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 iPhone OS 3.0(OUT NOW!) + iPhone 3GS(Late July?), Apple Store Italy sells 3G[S] UNLOCKED!

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TSstringfellow
post Mar 13 2009, 02:05 AM, updated 17y ago

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iPhone to preview iPhone OS 3.0 on March 17th.

The last time this happens, close to a year ago, when iPhone OS 2.0 was previewed, the new iPhone 3G comes shortly after.

Heads up to those who doubted the fact that a new iPhone is coming generally, and those who doubted my own forecast cynically before. whistling.gif

Logic and history dictates. Keep up or zip up. Just saying..........

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NEW INFO!


For those keeping tab on the iPhone 3G[S] scene, some good news. Remember this link? Before this it shows which country provides unlocked iPhones based on their carriers. Now, it has been updated to include columns on which carrier provides MMS and Internet Tethering as well. I would presume, since these two new columns marks as new updates, the state of "which carrier/country provides unlocked iPhones" are also updated as well, and the list is now updated to include the state of unlocks for the 3G[S] as well.

If that is the case, these following countries are the countries are currently still providing unlocked iPhones to their customers, and presumably the same state of unlocks for the upcoming 3G[S]:-

Countries with officially unlocked iPhone 3G, and therefore presumably, the iPhone 3G[S]

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Belgium(Mobistar), Czech Republic(O2, T-Mobile, Vodafone), Greece(Vodafone, Cosmote), Italy(TIM, Vodafone), Luxembourg (Vox, LUXGSM), Russia(Megafon, MTS, Beeline), Turkey(Turkcell), Hong Kong(3), Macau(3), Malaysia(Maxis), New Zealand(Vodafone), Singapore(SingTel), Taiwan(Chunghwa Telecom), Thailand(Truecom), Saudi Arabia(Mobily), UAE(Etisalat), South Africa(Vodacom)


There are a list of countries whose carrier provides official unlocks for their iPhones even though the initial state of the iPhone is locked, but I wont bother posting those. The process of these unlocks REQUIRES the presence of these iPhones to be within the country which provides these unlocks, and such logistics and planning can throw a lot of the planning off. My targets are the iPhones from countries above because they are more than likely, because of their law, REQUIRES their iPhones to remain unlocked officially.

Among the countries listed above, here are their release dates:-

First Wave
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Italy - June 19th


Second Wave
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Belgium - June 26th


Third Wave
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Czech Republic, Hong Kong, Luxembourg, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Africa - July 2009


The rest are on the Fourth Wave which is in August 2009.

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post Mar 13 2009, 02:20 AM

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Watch online? Dont think so. you can expect sites like Macworld, Gizmodo and Engadget to cover it blog-style just like the previous events.

This event may coincide with the current rumor on Apple's new 10 inch touchscreen device circulating. This may end up either being a netbook, but seeing how Apple's previous statement/stance on netbooks and their dismayed outlook at it, it may well up being the long-overdue Mac Touch with WWAN connection.

Either way, good times ahead.
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post Mar 13 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Mar 13 2009, 10:38 AM)
i think new firmware only
wont be any new phone yet.
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Mar 13 2009, 11:06 AM)
Duh, new firmware and SDK development kit will be introduce by Apple to developers before releasing it to the general public or new iPhone. They discuss it now and release it together with the iPhone in June or July.

It's all about software not hardware. Always remember that Apple refresh their product line up once every year so last year's iPhone 3G was release on July 11th so this year would probably be in June or July.
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What he says. Thanks Mike3300, so that I dont have to type in my response to that quoted post above, your post says it all. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(allvin @ Mar 13 2009, 11:21 AM)
yawn.gif another firmware update.. so?

*bet surely later everyone going get disappointed again and start bashing.. (WHERE'S COPYPASTA? ) lulz

like always, they will prevent JB again and dev need 'crack' their head hard.
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You're obviously OBLIVIOUS to the whole sequence of events happening last time when the firmware number jumps from 1.1.4 to 2.0. Sure, it was only a an event detailing what's new and additional features, but come three months after that, look what happened. I dont have to be a rocket scientist, or look for patterns in the night sky to see the same thing is happening again here.

