Supporting MMU for good career prospects...

UTAR students have a good career prospects too, like what the newspaper claimed it few days ago.

Hello all,

As a graduate from MMU, let me share my experience here. And btw, I took Electronics Engineering course too.

Qualification: I got 8A's for SPM, add math, math is A1, but physic A2. When I got my SPM result, I was kinda lost, I do not know what I want to do, I just do not want to take F6. I was not so sure what engineering is about, but it 99% sounds cool, I am a female btw.

Financial worry: In case you are worry of the fee(but I assume you are not, bcoz both UTAR and MMU is in par in fees), I can assure you almost all if not ALL of us, the mmu-ian get loan easily from PTPTN. Except the first time payment(less than RM 2k), I had never forked out any $ for the tuition fees. But be prepared that you need to have pocket money from your parents as allowances.

Pre- University: Engineering Course in MMU requires 5 years for SPM leaver. 1 year for Foundation Year(mine in Melaka, not sure now if they have Pre-U in Cyberjaya) and 4 years with Faculty Year(either Cyberjaya or Melaka). Most of the engineering subject for Engineering Pre-U are to general physic instead of electronics.

Lecturer : On my experience, if you are more to spoon-fed education, MMU is not really the one for you. Here, you will only get 30% of the lecturer to spoon-fed you, if you were lucky enough. I myself, believe that lecturer=10% while your own effort is 90%. Fully attendance doesn't ensure you pass the subject. Your own effort make you score the papers.
You might met some lecturer that was not good at teacing, that will make you hate that subject if you are the type that are counting on GOOD lecturers to teach you everything.

Facilities : The library was good, and the best (my opinion) is the online system, we call it MMLS, where is the place the lecturer will upload all their teaching material so that the student can have a copy prior to class. I always use only this notes as my revision material. Same applies to tutorial, some lecturer will be kind enough to upload the answer of the tutorial for your reference(I mean after the tutorial discussion)

Exam: Normally, it is 60% on final project and 40% on coursework which involve mid term paper

Culture : On my observation, the majority of student in Engineering Course were Chinese. Most of the assignments(calculation type) solution will be circulated a day before the due date. So, I don't really bother to finish my own assignment, unless the nature of assignment is on programming or paper writing. Think of "sharing is caring" for assignment. Yeah, that also applied before exam, the culture of "pinjam tutorial" aka. copying solved tutorial for own revision.

Food: Cyberjaya is really lacked of entertainment and food. Without a car, getting decent chinese food nearby is quite a tedius task. As for entertainment, computer will be you best friend I can say. Melaka is good with food but I somehow feel that Cyberjaya have more university life. Don't ask me why, maybe Melaka is surrounded by lots of houseing area

Hope this helps you. And during my batch, MMU graduate get more advantages to compare with UTAR in job hunting.

Good piece of MMU review.



We shouldn't expect to be spoon-feed by lecturer, come one, college already. Be independent.

Yeah, i think we grow up in spoon feed education, that is why lots assume university way of study is this way too.

Huh, at my college, lecturer spoon feed us by giving a lot of questions until we fainted.

MMU = GREAT facilities, real education

UTAR = Lenglui a lot a lot a lot alot alot alot aaalllllllooooootttttt.................................................................................................
UTAR = i've been there once, hard to concentrate, too much students in the freaking lecture hall....

UTAR, i meant Kampar UTAR, the PJ branch one, still not bad.

As for price range, i think their differences is not that much?
Not sure bout it.

Busy concentrating at girls? Too much students? Too much girls students in lecture hall izzit?



Btw, I prefer a uni with better facilities.

This post has been edited by Faith+1: Mar 17 2009, 08:18 PM

but comparing the fees..MMU expensive than UTAR lo

reali?i tot the same. . .

ya..the foundation in UTAR 6.5k << for science stream..and in MMU is 9.1k..big difference

thn hw bout degree course?

degree in UTAR about 30k..in MMU about 45k

MMU is expensive than UTAR. But based on what they provide, such as facilites, I think worth it.

go for MMU la, i think MMU campus should be better than UTAR campus..

tell you, other than lecturers, campus life is also very important, and the activities inside..
big campus always better than small campus in term of activities, and you can meet more people, make more friends when joining activities..
the feeling is totally different between big campus and small campus..

campus life is only once in your life time, dont make yourself regret.. as i m a victim from small campus..

feel regret when visiting big campus..

getting 7A, i think it won't be a problem to be in an institution, scholarships or partial ones should be made available and one of the priorities~

here are some factors in helping you make decisions, from what I wrote in MMU thread

do u even see any MMU advertisement in The Star newspaper? i see none, this is how serious the admin of MMu has become~

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Added on March 22, 2009, 10:56 pmLaw faculty started for an estimated 3 years, it's best that you call MMu to ask~ by the way, also bear in mind that MMu has not been providing information regarding policy change that may be a valid reason for accreditation termination~

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Added on March 22, 2009, 10:58 pmshould be around 44k

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Added on March 22, 2009, 11:03 pm2nd year students amounting to 50% had failed their Fluid Mechanics and the appeal to have a class to avoid prolonging graduation has been replied with 3 words -> "not enough manpower" pls look at the earlier link regarding the abolishment of W model issue for the answer to your question regarding the new administration after Prof Ghauth went to UM, 1 dean and 2 lecturers went over to UTAR

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Added on March 22, 2009, 11:06 pmthere has been rumours on TM giving out MMU tender but no one accepted~ if this were to be true, is it a case of TM selling MMu? could it be linked to the lack of advertisements and sudden increase of failure rates if all these are true? just food for thought

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Added on March 22, 2009, 11:10 pmi believe that enquiring is good only if u get answers~ here, take a look, u be the judge~ President's "Foreword" page, "Coming Soon" even when the President is here for almost a year

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Added on March 22, 2009, 11:12 pmit's true that Ghauth is no more in MMu and that lecturers and even a Dean of FOE has went to UTAR, are the new policies which are implemented even in the exam unit and the bell curve from the new president?

