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Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask

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loveless90
post Feb 26 2010, 11:50 AM

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congratulations to u, tats a pretty good results thr. u're definitely eligible.
u can try aimst, it has the most affordable pharmacy course in malaysia. though the competitiveness would also be very stiff too as i heard there are many foundation students in aimst and aimst usually give the seats to their own students before letting others like A level or stpm graduates to step in.

and u can always ask for ptptn loan too...ucsi offers pharmacy too. i have a fren studying in ucsi and she applied for ptptn loan. however, u will still needa pay a partial amount of fees cos ptptn wont give u 100% full loan...well tats wat i heard from my fren in ucsi. hope this helps~
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post Mar 17 2010, 04:32 PM

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anyone knows what is the total estimated costs of studying Bpharm in IMU for credit transferring to NZ or aussie? including cost of living there too.
I'm comparing nottingham with IMU now cos the other day i went to the edu fair in midvalley KL and the pharmacy lecturer told me tat even tho we graduated from nottingham and finished the pre registration pupilage year in the UK, we're not guaranteed a job there and the UK gov tends to restrict us, the foreign pharmacists in the hospital sector only and chances to advance to other sector eg community and industrial will be given to the local pharmacists or european pharmacists only. May i know how true is this? anyone cares to tell me the details?
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post Mar 17 2010, 06:05 PM

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thanks for the reply. yes i have heard tat UK ppl are very friendly and not racist. But what about the employability rate of asian pharmacists in the UK? is it favorable? because after spending 400k studying in nottingham, i'm sure no one would wanna come back malaysia to work not after u earn back the 400k at least.

and is the demand of pharmacists in the UK high? as i've seen there are quite a number of pharmacy schools in the UK, i guess the number of pharmacists would also be quite high.


Added on March 17, 2010, 6:10 pmALSO, this question has been hovering in my mind for quite some time. IMU and nottingham, which would you advice me to study in? please tell me the pros and cons (if any). thankss in advance. smile.gif

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post Mar 19 2010, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(youngkies @ Mar 19 2010, 03:30 PM)
as long as you have the registration as pharmacist in UK, job is not hard to come by whatever race you are. beside, a lot of companies do depends on overseas pharmacist to get the job done, as some local british pharmacist are just laid back.

and its not about money all the time. I do see a lot of people going back even after just a year of working/training in uk due to stress and boring life in here.
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thanks thanks for the clarification. So i guess as long as i'm hardworking enough and don be so laid back, i can secure a job there pretty easily tho not 100%.

May i know are u a pharmacist in practising in the UK? If yes, may i know is it super cold there? like let say sometime can even reach 1 degree celcius...
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post Mar 20 2010, 11:18 PM

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mind me asking are u spm leaver? if u are, i think its better for u to take stpm, at least there's still chance to get into IPTA which costs u almost nothing if u apply for ptptn loan (like what my sis did).
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post Mar 30 2010, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 29 2010, 10:50 PM)
yea its good..they are following usm's syallabus..if u wan easy life then go imu..if u want the best then go monash..


Added on March 29, 2010, 10:51 pmi'd like to know how many pharmacist are required in the pharm companies? like those producing drugs? do they take in a few? or maybe just one to supervise the quality? thanks~
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i do not think its easy studying pharmacy in IMU. cos i have a fren there and he said life in imu is very hectic and he barely get enough sleep. and tat is for Bpharm not Mpharm. Mpharm is less hectic i heard.


Added on March 30, 2010, 10:50 am
QUOTE(youngkies @ Mar 29 2010, 09:31 PM)
I enjoyed  being a pharmacist. End of the everyday, I have given plenty of advices from minor illness and treatment to specific advice of medication information, made sure hundreds of my customers receive their medication at right strength and right dose, of course right medication, and ensured hundreds of medication prescribed being dispensed with no margin for mistaken.

What more, the pay is good, way above the average pay, feed myself and still extra to spend after savings.

What I don't enjoy most, stressful most of the time due to multitasking, lack of staff, and lack of support from the managers, who knows only about targets targets and targets.
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haha so that is what a pharmacist do, pretty self satisfying. May i know how many years have u been practising in the UK? biggrin.gif

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post Apr 4 2010, 10:50 PM

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Hi guyss...may i know which is better between pharmacy in nottingham and pharmacy in monash? You guys' opinions? because to me i think notts is better cos its Mpharm, however the fees is alot higher than tat of monash's.
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post Apr 4 2010, 11:06 PM

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thanks everyone for the prompt replies.