But thanks to that "insightful" response though, we need someone like you to keep things aground. Don't let the door catches your ass on the way out come this July though, when I say "I told you so!" wink.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Mar 13 2009, 05:01 PM)
eh boy, not happy that your thread was deleted is it? or your blinking ignorant 17 year old mentality cannot cope with that?

the actual intention of this thread is to confirm the release of the upcoming firmware by apple.

besides this thread is way more relevant than your useless (and not to mention silly) "testing and don't mess with me" the thread (which was subsequently deleted)
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I guess David went to work too fast for me to catch this post in the flesh. laugh.gif

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omg..u r one annoying fellow...
it is just a rumour.. this junk do not deserve to have its own thread.
To the original poster, whose name fits the bill of a typical Kopitiam dupe, this is not a rumor. Macworld, iLounge, Engadget and Gizmodo has already validated it as fact, and Apple has already passed out invitations for this event. If your post is here, just to retaliate what I posted earlier,.....grow up. That's what most of the guys at the section you inhabit and fester in, needs to do.
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post Mar 13 2009, 09:10 PM

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To those excited about the OS3, this is simply an announcement, hence the word "preview". The actual firmware will definitely not be available on this day itself. This mainly revolves around the improved version of the iPhone SDK, and how it impacts the future of iPhone.

This also means the event will reveal what's in store for Firmware 3.0. Further deduction from what's included as a feature in this firmware will tell if additional features not possible on the current iPhone will surface. For example, should the event touts a new mobile version of iChat, this will definitely mean a hardware revision is required (since the current iPhone does not have front-facing camera).If this happens, it will definitely means "July 2009", and "new next-generation iPhone". I'm personally hoping the technology Apple introduced for the slim-but-longer-battery-life battery inside the 17-inch Macbook Pro be miniaturized and made into the "next-gen iPhone". That way, we dont have to worry about running out of power like the case of the current iPhone3G. *addons like Mophie iPhone3G Juice Pack does not apply*
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post Mar 14 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(moyl_finuda @ Mar 14 2009, 02:46 PM)
lol, feel good somebody agree, neways if the new model got video call, or ichat, with my previous 2 phones that got video call, i dun like, coz expensive n slow, n no point looking at the other party's face, jst by sound faster, wat i think la, hehe tongue.gif

looking forward to the rumoured mms n bluetooth feature very much though  drool.gif
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Another guy with the old "my previous phones" mentality. Apple does things differently. This is evident from the way the approach firmware upgrades, application development and yearly product cycles. You have to shed this "Nokia/SE" mentality, and the experience tied to using these kinds of phone, what Apple is going to do, will, and has always been, evolutionary. They do not follow everyone else (sometimes to my own anger...where's my Blu-ray drive, Steve!), they do it their way. And most of the time, it BREAKS the mold of what people usually associate it with their previous experiences.

Video conference calls , even on iChat has changed many ways people converse with each other. Unless you've used iChat and its multi-client conference feature, you wont get what I mean. iChat on iPhone would definitely be a killer app, not to mention killing the bandwidth as well. It will not be slow(like your previous experiences with your other 2 phones), otherwise Apple would definitely not add it in, if it is not worthwhile.

Your "previous 2 phones" probably has VGA resolution cameras with pathetic processing power to begin with, resulting in that "slow" experience, but what if Apple adds the same resolution camera as its front-facing camera for its iChat? All these while other cellphone manufacturers stuck to the tried-and-true formula, and not willing to step up and change the way things are done. How long have we had VGA resolution front-facing cameras? How long, and still is, has the cellphone manufacturers has STUCK themselves with physical buttons until the iPhone comes along, and FORCES a change in perception on virtual keypads? The same paradigm shift will happen again once Apple decides the next new features of the next-gen iPhones.

I can dream, and those are my wishlist. But as wishful as it is, I dont see it as being impossible. If I told you in the year 2005 that virtual keypads will move to replace physical buttons, and buttonless phones will be popular, you'd probably laugh back in my face. Look where we are now, with the iPhone.
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post Mar 17 2009, 02:30 PM

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This little tidbit of info, scoured from sources still bounded by Apple's NDA, describes what's coming in OS3.0, take this with grains of salt (saltier, the better tongue.gif), these are not official until Apple's done with the event tomorrow at 0100.

