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Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask

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zstan
post Jun 14 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(chenal @ Jun 14 2010, 10:24 AM)
Yeah, way to high. shakehead.gif
But for those who are really good, they can try. No harm trying. Hehe!
Are you from IMU pharm?
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but for that amount of hard work...the rewards that they give are quite insignificant lo..except for the first semester discount... sweat.gif

if didn't remember wrongly need get 90% to qualify...

haha nope..rejected their offer..
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post Jun 14 2010, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2010, 10:31 AM)
but for that amount of hard work...the rewards that they give are quite insignificant lo..except for the first semester discount... sweat.gif

if didn't remember wrongly need get 90% to qualify...

haha nope..rejected their offer..
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Can i know why u dun wan to choose IMU? Just curious. tongue.gif

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post Jun 14 2010, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(chenal @ Jun 14 2010, 10:47 AM)
Can i know why u dun wan to choose IMU? Just curious.  tongue.gif
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ermmmm...firstly i find it quite overcrowded..for the first two years there will be about 120 students together..medicine is worse..

if you have been there before the campus not really big..for me i prefer a smaller class la...and more space to walk around..feels more like a uni ma.. laugh.gif

the student to lecturer ratio is not quite healthy IMO..

the course itself is also very expensive..my friends at IMU have confirmed with me that their price increases every 2 years?so for that large amount of money i'd rather go for an internationally known (note: known and recognized are two totally different terms) university in Malaysia.


lastly...IMU is just too damn far from my place... sweat.gif

and i have heard more bad comments on IMU compared to good ones from my friends studying there...so................ sweat.gif


no comment about the quality of graduates and lecturers though.. smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2010, 10:58 AM)
ermmmm...firstly i find it quite overcrowded..for the first two years there will be about 120 students together..medicine is worse..

if you have been there before the campus not really big..for me i prefer a smaller class la...and more space to walk around..feels more like a uni ma.. laugh.gif

the student to lecturer ratio is not quite healthy IMO..

the course itself is also very expensive..my friends at IMU have confirmed with me that their price increases every 2 years?so for that large amount of money i'd rather go for an internationally known (note: known and recognized are two totally different terms) university in Malaysia.
lastly...IMU is just too damn far from my place... sweat.gif

and i have heard more bad comments on IMU compared to good ones from my friends studying there...so................ sweat.gif
no comment about the quality of graduates and lecturers though.. smile.gif
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wow... you did do a lot of detailed searching. It's true that IMU pharm is 120+ students every batch. Fees is increasing every year, so more later more expensive. You're in UCSI pharmacy?
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post Jun 14 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(chenal @ Jun 14 2010, 11:18 AM)
wow... you did do a lot of detailed searching. It's true that IMU pharm is 120+ students every batch. Fees is increasing every year, so more later more expensive. You're in UCSI pharmacy?
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my future lea.sure need do research la. unlike some blind people out there who chooses uni based on their 'popularity'.

not saying IMU not good but just my type of uni la. laugh.gif

erm..they can take in 150 if they wanted to...

yea..didn't have the chance to see their pharm facilities though...wondering did they buy some massive drug making machines for students to try...but i can't deny that their dentistry facilities is top class. laugh.gif

but i want to reiterate.. i am NOT saying IMU SUCKS! notworthy.gif

nope..going monash uni...

previously from ucsi though..got a bit dissapointed and frustrated with them... laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 01:03 PM

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@zstan

you took A level or pharmacy at ucsi ?

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post Jun 14 2010, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(jerk @ Jun 14 2010, 01:03 PM)
@zstan

you took A level or pharmacy at ucsi ?
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a levels.

going monash uni. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2010, 09:22 AM)
are u sure u like biology?
as what i've said, biology has a wide range. from humans to plants to insects to reptiles to flowers to ecosystems to environment. u sure u like all of those?because doctor only study about humans.
ugly truth, i love almost every chapter in biology in the beginning.... but when is comes to plants, amphibian, insect or fish.... i'm turned off sweat.gif

QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2010, 09:22 AM)
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thx for the advice... hehehe
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anyway, that's what i heard from one of my friend la.... doing science course like pharmacy locally isn't so good... its like basically "pointless"... i'm not sure what she's trying to prove.... is it true? i'm aiming for masterskill or mahsa.... browsed through segi website, seems like they offer buts its only master =/
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QUOTE(JoannaKwan @ Jun 14 2010, 04:09 PM)
ugly truth, i love almost every chapter in biology in the beginning.... but when is comes to plants, amphibian, insect or fish.... i'm turned off  sweat.gif

thx for the advice... hehehe
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anyway, that's what i heard from one of my friend la.... doing science course like pharmacy locally isn't so good... its like basically "pointless"... i'm not sure what she's trying to prove.... is it true? i'm aiming for masterskill or mahsa.... browsed through segi website, seems like they offer buts its only master =/
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what does your friend mean by pointless?

if he/she said studying pharmacy won't make u a multi-millionaire then its true. unless u open u open ur own factory(which produces money-making products la of course), or develop a drug to cure AIDS then yes.

aiyo...segi's MPharm is the equivalent of Bpharm..

u didn't really do much research on pharmacy course did you? rclxub.gif

masterskill and mahsa are still quite new...dun even have first batch graduates..correct me if i am wrong...

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well, i agree with your friend. doing pharmacy locally in malaysia would hardly takes you anywhere, and the sub par job satisfaction compared to the places where separation of dispensing is possible.

life as a pharmacist is like being a storekeeper, a pharmacy owner said that. you will not be working along with doctors, you work under them.

i was planning to top up a master postgraduate from elsewhere initially, and end up being in the academic side. imagine with the mushrooming of school of pharmacy back in malaysia, the competition to get quality teaching staff is fierce, and there is where ucsi has fail.


