QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Apr 1 2009, 08:45 PM)
Sometimes I find apple frustrating. Every year they'll just release something new making the older products slightly obsolete. Assuming you get the not-yet-announced new gen iphone, how long will it be till yours is outdated as well? =.="
But for now I'm already very satisfied with my current iphone 3g.. it's got almost all the functions I require and with the upcoming 3.0 I don't think this phone lacks anything else except for video recording (which I believe is not a hardware limitation.. apple should be able to release an app or fix for it right?).
QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Apr 2 2009, 08:46 PM)
Compare your own statements above and tell me you referred to hardware changes, hence the "frustrated" and "obsolete" remark from the first quoted post. Now, on your second post, you backpedalled and talk about software upgrades instead of the point you brought in the first post. Clarity avoids confusion, and in these two posts, your posts are as clear as Klang river, if you want to play the hardware/software card here.
Let's analyze further.
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I BELIEVE (note: I BELIEVE BUT I MAY BE WRONG. experience tells me to be careful with people like you because you pick on one's choice of words) apple have the technology to embed most of the features which users are looking for nowadays such as a 2nd camera or so but why wouldn't they?
My statement STANDS. Perhaps you need to UPDATE yourself on how Apple operate and in which environment their product are targeted at. There is no other reason here to add a 2nd camera other than video-call via 3G, so that has to be the reason you're griping here. I'll explain here as gently as I can so that you dont feel offended like you had before. Apple is an American company operating and releasing products catering firstly for the American public, and later for the rest of the world. Their products are closely tailored for the American public and their general trends. 2nd camera, and by that effect, video-calling via 3G, is not a popular and widely used feature by the Americans. Here in Malaysia, and the rest of Asia, and Europe, we tout, and brag about video calls, and to a certain extent, treat it as a norm and expects it in our next anticipated launch of a new phone. Apple cares less about how video-calls are a norm here, they are primarily an American company, whose objective is to be relevant to the American public first. Hence the non-inclusion of the 2nd camera. Capishe?
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The 3.0 update with copy and paste, mms, etc etc.., even kevin rose questioned during the diggit (or some conference which has something to do with digg) conference on how come apple didn't think of putting it earlier on and waited?
Do you want a reliable, stable product? Or do you want half-assed features just for the sake of saying that "Hey, look! We have cut, copy and paste, MMS, etc" but works some of the time, and not all the time? Apple took their time with these so that we wont have whining noobs complaining about how crappy these new features are especially when they dont work properly. I certainly dont want Apple to turn into another Microsoft. I'd rather let them get things right and stays right, than release half-assed feature that does not work most of the time.
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All I'm saying is that I would prefer if apple give us the updates sooner rather than releasing them in such small batches like that. So why give such personal-attack like replies towards my opinions? Have I insulted you? Or am I just too stupid to understand a godly knowledgeable person like you?
And all I'm saying is BE PATIENT! Rushing things would only lead to cutting corners and lowered standards of Quality Control, which is already rearing its ugly head because Apple sometimes buckle under the demands of newcomers and newbies who dont understand how Apple works.
What personal attacks again? Did I call you names? My gripe with you stems from this previous post of yours, and I quote:-
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Sometimes I find apple frustrating. Every year they'll just release something new making the older products slightly obsolete. Assuming you get the not-yet-announced new gen iphone, how long will it be till yours is outdated as well? =.="
Let's ask other and see what they understand from this statements. But from what I understand:-
You are frustrated that Apple releases "something new" (my impression here, you mean a new iPhone), making the old version slightly obsolete. My counterpoint is, why the frustration? Time and technology waits for no man, nor should it wait for on-the-fence crowd or those who chose to wait-and-see. You chose to wait and see, while others BELIEVE in Apple's vision and went ahead and used and enjoyed their iPhone purchases. Who is to be blamed here? Apple? Or is it THOSE PEOPLE (I dont want to say YOU, because I dont know when you chose to take the plunge and buy one) who dilly-dally and waited until they finally decided to buy the iPhone, but only have a short time to enjoy before the new model makes their current model obsolete. It is not Apple's fault that THOSE PEOPLE chose to buy late into the product cycle, NOR should Apple WAIT for THOSE PEOPLE to have their feeling of satisfaction of purchasing, before launching a new model. It is THEIR fault that they are late, and Apple should carry on with their product roadmap, irregardless of how whiny THOSE PEOPLE are and feel about their short-lived purchases.
The rest of my response directly suggest how to alleviate this feeling of frustration of the obsolence of your newly purchase iPhone so late in the product cycle. I suggested buying early so that you feel that you have made full use of the product. I suggested reading up and WAITING for the next cycle so that you end up with brand new shiny product than buying an old model and obsolete a few months later.
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But for now I'm already very satisfied with my current iphone 3g.. it's got almost all the functions I require and with the upcoming 3.0 I don't think this phone lacks anything else except for video recording (which I believe is not a hardware limitation.. apple should be able to release an app or fix for it right?).
this is the second part of your post that I responded to, and in turn, you feel miffed and thought it is a personal attack on you. Like you said, it is a personal opinion, I respect that. But never ever assume what is enough, or satisfactory to you, is good enough for others. You mention video recording. My statement stands again, perhaps you need to UPDATE yourself on what is capable in terms of video recording resolution and framerates, and what is not. The resolution of 388 x 288 and
up to 15fps, is so pathetic, that even the Nokia fanboys would laugh in your face should you consider it usable on your iPhone. Just because you can do so, does not mean that it is ratifiably acceptable by Apple's standards. Remember what I said about how Apple does things? They do things RIGHT or they dont do it at all. The Nokia fanboys would be spitting in our faces with their 640 x 480, 30fps video recordings compared to those pathetic resolutions/framerates. So again, I ask, just because you can have these below-par recording, does that mean that Apple should make it available? Your standards may accept that these are okay, but Apple being Apple, I doubt these standards would cut it for them. Hence the need for new hardware. But again, newer hardware frustrates you as you mentioned above, and it now goes back to the first part of that post of your , which I have addressed above.
In short:-
1. Late buyers should realize that they are late in buying into the product cycle and ACCEPT the FACT that their purchase will be short-lived, obsolete and dated very soon. No amount of whining, or FRUSTRATION will keep Apple from following through with their product releases.
2. Time and tech waits for no man. Get with it, or get off and stay with a product that suits your need. But once you get off, you are not entitled to complain about the pace of how things are going, since you have accepted the fact that you cant keep up with it.
3. Adding features to a presently available product can only go so much. Early adopters bought that product on the promise that their time with that product will allow them to be satisfied with the experience using that said product. Late adopters have no rights stalling product updates just because they are either undecided on the purchase, ignorant about the product cycle, or restricted in terms of monetary budget.
I'm surprised that these attitude towards technology exists in a tech-related forum like this. You should be embracing change and the pace of change of technology, not stall it for your own personal convenience.
This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 3 2009, 12:18 AM 
Mar 13 2009, 02:05 AM, updated 17y ago
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another firmware update.. so? 
... man.. when was their last major revision of their OS? a gazillion years ago?
yeah man!!!! i just realized THAT! 
Totally agreed! I am saving money now for any possible new iPhone coming July.
), u'll get 6.5 upgrade", of which the software alone isnt the selling point of the device.
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