekies bank to piumiu and piumiu thought that con man is bank in then give proc so the conclusion piumiu get money pekies lost rm 450 and conman get free proc.fuh nowday con man got many tactic

I am sorry to Pekies and sadly this has happen.

Bear in mind I sold 4 processor and even sold one more today COD with w.rooney.nistelroy.
2 of the processor was also bank in and postage deals exclude from lim jack.
I have also sold others item thru postage even higher amount to nick cavalera at rm660.

I also have no dealings what so ever with pengkies and was unaware he is the one who bank in the money.
This jerk claimed he bank in and sound pity full as he came all the way by commuter during rain and also has deposit the money claimed by him.
I came forward as I read the topic today. Should I known earlier, I would trap the conman and told him to COD yesterday at BB as planned.

I can also show the bank account statement to show not just 1 bank in was made for the processor.
Only lesson behind this is only to use COD method is the best way.

Yes pekies, I was con into the money was from him and pass the processor to his so called cyber cafe staff.
Processor was handed over on 10th 8PM at Rawang KTM as he was urging me to finish the deal.

I have PM my contacts should you need any further facts and discussion on the matter.
I have 2 processor with me left and I dont need to con for 450. Its lame,

This post has been edited by piumiu: Mar 15 2009, 11:47 PM

wow the conman is kinda smart eh? That's a new. I haven't seen that around before

Sorry, but i find it hard to believe anybody now.

A police report will be made soon.

I will also made a police report on my part as to protect myself as I am innocent.

I have presented very good fact and trying to help from my part.


This post has been edited by piumiu: Mar 16 2009, 12:01 AM

This going to be a tough case since no detail left regarding to the conman and conman identity still remains unknown, anyways hope this kind of jerk should be struck by lightning or crashed by car someday.

We only have

1. His face description that I remembered from the deal, if that is really him or his friend.
Wearing glasses. Medium chocolate malay skin tan. Tall around 175cm. Wearing jeans and normal tee.
Mainly look like a college student.

Only if the KTM staff remembered my dealings with him, that would be a great relief.
Also note that 2 banks in on the 10th as 1 is from pekies and 1 more from onnjeyyon.
onnjeyyon processor was post on Saturday morning and tracking no has been given on the same day.

Another payment on the 13 was made by MaxK.
Items will only be posted tomorrow.

Other processor buyer is AnimeDaisuki cod yesterday night at giant.
w.rooney.nistelroy COD today 12 afternoon at kota damansara.

and a$$hole lim jack on the 10th at KTM Rawang.

That's all.

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Added on March 16, 2009, 12:25 amYou should feel that before banking in to a very newbie account that
never deal before. From seller side, we got the payment we will send the goods.
Please go ahead to do the police report but bear in all the information that you have gathered here as well.
But bear in mind that I wont bear for your looses even my account was involved.

This post has been edited by piumiu: Mar 16 2009, 12:47 AM

still the old way of con people by using 3rd party work better. without many trace

.

This post has been edited by sonark: Jun 25 2011, 07:44 AM

Yes. Definitely.

Sorry to hear this happens but I think this tactic is not new.

The only thing I can suggest is for the seller to insist on a copy on the bank in transaction as proof of payment and then insist on the buyer to bring the original copy as proof during the COD/hand in of items. This way, the seller won't hand their item to the wrong party while the conned buyer may get back their money provided he/she can proof that he/she did bank in the payment. The only thing is if the buyer or seller are from another site, then it's difficult to trace.

hey, i got some feeling that, the conman fren's that the conman said... is the conman himself....and he keep insisted he not around and don wanna postage... cos postage will nid him give u his details like name and those...and if he doing COD, why he nid bank in to piumiu and not pay directly to piumiu while cod-ing wit her at ktm station, it shud be more safe rite if the buyer bank in the money to fren to do the COD with the seller....he was plan well to do this... sorry to pekies..

This post has been edited by Calvin_PB: Mar 17 2009, 01:44 AM

Yes, but if maybank2u will generate a receipt and this still can be printer anywhere unless cash bank in slip.
Anyhow, the best way to do is COD is only cash on delivery. Postage is no personal pickup after this.

Hi,

To admin staff of LYN......i wanna suggest the registration should include full details as Lelong.Com does..

member need to send I/C phtocopy and verify by valid phone number...easy reporting and tracking when con cases happen..

bullcrap. this is not a trading ground first and foremost. its a tech forum.

full detail should be good buy ic and photocopy sure no one wan join this forum >.>

agreed!
mayb with extra tag if the member able to supply valid detail & documents

ya if wan to apply safe trade should give photocopy like tat etc etc

There will always be a trail to the conman one.The best bet would be to trace the handphone number he used to contact u.Start from there,Since handphone numbers r registered.

piumiu, did u ask the person the name of the account holder to verify?

Verify?

Case closed.

Conman caught. Item returned.



Special thanks to Mr Azhar, Ms Rokiah and a personal friend for contributing information to nab the conman. Proceeding to return items to repective owners.

Conman never wins.

Cheers.

gratz bro what u do to that conman?

is the 19400 is limjack?

if it is.... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/940462 try solved this case too guys

WTF! limjack?...pls help us solve our con prob la with this guy..

HELP US LA

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/940462

How u all catch the conman???wat happened to him?Sent him to lokap?

sorry guys,

The conman i pursued is not limjack or the conman that u mentioned and has nothing related to your con case. My conman is just using limjack's name to con other ppl (note limjack85 and limjack is different).
He is a 19yrs old malay guy, not some 29yrs old chinese girl as mentioned in your post.

Good luck to you guys.

kilowatt, i kena b4, uruha...., dat i told u last time, answering phone is a guy, but account holder is a lady
first time i bankin to de account, i received de item,
secondly bankin, many excuse, explaination n etc
but he's coward, den i get back my refund. coz he's not pro enuf to con me

mind to share how to you caught the conman?

...ok2...thx!

can i go and whack the conman TS?please?so many con cases...make the heat goes up~

wah thread started gangster

this case kinda complicated but luckily the conman got caught already..

i think lowyat.net should apply the same things like lelong.com did.. an ic verified to all seller and buyers. This will make a transaction a bit secured and safe.