I recommend software engineering and ISE under FIST faculty~ basically based on the fair pricing for having the priviledge of having lecturers who actually do research and development in the university itself~ lecturers who do that are actually very much towards the academic side~ as for engineering courses, I'm not so sure but I'd strongly recommend that u stay away from mechanical as the failure rate is very high, u can check the failure rates by downloading the list of students who failed in the bulletin board -> bulletin.mmu.edu.my

i happen to have a downloaded file, sem1 of 2008/2009 (change the extention from .doc to .xls as .xls is not allowed in LYN), i counted 83 students failing fluid mechanics, total students were 160, that's 50%

well, from my opinion, i don't see why MMu don't wanna earn more if they can~ i think u can check from bulletin board that one of the SRC had put on a thread on starting a class, poor fella~ my advice is that u check the bulletin board for the last semester and then talk directly to him and ask, he's still in SRC after all

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Added on March 23, 2009, 12:08 amstandard depends on many factors, supply and demand being one, the government & money being another and nearer to student, it's the professional bodies and in-campus politics~ let me tell u, CPA reported last month that they were not aware of the policy change of MMu, they didn't know about the W model~ so account students, take note~ when a new president comes in with new policies, can u say no to it, i wonder~ will a Dean say no? everyone is working for a payslip at the end of the month and dare u say no to the boss?

as for the W model, it has been implemented and will not be changed from what I've read in the SRC blog

i'm in social university aka working, fortunately~ my sis is in MMu~

the word "engineering" means "the process of making"~ most of the time, in profession, the word refers to physical and tangible objects and therefore, we get electrical and electronics engineerings (circuit board), mechanical engineering (engine), robotics engineering (automation) but when it comes to software engineering, u'll be making softwares through building computer codes and then compiling them to become programs~

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Added on March 23, 2009, 8:07 pmu're right, it's not fair to say that high failure rates makes a university bad~ in my opinion, asking "why would high failure rate happen in the first place?" would be a better question~ thanks for your post and lets have a look. here are some possible opinions to why there are high failure rates :
- One of Utar's professor who is an associate dean mentioned that there are measures that ensure that failure rates as high as 50% would not happen (logic : there may be a thorough discussion prior to a policy and not just implementing)

- who will be responsible when students fail? (logic : 1) the intake policy, 2) lecturers' final questions relating to what he/she has taught 3) the quality of the education from the aforementioned lecturer, 4) policies which does not have space for any adjustments in case of human error like the abolished W model, 5) the students' studies) even if it is the students who are at fault here, it wouldn't be as logic as the aforementioned logic 1 - 4, i wonder "which student doesn't want to pass?" by the way, do u know that if u get just a credit in science and maths, you can be admitted to MMu in the year I enrolled?

- quality of MMu declining before the abolishment of W model? any proof on this one? (logic : I've seen with my own eyes the past year question papers available from the library and I advice u to have a look as well)

- pls be aware that there has been pre-requisites in all courses in MMu at this moment~ any failure of most of the subjects, i estimate 90% of the subjects, would mean that a student has to extend at least 1 year in order to graduate if he/she doesn't want to squeeze that particular subject into the already packed university schedule (logic : an estimated 95% of the subjects offered will only be offered in 1 specified semester and none other, if a person fails a subject, he/she has to wait 1 academic year in order to retake it) will the future students of MMu have to grad with 4 - 6years as opposed to other university students? we're here to learn, not only here to be forced to waste time and be graded~

full PhD academic staff... I'll vote u as student representative, my friend~ but not as a president~ no pain no gain~ full PhD academic staff would burn a hole in every student's wallet, as well as having low efficiency for those PhD staffs because they are the only ones who can provide Masters~ if they are going to provide Masters, these students have to choose between part-time or full-time~ If part-time Masters pursuers are not allowed to be lecturers, the cost of maintaining the academic staff would be tremendous and then the square one question arises, why not let Masters qualified PhD pursuers be part-time lecturers to save cost? I guess that shed some light~

thanks for your questions, I think u helped a lot in clearing doubts~

MMU, better study environment... nice library..
but lots of rich second generation...

u mean those rich kids? i thought they went to sunway and taylor?
btw, the new UTAR campus in kampar is ready last year, facilities should be better i think.
electronic engineering is conducted in there too. but i wonder why parent likes to recommend MMU......

MMU hands down! ... MMU reputation in Malaysia is better than UTAR. I would strongly recommend MMU if you have to choose between this two.

and MMU reputation is not so good since the dean of engineering moved to UTAR, i wonder reputation of MMU still can remain for 5 years or not