1. Kevin Rose's "copy and paste" rumor, and how it works is spot on. Doubletap on the word, a magnifier comes out with quotes on both ends of the tapped word, stretch the quote around blocks of text you want to manipulate, an option window will come out for either a copy, paste or cut action on those quoted blocks of text.

2. Remember Push notification? The feature promised to come last year September and not heard of since? This one crashed and burned, ladies and gentlemen. However a lighter, alternate version of that, allows up to 3 (subject to change) apps with supported background-running features to run.

3. Home screen revamp. Gone is the generic black background Home screen, you can now use your own background image to spruce things up. Also to your discretion is the ability to organize your apps (no more swiping right for your apps on Page 8) using stacks, not unlike the fanning(or gridding if you wish) out of the items when you click your document stack on your current Mac.

No mention from these sources about MMS does not menas they are not included in tomorrow's reveal of OS3.0.

Even more wilder, are the reference back to the "next-gen" iPhone made unibody-style. Take this skeptically folks, tomorrow's event focuses around the new OS and SDK, therefore any reveal of the "new iPhone" will be minimal in chance anyway.

Don't kill/maim/brutally beat the messenger. blush.gif tongue.gif

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post Mar 19 2009, 06:57 PM

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Late to the "response" party but not on getting the news. Also just watched the Keynote through the podcast downloaded from iTunes.

Looks like there's no news on the "next-gen" iPhone, although the point brought across that the hardware may just be barely enough for the current iPhone3G to run all these new features may point towards either a hardware improvement(better processor, more random access memory, more capacity) but still essentially an iPhone3G, or a whole new iPhone.

I'm starting to feel the pinch on the capacity side, having to now designate podcasts, songs, and TV shows between my iPhone3G and my iPod Touch. I would be happy with just a capacity bump to 32GB this June/July, but a processor bumps alongside that new delicious mobile GPU being introduced by the company that makes the current iPhone graphic processor unit, would take the "next-gen" iPhone to new heights.

Either way, this June/July will be glorious, with or without new hardware upgrades. The new OS3.0 is awesome, feature set would simply shut up the moaners and snickerings from the naysayers.
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post Mar 19 2009, 11:37 PM

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To those doubting the future timeline of the iPhone to lead to a new iPhone, I'll hold you to it. I know we all want to justify our recent purchases of the iPhone with denial claims of a new hardware refresh..."no, it cant be, I just got it"..."it's too soon, Apple will not do that"...and all those other excuses, READ UP ON APPLE's PRODUCT CYCLE AND REFRESH HISTORY. I come to realise that with the iPhone's popularity, there is an influx of a lot of naive, ignorant newbies who take Apple's product refreshes just like how other product refreshes they are familiar it and equate that to Apple's own.

Don't believe me? I've been saying this and I'm saying this for the UMPTEENTH time, head to Macrumors Product Guide and read their Buyer's Guide. Apple's product cycles are thoroughly explained and described there for all their products, including the iPhone. Read what it says and come back here. That guide there basically advises savvy and knowledgable Apple users who are looking into buying either new product or looking into upgrading, about how old a product cycle is about a particular item, and should or should you not buy it now.

Just because YOU buy it recently, DOES NOT MEAN that Apple is obliged to follow your own purchase trend and hold off a product refresh/upgrade to a year so that you feel that you made an intelligent purchase. Next time, KEEP UP. Buy them either when they are relative fresh and new in that product cycle, so that when the time comes for the next refresh, it actually does feel you had made full use of that purchase.

Apple does not follow YOUR timetable, they follow their own. This same fact applies to everyone, INCLUDING late-acting telcos like Maxis, who take their own sweet time to release this locally, Apple does not compensate for your lack of vision or forward thinking if you are late on keeping up with technology. If you're late, bye bye.....you're left behind. There is no room for backward-minded folks in the current digital age of technology. If you plan to be a savvy iPhone or any Apple product user, KEEP UP.



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post Mar 20 2009, 12:16 AM

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Besides the well-informed guide at Macrumors, more indications pointing towards a new iPhone from this news blurb:-

http://www.iClarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=3296

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After already enabling tethering on his iPhone developer Steven Troughton-Smith has found references to a new product in the iPhone 3.0 firmware.