Added on June 14, 2010, 7:30 pmon a side note, do you want to list out all the school of pharmacy that is in your consideration and a brief note why you excluded some of them.

to be honest, your choices are a little weird.


Added on June 14, 2010, 7:57 pmThe following universities are provisionally accredited. This means that they are new MPharm providers who are admitting students but have not yet graduated any students:

* Sunderland University & SEGI [Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia]
* Liverpool & MAHSA (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
* Cardiff & Taylor's University College

try to stay away from them at the moment.

for more cardiff taylors information - http://www.rpsgb.org.uk/pdfs/edcardiffsumrep0910.pdf

it seems that Sunderland University, University of Strathclyde and the International Medical University [Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia], Liverpool John Moores University have to meet some conditions if they are to be reaccredited for another 5 years.

and baoz, would you please pin the following link. thanks. http://www.rpsgb.org.uk/acareerinpharmacy/...duateeducation/

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post Jun 16 2010, 02:30 AM

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studying pharmacy is expensive.... even for a loan, it might takes a great long time to clear it..... i wished to be in IMU or taylors too, but they're far from my capabilities, that explains my weird choices :sweating:

but i know pharmacist make big bucks and pharmacist is the least i'm interested on.... anyway, pharmacist is so far on my top-list... there's others and there's plenty of research i'm about to do =)

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post Jun 16 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(JoannaKwan @ Jun 16 2010, 02:30 AM)
studying pharmacy is expensive.... even for a loan, it might takes a great long time to clear it..... i wished to be in IMU or taylors too, but they're far from my capabilities, that explains my weird choices :sweating:

but i know pharmacist make big bucks and pharmacist is the least i'm interested on.... anyway, pharmacist is so far on my top-list... there's others and there's plenty of research i'm about to do =)

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u can opt for cheaper choices ma..

UCSI..MSU...cyberjaya..although jerk won't recommend u all these 3 la.. laugh.gif ..but if you want the course badly why not? dun need go for overseas uni la... shocking.gif or if u really wanna go overseas maybe u can opt for monash and work ur ass off...because the top students of each semester can go to Australia for one semester as a part of their exchange programme but u will be paying malaysian fees!

and who on earth told u pharmacist make big bucks? (speaking for malaysian context)

during ur pupilage..ur pay around 3k..(for fresh grad okla consider high)..

then ur 3 years compulsory service..the most maybe 5k? 6k?

then what? if u decide to stick with the government the highest you can go is only 15k...of course there work load and stress load is small la..

if u decide to open your shop...u need a huge modal before u can do that...rental..buying medicines(u no medic sell what?)..air cond..electric..all these will eat into your income at the end of the day...however this will change if pharmacist gets dispensing rights..IF..

so what's next? i can only see u making money if u go into sales and marketing or manage to create a cancer killing drug.

u can generate a stable income but being a millionaire before 35 will seem far fetched.

if u wan to do pharmacy from my point of view is most importantly your interest and passion towards serving people. if its all about making money i suggest you look for another course. smile.gif


@jerk
from what i've heard IMU's licence for twinning kena gantung before right?

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not too sure about the suspension.

looked at MSU, their semester quite weird. normally 4 years is 8 long semester.

Total Semester: 9 full semester, 3 short semester
Duration: 4 years

@JoannaKwan

MAHSA 2+2 is going to be cheaper than fully done course?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1065099/+0&#
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actually we don't even know her budget to suggest her any place in the first place. laugh.gif


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post Jun 16 2010, 08:18 PM

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hehe.... aren't many pharmacist a millionaire? 8k~10k consider high for me edi (i'm not greedy, i'm a girl afterall smile.gif )

opening a shop would be good, better with a partner but again, i'm not a very greedy girl =)

i see my siblings they took business courses and heavily worked even he's just a fresh grad, 2.5k.... maybe because its IBM

aiks.... i'm starting to sound like a drama-queen here :sweating:
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post Jun 16 2010, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(JoannaKwan @ Jun 16 2010, 08:18 PM)
hehe.... aren't many pharmacist a millionaire? 8k~10k consider high for me edi (i'm not greedy, i'm a girl afterall smile.gif )

opening a shop would be good, better with a partner but again, i'm not a very greedy girl =)

i see my siblings they took business courses and heavily worked even he's just a fresh grad, 2.5k.... maybe because its IBM

aiks.... i'm starting to sound like a drama-queen here :sweating:
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name me one pharmacist who's a millionaire.

and i mean below 35. okla. too high. below 50! in malaysia.


yes.

if compare fresh grad pay..of course pharmacist earn more.

but 10 years down the road, you will see who's laughing.

IBM some more. if work MNC pay can double up easily if you are good.

but the good thing about pharmacist is its recession proof..no matter when u will still have a job. smile.gif

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hey some update my status(4th yr). hehe

hye guys.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 16 2010, 09:54 PM)
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name me one pharmacist who's a millionaire.

and i mean below 35. okla. too high. below 50! in malaysia.
yes.
but the good thing about pharmacist is its recession proof..no matter when u will still have a job. smile.gif
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perhaps a hundred-thousandaire.... hehe....
thx u for ya help and reply here....
i'm gonna make up my mind real soon
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Dely @ Jun 17 2010, 10:04 PM)
hey some update my status(4th yr). hehe

hye guys.
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hihi nice to meet u notworthy.gif


Added on June 18, 2010, 12:13 am
QUOTE(JoannaKwan @ Jun 17 2010, 10:47 PM)
perhaps a hundred-thousandaire.... hehe....
thx u for ya help and reply here....
i'm gonna make up my mind real soon
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haha...

to sum it up..if u wanna pave ur road to riches pharmacy is not for u.. laugh.gif

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