1000 extra per month if are west malaysian doing your service in east malaysia.
it is about 3800 gross atm.
Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask
Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask
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Jun 24 2009, 06:38 PM
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1000 extra per month if are west malaysian doing your service in east malaysia.
it is about 3800 gross atm. |
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Jun 25 2009, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(holycreeper @ Jun 25 2009, 11:00 AM) I went to the government polyclinic and a private hospital few days ago, and I found out that there is a Pharmacy section in both places. it is common to have pharmacy in hospital. and yes in hospital, dispensing and prescribing is usually clearly separated. doctor to prescribe and pharmacy to dispense it.So, I was wondering if the separation of prescribing and dispensing rights is practised, or it's just another way to ensure efficiency in delivering services. Any clue? but in community, dispensing separation doesnt apply. and what you can see in those clinics is not pharmacy, instead is a dispensary. a pharmacy is where a pharmacist is present, but not in dispensary, where your medication can be dispense by a form 5 leaver, according to a doctor prescription. |
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Jun 27 2009, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(Kathy9 @ Jun 26 2009, 11:35 PM) What is the main difference between Mpharm offered by Notts and IMU? Notts MPharm 2+2 is fully accredited by the RPSGB in UK. What is needed to enable one to work as a pharmacist in UK? What do you mean by pre-registration training? hence their graduates are allowed to train as pre-reg in UK. pre-registration training, as its name suggest, pre-reg pharmacist trainee. every graduates of MPharm degree from fully accredited uni by RPSGB, is required to do 52 weeks of pre-registration training with hospital, community pharmacy or industrial, to sit and pass for the pre-reg exam, to fully fulfil the competences and signed off by your tutor, before anyone is allowed to register as a pharmacist in UK. so as for pharmacist from outside UK?EU, no matter how many years of experience they have as pharmacist in their home country, when they come to UK to work as pharmacist, they still have to work as pre-reg from start. |
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Jun 27 2009, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 27 2009, 09:13 AM) Between pharmacy and other science based courses like biotech r biochem, which do employers prefer to dabble in research works? it is simple, what do you want to do in future?cos from what i know, pharm has more diversed and flexible jobs than a biochem degree holders, pharm can either go to reseach or be a pharmacist selling and dispensing medicines and drugs.but not the vice versa. Is it true? Pls,biochem has more flexible job fields or pharmacy?? if you want to be involved in medication more specifically, go for pharmacy. if you want to do anything related to biology, human, plants, animals, earth etc etc, go for biochem/biotech. the downside of bio related field, is the amount of graduates being chunked out every year, wider scope = less specialities and quantities over qualities. |
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Jun 28 2009, 07:18 AM
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Jun 28 2009, 08:16 PM
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Jun 29 2009, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jun 29 2009, 12:28 PM) Hi everyone! less chance? yes, any pharmacist outside of EU stand lesser chance to work as pharmacist in UK. Just wondering, for Pharmacy is it better to study at AIMST or UCSI? I've already applied to UCSI but am now considering AIMST as well coz (surprise surprise) AIMST fees for Pharmacy is cheaper. But I've also heard that places are limited for AIMST Pharm course, etc. Is it wise to still apply? Fyi I sat for STPM and my result is 3A for P.Am, Bio, Chem, 2B+ for Maths T and Physics. Hope that I'm not being too obnoxious or anything... at this time of the year still no place to study, and UPU didnt get oso the course I wanted (I applied for Pharmacy Also, regarding a pre-reg in UK issue discussed earlier in the thread.. is it possible for Malaysian grads and pharmacists to be allowed to be a pre-reg pharmacist there as well? I mean, after the 4 years total bond to the government it should be enough experience (min 3 yrs working experience right?) to try for pre-reg. Or do Malaysians generally have 'less chance', to be frank? if you have 3 years working experience in your home country or country that recognise your degree, you can apply for a pre-reg position in UK. BUT, as usual, strict conditions applies to employing overseas worker, also the limited places for pre-reg every year. plus, pharmacist profession is going to be removed from the shortage occupation list soon. so overseas pharmacist stand lesser and lesser chance. |
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Jul 2 2009, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE(cynthia_tss @ Jul 2 2009, 03:01 AM) honest opinion : the course will train, shape, and forced u into a good pharmacist. but before u became one, u may need to undergo sum terrible process such as endless reports, long n boring lecture, quizzes.. exams.. etc.. and certain killer subjects can kill up to half of the class each time... graduating as pharmacy student is just an end for the new more terrible processes and experiences of being a pharmacist. first batch is out, i am great i am one of them.. ahem... for me it is good. |
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Jul 4 2009, 09:06 AM
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I NEED BREAK................