Yeaa im well aware that notts pharmacy is a 2+2 course and hence its more exp. However, when u say notts is definitely a better choice than monash, may i know why? Is it only because of the oversea exposure and the chance of working in the UK? and let say what if one studied in notts and got the cert and worked in the uk for a few years and then he kinda got bored with the life in the uk or rather he found himself did not suit the atmosphere thr and had decided to come back to malaysia...does he still need to work in the gov hospitals and serve the gov for 3 years before being granted the license to practise in malaysia as a registered pharmacist?
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post Apr 5 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(jerk @ Apr 5 2010, 12:03 AM)
@loveless90

ok.. let put it this way. just go have a look at the salary pharmacists are getting here in malaysia and over in uk and take into consideration the living cost as well.

i highly doubt anyone would want to return to malaysia so soon after graduated especially when one has a job over there, considering the various factors not forgetting the responsibility of a community pharmacist in both country is so different. job satisfaction would be another important factor to consider as well

nott has great reputation over in uk but monash malaysia has to rely on the reputation they has over in australia still for their pharmacy degree.

if you are considering getting back the money your parents invested in your education the fastest as you can, i think uk would be a better choice.

what is really holding you back anyway? afraid of being homesick?

ps: i am working as a pharmacist assistant earning 17 per hour before tax. i am talking about australia btw.


Added on April 5, 2010, 12:06 amjust a word of caution as fees seem to be your major concern,

assuming you paid the fees in pound and you are earning pound, how long would it take for you to get back all the money?

assuming you paid the fees for monash malaysia, how long would it take for you to get back all the money?

nott did offers high achiever fees waiver as well. nott definitely worth trying
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Thanksss jerk. Yes if i wan to earn back the money tat had spent on me, the best way is to work in the uk. The reason that I kind of hesitated going to notts for pharmacy is that i'm afraid i cant acclimatise myself with the environment thr and the climate there especially since i'm really nt a big fan of cold climate. I'm just scared that i cant cope with the coldness and later on cant continue on my studies and are asked to withdraw. This is what i'm really scared of.

And money is not a problem i think cos i'm intending to apply for bank loan. tho it doesnt cover 100% of the total fees, my parents are able to pay the rests.

17 per hour? is tat alot in australia? and i heard living cost in australia is even higher than tat of the UK. How true is tat? I'd really prefer working in australia rather than uk. too bad monash doesnt offer 2+2 course.


Added on April 5, 2010, 4:06 pm
QUOTE(baoz @ Apr 4 2010, 11:10 PM)
Yes, regardless of where you graduate from, as long as you want to practice in Malaysia you still have to do your 3 years.

Just take it that the money you pay extra for Notts you get to experience and expose yourself to a different environment, life and community.

I can't comment much on the course structure other than the fact that Monash's degree focuses more on theory and research while UK degrees (Notts, Strathclyde) focus more on practice.

So I would say that the only advantage Notts has over Monash would be the overseas part and UK recognition.
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thankss baoz. So UK degree focus more on practical? will it do any good when u start working that time? smile.gif

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post Apr 5 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(bridget @ Apr 5 2010, 04:32 PM)
how much bank load can cover? and the interest high?
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my father will apply under his company name max loan is 250k and interest shud be 5% if im nt mistaken. But this is not certain, cos my father will ask for loan only if he is unable to afford. that is if something unforeseen happened to the business which i seriously hope will not ever happen. But u js wouldnt know what happens tmr...so its like a backup plan.
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post Apr 6 2010, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(bridget @ Apr 6 2010, 11:25 AM)
both of my parents are government servant. so i don't hav any company to apply under.anyway i can apply for bank loan?
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actually, i nvr really called any bank for clarification. I only know that my father can apply for loan and i do not think it's education loan. U can always try calling CIMB bank or OCBC...so far only these two are the more famous ones in giving loans.
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post May 18 2010, 12:41 PM

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can a student with ABC enter imu pharm? I'm asking this on my fren's behalf.

and if let say she can enter, will she be able to survive throughout the 4 years? what are the probabilities? TQ
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post May 18 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 01:16 PM)
ermm...
its a case to case basis actually..

if they accept u..then its great...

i got fren entering with BCC for medic...

