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 First review of the Proton Exora

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post Apr 18 2009, 08:40 PM

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under torque?
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:55 PM

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it also depends on the gearbox and final ratio... at the expense of higher engine RPM..


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post Apr 18 2009, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2009, 09:01 PM)
AFAIK, Exora AT shares the same gear ratios with Gen2 CPS AT and Waja CPS AT. Just the final drive ratio is shorter*.
*not 100% sure.
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should be taller ratio rite? to improve the torque at the wheels if it were to haul more weight for the same engine??..


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post Apr 18 2009, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Apr 18 2009, 10:51 PM)
Yeah, I agree too! I would say the Exora is powerful because my Wira at home takes about 25-30 secs from 0-100km/h!
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wah serious or not? I tot Juara was the slowest in the potong range.. (or maybe tiara?? )
used to have a 1.6XLI wira auto, not that slow leh..
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post Apr 19 2009, 12:10 AM

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saw the car today, the weird thing is that the gear selector knob can shift from P to D without stepping the brake pedal.. why liddat wan???
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post Apr 19 2009, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Apr 19 2009, 12:23 AM)
Isn't that normal? I thought all cars are like that?
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if you have a button on the gear knob then just press the knob..

if you don;'t have the auto gear knob button, then you have to depress the brake pedal to release the knob from P to D.. no car I have owned let you shift it freely without a safety mechanism..
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post Apr 19 2009, 01:26 AM

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interesting program, but just wondering, how did you derive these items from the 3 cars?

I think the real life Speed vs time graph will be very different from the graph above.. too much assumptions being plugged in to the calculator not to mention engine torque graphs for the 3 cars are probably measured on 3 different dynometers and under 3 different conditions..

also there are 2 shift points shown on the graph.. which a lazy shifting auto box may cause 1+seconds difference of shifting lag between the cars.. (here can see all assumed to shift with the same lag times which we know different autoboxes have different shift lags)


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post Apr 19 2009, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 19 2009, 01:30 AM)
As far as I know, all Proton A/T cars are like that.

Tried Waja/Perdana V6 A/T, all same case.
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dunno V6, but IIRC perdana 1st gen also have, all must press first before can move it from park to D mah..

this one just flick the gear also can engage to D.. so safety lock want?

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post Apr 19 2009, 02:14 AM

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maybe they are all in the same underpowered group.. but being consistently below the curve (blue line) means it's the most underpowered of the bunch.. (from the graph conclusion)

anyway, a test drive would probably be more accurate conclusion to one's opinion whether it's underpowered for his/her taste.

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post Apr 19 2009, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Apr 19 2009, 02:23 AM)
since it is gated shifter, i dont think it is nescessary to have to press the brake to release from D as u wont be accidently pushed it to engage gear due to the gated scheme.. the ned for P to disengage by pressing brake normally was found in gear level in straight configuration.. correct me if im wrong
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nope.. gated is for the in gear engagement.. my previous pug 407 has it, my current swift and zoom zoom and JDM toyota also have the lock


Added on April 19, 2009, 2:32 am
QUOTE(kevin23 @ Apr 19 2009, 02:28 AM)
I saw a convoy of Exora just now in Shah Alam near Hicom interchange with those plates starting with B XXXXX

I tell you,they look better in pictures because in real life,they seriously look hideous,especially the side view..
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side view looks bulky and out of proportion (makes the koreans look good next to it) ..
luckily I tot the front view not too bad.... engine bay view with red engine cover looks good also..

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Apr 19 2009, 04:08 AM)

btw, i dont understand 'gated is for the in gear engagement'
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meaning it's for selecting the gears.. like moving between d- 3-2-1 or R..gated.. without looking at the gear selector..

the lock is a safety mechanism lor, when the engine is running and you knock the level from P to R, you will be in trouble if the brakes are not depressed.. could roll backwards into someone or something..


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post Apr 19 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Apr 19 2009, 09:41 PM)
actually it doesnt make sense.. the whole lever is under gated scheme.. why is it only D-3-2-1-R consider gated?
and for the safety u r talking about, the only way to reach R is to push left n pull down to reach R.. under what circumstances u will accidently do that?
besides, i personally think it is unnescessary.. even car like toyota wish and nissan murano doesnt have that
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toyota wish and murano doesn't have it (the shift button on the knob) because you have to step on the brake pedal before you can shift it from P to D.. duh!

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post Apr 20 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Apr 20 2009, 03:58 AM)
u dont understand.. wish and murano doesnt need to step on the brake to engage gear laugh.gif
go test one and u will know
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if you don't know dun ask people to test test la.. biggrin.gif


Added on April 20, 2009, 11:41 pmairboom is rite.. I also got similar JDM toyota.. need to press the shift lock to engage if you dun depress the brake pedal to move the lever out of P.. even my RX8 and Swift have to do this.. it's a basic safety feature , potong really cut corners, this also want to omit? .. sigh!

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