Too exaggerated maybe?

It is dirty, underpowered and noisy. Not to mention the driving experience is awful because of the vibrations and the understeer generated (diesel engine weights more than petrol engine). Furthermore road tax for diesel cars are taxed higher than its equivalent capacity petrol engined back in those days.

Bad driving experience + hefty road tax = shunned people away from diesel cars.

Now that the gomen has amended the rate of diesel engine the same with petrol, a diesel engine is worth to be researched by proton. Diesels are Europe (especially UK) main selling point. More malaysians are more "diesel cautious" now, just look at the amount of pick up trucks, Rextons and Merc CDIs and BMW 530d/525ds running around.

As for this proton MPV, the only flaw I've found so far is the lack of ISOFIX. As Paul mentioned in his blog, that is just robbing us just because most if not all of us didn't have any idea what's an ISOFIX.

low like sports car?
lmao
Havent see Odyssey and Stream b4 kah? =.=

and those Kias you've mentioned doesn't fare so well either. Same plasticky thing.

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Apr 16 2009, 12:00 AM

There's still hope with the B-line coming with a 5 speeder manual...
Manual is still a huge seller in m'sia.

expect a Mercedes S600L space at third row meh?
Actually it's best in its class edi.

That one is minibus edi.

Overpriced Protons? Pfft.

One got to understood that a Proton car is NOT of 100% local content. Most of the electronics isn't made in Malaysia because probably Malaysia doesn't have the suitable industry to manufacture these yet, so they have to outsource from other markets. The ECU for the airbags for example is made in Korea and engaging consultants from LG CNS isn't cheap either. Not to mention, Proton have to crash a total of 32 Exoras during their crash tests.

The recent entry of Mazda and Mitsubishi with their CBU cars at competitive price already shows the fine example of who is actually been slaughtering fellow ignorant malaysians. I am not gonna elaborate more on this as it'll only drift away the point of this topic further.

Be considerate.

Legally, the third row seat is NOT to sit THREE persons.

Oh really?
That's kinda contradicts what a taxi driver told me...

"Tengok sumua olang... satu olang dalam satu keleta. mana tak jam aiyooo..."

lmao.

It's only 32 for the Euro NCAP.
Other more established manufacture crashes up to 100+ cars of the same model for Euro NCAP, Japanese NCAP and USA IIHS crash tests.

to buy??? O.o

Livina has a 1.6 and Avanza comes with a 1.3 as a base engine too. The question is, how fast one wants to travel? 110km/h? 180km/h?

IMO, if the car is capable of 120km/h then the engine is already sufficient for the car. As Chinese said, go so fast, rushing to reincarnate meh...

max torque is around 145~6 Nm.
In between 2,000 rpm - 3,000 rpm, there's about 133Nm~139Nm (more than 3/4 of maximum torque) at disposal edi... and the Nm just keeps on rise all the way till 4,500rpm. So shouldn't be a problem.



I would say the torque distribution is quite linear, but of coz isn't as linear as a diesel engine.

AFAIK, Exora AT shares the same gear ratios with Gen2 CPS AT and Waja CPS AT. Just the final drive ratio is shorter*.



*not 100% sure.

as I've posted earlier, I'm not so sure regarding that.

Tht Exora Prime boleh jalan one... o.O

I thought it's a dummy...

Bonet + insulation material (foam)
nanti caught fire loh... lol

AFAIK, even mercedes bonnet also bare metal oni.

Which Waja?
You meant the big plastic thing izzit?

oh, tht black thing.
Yah, now I oni remember back...

Must be Proton's cost cutting measure again... but then, many journalists said this MPV is pretty well insulated.

steering wheel will be a discomfort for those with sweaty hands like me...

yeah, somehow I prefer Waja's steering too.