how bad is bad? since u claim it is bad, what is the figure u got and still consider bad?
if u dont provide figure and just say is it 'bad', arent that the same as proton?

compared to avanza 1.3 k3-ve 116Nm, i think this will do much better
anyway, fetched 7 people to genting with avanza, underpower yes but it still able to get the job done
and fetching 7 people is never an easy work to do.. anyway, the underpower is based on paultan experience on 'underpower' which is highly subjective as it cant be expressed in term of percentage/figure for comparison.. just like when i said wira 1.5 has good power while some will said it will underpower

75k with no isofix failure? explain 1xxK honda civic

do u have any slight idea how cramp grand livina is? its definitely not a comfy people mover

i lol'ed hard..
go live in australia then
in malaysia, civic cost u 130k, so a big mpv costing rm80k is considered reasonable
still b****ing about the taxes? go become trade ministry and propose zero tax on foreign car then

all car in malaysia are overpriced, but at least the pricing is much much better than that offered by toyota especially the shitty vios and myvi which is definitely super overpriced for what u paid.. if u know what is the pricing they should put in their car, go become proton marketing strategist and push the car to get lower price, like u said, 20k for saga
quit b****ing and do ur part, sigh typical malaysian

quality?
130k car suffer from bad nvh?
130k car only sit 5?
130k car for fully ckd car?
130k car got no complaint?

did u even test drove all the said car before giving ur comment? shhsh

much bigger than ur T brand avanza

myvi my arse.. the width of exora itself win the myvi, more over the headroom.. plus myvi cannot fit 5 large adult comfortably
perodua? myvi? toyota? avanza? gimme a break

4 star EURO-NCAP?
got state meh? i only read the chasis made to achieve 4 star

hi, my house got toyota avanza, proton wira, honda city, honda accord, and perodua rusa
i know very well what avanza can do and for the price we bought last time (60k), it is indeed a good buy.. as time goes by, i feel the avanza is a crap car but still manage to finish its job nice

never near? i beg ur pardon?
the waja/perdana/exora/saga already same if not better than the japs especially the V with T logo

no, factory fitted turbo normall are low pressured and was fitted perfectly.. bolt on turbo on the other hand was fixed forcefully and normally BOT user will go for high pressure without upgrading its internal thats y the engine or turbo spoilt..

1st of all, how do u define near? V as in Vios and T as in Toyota and i never compare money, im comparing the quality..
lets compare the waja cps with vios.. waja has bigger interior, much stable in high speed, greater horsepower/torque, better built (vios is full of plastic), better seat, and better handling..

then we proceed to the complaint section.. how much do u know about number of vios having problem in service centre? what about waja then? do u know what is the common problem between the 2 cars?

then we proceed to ur judgement.. how qualified are u to said they are not near while others said opposite? how much do u know about automotive industry besides the politics in it? how much do u understand the issues rather than from hearsay?

and then u ask what had other achieved? lets compare with toyota in malaysia.. all they do is introducting more variant of vios from cheap to cheaper quality.. besides, proton is juz a small player in the market, how do u expect them to have major changes all in the sudden as in bigger company? from ur statement, i know u r not competent in automotive industry as exora is considered as big leap for proton after saga blm.. the momentum is definitely there, cars lover know that, kid know sheet

face the fact, u r juz one of the dumbest person who justified based on the hearsay or u r fanboi for the japs/koreans.. or u r juz some rich ******* who can afford better car by using dad money, try buying it urself and u will shitbrix.. idk

pss: how many times u repeat just show ur immaturity, stop repeating coz u r disgracing urself

instead of giving general statement like that, push up some facts or u r juz pretty lame flammer

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Apr 18 2009, 01:58 PM

turbo just ned extra oil change during ur maintenence interval.. u dont have to purposely clean ur turbo,change bearing (if u had one), overhaul, etc

since it is gated shifter, i dont think it is nescessary to have to press the brake to release from D as u wont be accidently pushed it to engage gear due to the gated scheme.. the ned for P to disengage by pressing brake normally was found in gear level in straight configuration.. correct me if im wrong

i know but what for do u ned a lock to disengage the p in gated style on gear lever?
u definitely won accidently kick/punch/move it from P to D plus u do less 1 step to move the gear lever from P to other mode..

btw, i dont understand 'gated is for the in gear engagement'

actually it doesnt make sense.. the whole lever is under gated scheme.. why is it only D-3-2-1-R consider gated?
and for the safety u r talking about, the only way to reach R is to push left n pull down to reach R.. under what circumstances u will accidently do that?
besides, i personally think it is unnescessary.. even car like toyota wish and nissan murano doesnt have that

u dont understand.. wish and murano doesnt need to step on the brake to engage gear
go test one and u will know