ok enough of complaining.. (p/s this is related to pharmacy discussion) |
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Jul 5 2009, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 4 2009, 06:51 PM) @youngkies - Lol, don't we all? Are you studying or working anyway? stress? not until you have worked as a pharmacist, esp. being the pharmacist in charge of a community pharmacy in UK.@Dely - Ah cool! We have one senior from KICT! How is life over there as pharmacy student there? How is the campus, lecturers, facilities and everything? Anyway I think I'm gonna stay at UCSI. Should I crash and burn I will ask to change course to biotech or food science. |
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Jul 5 2009, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 5 2009, 06:13 PM) @youngkies - You are officially my hero! LOL I plan to get my Pharmacy degree (if all goes well and my brain cells stick with me), do the government service then try the pre-reg in the UK... anything I call you ok? LOL.. How do you secure a place with the pre-reg anyway? Do you get placed with a community pharmacy anywhere they like? Or do you have to get the job first as a provisionally-licensed pharmacist then you apply for the pre-reg? Help us out here if you can! ya, do ask / PM me if you have any query.government service in msia you mean? if you are fully qualified pharmacist in uk, you can skip the provisional year in msia, but you have the pass the provisional pharmacist exam in msia, to skip the prp year. pre-reg places application starts in august before the students start their final year. So most students can get pre-reg places offered even way before they graduated. location is based on availability. of course spaces in good cities are more competitive compared to places where no one want to go. you can choose, but you will not be guaranteed based on your first choice, it depends on your competences. |
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Jul 5 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(rockmylife89 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:31 PM) Cynthia..may i know how is the course of pharmacy?is it like physics and maths which require a lot of twist and turn ...or like biology requires a lot of memorising work? How to ensure we can score?and what is the main reason the students will fail?Is it because they lazy to memorize or they r not good in twist and turn the knowledge? I can be very hardworking..i m juz afraid that the success depends on talent ..which means even i am hardworking..but i cannot be guaranteed to score juz because i am not smart enough to turn like in maths and physics..can u pls reply me as soon as possible?thank you very much.. it is more to biology. it ain't a really easy course too. plenty of coursework, writing, reading, assignments, lab work etc etc.currently i am planning to take the foundation in mahsa or masterskill..i did my stpm already..but my chemistry doesnt meet their minimum requirement..mahsa and masterskill ask me to take foundation in their college...mahsa and masterskill ...which one is better in pharmacy degree?masterskill already have their 4+0 la trobe degree...now is the second year..although they said the syllabus and books are from la trobe..but i think the lecturers are the same people who r teaching the pharmacy diploma students in masterskill ...so..r the lecturers qualified enough to teach the degree students?then about the mahsa..they said they will have pharmacy degree starting this september...they said if i want..i have to take foundation ..same as the masterskilll....but they r u not in colloboration with any other foreign universtiy like masterskill...and i think they also use the lecturers teaching diploma in mahsa themselves..so..i really confused now..can u pls teach me how to do now? thank you very much..pls reply me as soon as possible..they already start their foundation course now.. though it varies between schools too. |
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Jul 6 2009, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 6 2009, 12:12 AM) @el8155 - Eh she took STPM ady la... why would she want to take A-Levels again, which is so inferior to STPM oh no. if you are coming into UK as overseas pharmacist, you have to sit for the pre-reg year and exam.@youngkies - So that means, after I complete my provisional year and (if) I pass the provisional exam to become fully registered pharmacist in Malaysia, then after I serve another 3 years as a fully registered pharmacist, then if I apply for pre-reg, I am allowed to skip the pre-reg year and straight do the pre-reg exam? Or can I apply for pre-reg straight in my 3rd or final year of studies, but do the pre-reg year then followed by the pre-reg exam? In this case since UCSI is far from being on RGSGB's recognition list I think it's not applicable... hehe... Sorry if I muddled things up! what i mean is that you can skip Msia PRP year if you are UK registered pharmacist, but not vice-versa. after all, there is no term as provisional pharmacist in UK too. nope, unless your uni is fully accredited by rpgsb in UK. |
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Jul 6 2009, 07:21 PM
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In UK, for certain exams/tests/modules (i.e. dispensing, compouding calculations), calculator is prohibited.
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Jul 7 2009, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(jerk @ Jul 6 2009, 07:53 PM) speaking of compounding, how often do we use aliquots calculations in real life compounding? i have not compounded anything since i left uni. most of the time we are forced to use aliquots in compounding lab because they ask to compound only 30ml or other small amount. any prescription for extemp, just place order via specials, they will make anything you want. |
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Jul 8 2009, 05:23 AM
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one thing for sure, language barrier/issue.
i have met a few pharmacists from czech republic in UK, came over as EU pharmacist, for one reason, money and job satisfaction. |
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Jul 8 2009, 08:15 PM
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i wouldn't recommend it either.
language issue. |
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Jul 8 2009, 09:00 PM
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well go for instinct then.
if instinct telling you it is fine despite being first batch, then go for it. as simple as that. where do you want to work in the future? back to msia, Aus or UK? |
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 9 2009, 12:48 PM) Popping in again to ask if you guys know of any website links to credible and trusted pharmacy or pharmaceutical-related online journals... Thanks! what kind of journal you are looking for?there are tonnes of it. Added on July 9, 2009, 8:13 pm QUOTE(valens @ Jul 8 2009, 11:18 PM) bare in mind that in the UK, recently, pharmacists are no longer in shortage, so it would be even more difficult now or in the coming years, for international students to have an opportunity to work there.. yes sadly, it has been the removed but awaiting review again. you can read up more about it here: link but it should be alright, despite the profession has been removed from shortage list, but we all know, the profession is still at shortage. This post has been edited by youngkies: Jul 9 2009, 08:13 PM |
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QUOTE(ShaneNg @ Jul 9 2009, 08:28 PM) I know it's a tedious question, but I'm asking this on behalf on my friend. read the first page. What's the difference(again) between a BPharm and a MPharm? Does MPharm produce Master qualification Pharmacist? Sorry, I seem to be finding a lot of different answers, so. Thanks MPharm is replacement degree for BPharm in UK since years ago. Since it was reclassified as MPharm in UK, they throw in some learning skills at master level too. so in the end, it is still a master degree. |
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