The file, /System/Library/AppleUSBDevice/USBDeviceConfiguration.plist, lists USB configuration details about various iPhone and iPod touch models. Currently released devices listed are the iPhone1,1; iPhone1,2; iPod1,1; and iPod2,1.

Steven has found references to four unreleased devices the iPhone 2,1; iPhone3,1; iPod3,1; iFPGA; and iProd0,1. All of the products are assigned unique productID numbers but have a productString of iPhone.

ArsTechnica suggests that the iPhone3,1 and iPod3,1 are clearly references to next-gen hardware version of those products (perhaps Apple is skipping iPhone2,1?). Smith suggests that the iFPGA could be a prototype device that uses field-programmable gate arrays, a type of programmable microchip. It doesn't conform to the standard numbering scheme that Apple uses for its hardware products, so it isn't likely something intended to be released. The "iProd," on the other hand, uses a 0,1 number, suggesting it is a prototype of an as-yet unreleased device that is neither an iPhone nor an iPod touch.

Could iProd be the rumored 10" touchscreen?


I hate to be the bringer of bad news to new, recently purchased iPhone owners, but I'd hate myself more when the moment comes this June/July and having to spurt out those 4 words that these eternal hopefuls would hate to hear: I told you so!



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post Mar 20 2009, 12:35 AM

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http://www.iClarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=3301

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Apple is set to launch new OLED notebooks and flat panel monitors along with a new OLED iPhone claim sources at LG in Korea.

SmartHouse spoke with a source inside LG which says the new iPhone and iPod touch due later this year will have OLED screens made by the company. The source also said Apple had a working prototype of a new device which also uses an LG screen.

More Korean sources are saying that LG has been testing OLED panels in the area of touch sensitivity and "leave behind finger marks". They believe that by adding a layer in the manufacturing process that they can eliminate "finger marking".

Smarthouse was also told that Apple is looking at a wafer thin OLED screen that will link with a wireless content device similar to the current Apple TV.
The floodgate is slowly trickling out its embargoed info.
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http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/19/upload...in-next-iphone/

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Engadget Mobile discovered an interesting screenshot from the iPhone 3.0 beta operating system that is labeled "Upload Video". The screen reportedly appears when you try to upload photos to MobileMe. While Engadget is labeling it as an interesting "typo", we feel it likely suggests that video recording and upload capabilities will arrive in the next generation iPhone which could be released as early as this summer.

There have been intermittent reports about the next iPhone revision, but few solid leads. Still, whispers have suggested that June/July is the timeframe for the next iPhone which is said to be a major upgrade over today's model. Talk of multi-core CPUs and GPUs suggest the next iPhone could be significantly more powerful than the iPhone 3G. This could pave the way for rumored features such as background processes, and even video recording. While Apple has made no references to a new hardware revision, we feel the timing of the iPhone 3.0 operating system due out this summer provides Apple an easy way to introduce a major hardware revision at the same time.

As a result, it wouldn't surprise us that this "Video Upload" screen was misplaced rather than mistyped.


..........well? Anybody else want to live in the Matrix and pretend the next-gen iPhone is not coming this summer?
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post Mar 20 2009, 01:39 AM

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Good to see someone with a common sense here. Reality is a nice place to keep our feet on. Denial though, can be an ugly thing. I've been saying that it is coming, but naysayers here want to protect their beloved investment in their iPhones and in their perfect world, the product cycle of an iPhone starts the day they buy their iPhones, not when Apple introduced it, like it should be.


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More websites picking up what iClarified website is reporting about the next-gen iPhone, this time with analysis:-

http://i.gizmodo.com/5175348/iphone-30-os-...ysterious-iprod

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A quick rundown on Apple model naming conventions. The original iPhone is known as iPhone1,1 and the iPhone 3G is iPhone1,2. The first number refers to the overarching model, so when it changes, it indicates a a genuinely new product, not simply a bump in storage capacity (or even the mere addition of 3G). So that the models referenced in the iPhone 3.0's OS are iPhone3,1; iPod3,1; iFPGA; and iProd0,1 is is worth noting—we're talking significant hardware updates to the iPhone and iPod touch worthy of a new model number.