is she weak in chemistry? if yes..then she will have a hard time...but if she's hardworking to ask and learn what she dun understand...she still can survive..=)
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BBC for medic? wow thats...ugh idk what to say~

she got B for chem and A for maths..C for physics and she did not take bio (forgot to mention this earlier...sorry)

but how hard it is to pass the semester test? passing would be easier than scoring distinction i guess...do u guys knw of any one successfully finished the whole course with results and situation like her...by any chance?
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post May 18 2010, 02:23 PM

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hahaa okk thx alot zstan!

i'll let her know things tat u said. She's still considering whether to take pharm or not cos she's nt very confident that she'll be able to pass. She wouldnt want to resit for any paper and waste time + money. xD
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post May 20 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(jerk @ May 19 2010, 11:47 AM)
@abbychan87

the salary is at first page. see for yourself.

ever heard of the term of personal interest?

sometimes you too have to settle for a little lesser than the one you want, if you get me.
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this is referring to the bold part yea.

i don quite get you, jerk. Are u implying that u dint initially want to take pharmacy but for some reason u still chose to read it? haha just geybo here~ LOL hope u do not mind xD biggrin.gif


Added on May 20, 2010, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(nimloth32 @ May 20 2010, 09:44 PM)
just wondering..for a fresh grad pharmacist in msia..does earning 3.5k per month can afford my life if i am not a heavy spender? can i save any money?

i am not studying the degree for money soley..i just want to have some idea how to budget my money after grad..biggrin.gif

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nahhh there's noneed to worry for whether or not u can afford your life being a fresh pharmacist. My sis is a fresh grad too and she's IMO a quite heavy spender (girls spend more than guys..cos they shop for new shirts and they buy lotsa skin care products sometimes can even go up to 2k in a single purchase) and almost every week she will treat me and my younger sis to eat smtg good (ard 20-30 per person)...lol but now no more cos she's fled over to sabah since she got assigned thr by the gov.

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post May 21 2010, 02:38 PM

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BTW this is just something i heard during my interview in notts the other day...

the lecturer (my interviewer) told me that pharmacists in the uk are often regarded as chemists. uk ppl often say ' i want to consult a chemist'' rather than 'i want to consult a pharmacist' when they want to go to the pharmacy.
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post May 21 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(nimloth32 @ May 21 2010, 09:07 PM)
lol..nola..just wondering whether pharmacist still in demand in msia or not..coz recently i heard from my friends studying in usm saying that the hospital in west coast malaysia already getting saturated..and since there are so many fresh grads pumping out from everywhere each year, so well..it is pretty much a big worry..

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yeah im worried too haha but if you're going to worry abt everything...u will never be able to sleep soundly in the night~ lols

more and more unis are offering pharmacy course now as well as medicine...how come takde dentistry i wonder? if only monash/notts has dentistry~ haiz

by the way, the last time i checked the requirement for pharmacy in imu is BBB whereas for medic, its BBC...how come ar? and i just wanna ask you guys' opinion on the min requirement set by universities in msia for pharmacy course (disregarding local public ones lar), do you think its high or low or on par with the oversea's min requirement? tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2010, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 13 2010, 09:33 PM)
yea..basically memorising...and thinking as well la of course..

chemistry u study everything lor....organic..inorganic..etc..

for pharm we only touch organic chemistry...and other more subjects where chemistry don't touch like pharmacology(drug interaction) and pharmacokinetics..

physiology should be the correct term here.

biology covers every living things la...humans..plants..ecosystem...etc...

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a social-type, bubly, talkative and active girl, can be serious but when not necessary..still can be a pharmacist lor...

business dun suit u la..from what i've seen u type so far...

anyway..who am i to judge right? smile.gif
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so pharmacy requires u to knw plants and ecosystem too?

arghhh i hate PLANTS! doh.gif
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post Jun 24 2010, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 03:41 PM)
just spamming around...

still haven go in monash yet.. tongue.gif  next yr only masuk... laugh.gif

so u decided? pharmacy?u r just after spm right? take ur time la. sweat.gif
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eh u havent entered monash...

i always thought u're a monash student d. lol!!!
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post Jul 2 2010, 03:56 PM

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ok, as funny as it might sound, i have a question to ask. Are pharmacy students considered as medical students too? i know dental students are. lol xD


Added on July 2, 2010, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 28 2010, 08:39 PM)
yeapz..i on 7 months 'holiday' now. laugh.gif hmmm..monash is pretty strict for the admission..ucsi also ok ma....=/


Added on June 29, 2010, 4:14 pmfinally paid for the fees today. can add me to the list liao.tongue.gif
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haha how long have u been 'holidaying' ar?

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