......Cry? icon_rolleyes.gif
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http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comm...-future-iphone/

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iPhone OS 3.0 hints at video-recording future iPhone

By Charles Starrett
Senior Editor, iLounge
Published: Thursday, March 19, 2009
News Category: iPhone


New screenshots taken from the beta release of iPhone OS 3.0 suggest that Apple may be planning to add video-recording functionality to current or possibly future iPhone models. Engadget Mobile reports that a “Publish Video” screen appears when attempting to publish a still image to MobileMe, prompting users to enter a title and optional description. Given that Apple did not mention video recording as a new feature of iPhone OS 3.0, the appearance of this menu suggests the feature may be planned for future iPhone and/or iPod touch hardware; it is also possible, but unlikely, that the text is simply a typo.
All these info pointing towards the "next-gen" iPhone, goes "nicely" with this music video. Suck that lemonade!


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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Mar 20 2009, 03:10 AM)
ahaha string why are ya rubbing it in onto the iphone users!! give them some sympathy!

well there are already some spy shots of the up and coming iphone its on macrumors as well!
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I dont mind, and in fact I totally agree with you on being neutral on this issue, but denial of not seeing a new iPhone (new here meaning a cosmetic, processor change, or total hardware revamp) because they have just recently purchase their iPhones and not wanting to see their iPhone purchases being obsolete this June/July, irks me to no end.

Guess what? My 8-months-old Aifontriji will be obsolete as well this June/July, but you dont see me denying the emergence of a new, next-gen iPhone. That is part and parcel of technology. The rubbing-in as you so eloquently put, are targeted at those in denial, not those who kept things in check-and-balance.

These rub-ins are also targeted towards the new, naive, fledgling of an iPhone user(s) who have no clue whatsoever on how Apple refreshes their product. Unlike their previous crappy Nokias or SE which refreshes practically every months with minor hardware upgrades and product number recycles(N93 to N93i? Plllleeeeeeezzzee!), Apple takes pride in the longevity of their product and keep bringing refreshes to the table to keep the product fresh.

What also a lot of newbies here dont realise is how Apple approaches a product refresh. Remember the first iPhone EDGE? AT&T ties up tons of iPhone EDGE subscribers for 2 years with their contract plans, and these plans are about to expire. What's the pull for these subscribers to renew their contracts with AT&T(and in turn, Apple as well, since Apple retains a portion of profit margin from their tie-up with their chosen telco), if the product remains stale, with no new upgrades after their 2 year contract expires? An impending product refresh, my dear ignorant newbies!

This creates a spillover effect where other regions also receive these new hardware upgrades/product refresh in terms of better hardware and feature set. We are enormously lucky that Apple chooses this roadmap to refresh their product, as it creates milestones and timeline where a new refresh can easily be tracked and projected, hence helping those who are in the process of getting an iPhone, know EXACTLY where in that product refresh period they are in now, and should or should they not upgrade based on that information.

It is nothing complicated, it is not rocket science. It is purely keeping up with the inside info, and a bit of common sense. Tear away from that archaic, old-fashioned mindset you once subscribed to when you had your Nokias and SE phones, they are not applicable once you moved on to Apple's own roadmap.

So, with that, my little "sweeties", listen to Planet Funk and "Suck your lemonade!"
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post Mar 20 2009, 07:54 PM

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Your officially unlockes Iphone3G is worth more than just RM1,300. Dont be surprised if it fetches RM2,000 or more.

Locked ones, are of course, not that worthwhile in terms of secondhand value.
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post Mar 21 2009, 01:24 AM

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Next-generation iPhone to have faster internet speeds?

You see, when news like this are being picked up, the subject in focus usually isn't that far behind for launch. But hey, pessimist away!
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Mar 22 2009, 11:48 AM)
something to ponder upon perhaps?

if i can add my humble thought, this is probably a genius way by at & t to get rid of "old" stocks in line for the upcoming OS 3.0 (and also *cough cough stringfellow's theory cough cough*)
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What to do, people are brought up skeptical these days. Oy vey....
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Not true. They will discontinue the product, but the remainder of the stock remains available for sale, until the numbers are depleted.

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