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 iPhone OS 3.0(OUT NOW!) + iPhone 3GS(Late July?), Apple Store Italy sells 3G[S] UNLOCKED!

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TSstringfellow
post Jun 12 2009, 06:12 AM

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How to buy contract-less iPhone 3G/3G[S] for USD499/599/699 on Apple.com

Someone found a way to do just that on the US online Apple Store page. Apple would probably close that loophole down, but that price point would probably give insights on how much the new iPhones will be priced, tier-wise.

iPhone 3G 8GB ($499): MB046LL/A
iPhone 3GS 16GB Black ($599): MB715LL/A
iPhone 3GS 16GB White ($599): MB716LL/A
iPhone 3GS 32GB Black ($699): MB717LL/A
iPhone 3GS 32GB White ($699): MB718LL/A

Converted to RM@ USD1 = RM3.7, AND remember to add 30% for tax/Apple tax/Malaysian-stupid-crappy-kastam-pun-mau-makan-tax:-

iPhone 3G 8GB ($499): MB046LL/A = RM2,400
iPhone 3GS 16GB Black ($599): MB715LL/A = RM2,880
iPhone 3GS 16GB White ($599): MB716LL/A = RM2,880
iPhone 3GS 32GB Black ($699): MB717LL/A = RM3,360
iPhone 3GS 32GB White ($699): MB718LL/A = RM3,360

This could probably the "buy outright" price from Maxis, but will definitely be subsidized cheaper for clients with 12/24 months contracts.
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post Jun 12 2009, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jun 12 2009, 03:33 PM)
If you look at maxis pricing for the phone package, 16GB is priced at RM2960 and RM2540 for the 8GB, how can the new phone be less than that?

What string did is a direct conversion from apple US price. It's just to be a guideline on the pricing. It can be that price, lower or higher than that. So it goes back to "need" or "want" to justify your purchase of that phone.

For me it's more to both "need" and "want". Hahahahahaha
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That's direct conversion PLUS 30%. With that figure, it gives a fairly accurate estimate of the price without contract.
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post Jun 12 2009, 05:26 PM

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That RM3,000+ price is the price of the iPhone without subsidization. Your "Maxis Offer" iPhone would definitely inflate to its original price without tying a contract to it.

Watch Maxis play around with the pricetag once they pegged you with a 12/24 months contract.

Then again, like I said before, people will say anything when they already made up their mind to justify their purchase/or refusal or purchase. Those who had already made their mind getting one have their own justification to suit theirs as well.

And don't get me started on the Windows Mobile offerings. The spillover effect from the "robustness" (read: hit reset button once a day) of WM brought the crowd that wants things that just work over to the iPhone platform.

So please, let's wait for the actual pricing to come out and pipe down on the price speculations. I know I did not help when I posted those tiered price points, but I just wanted to get the folks here ready with the expected price range.

My options are even crazier: T-Mobile Netherlands at EU699, Mobistar Belgium at EU619, or wait for Maxis's own announcement. Only Mobistar Belgium looks promising with its no-locked-phones policy there. I could take a flight down to Rome, and find TIM's or Vodafone's 3G[S], but with my short stay in Amsterdam, that is looking more impossible than ever.

Let's wait, shall we? Before we suppose and conclude things that aren't concrete. Myself included.
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post Jun 12 2009, 05:31 PM

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Why again, would you want to wait for the CD for the firmware upgrade, when you can just plug it into iTunes and do it from there? rclxub.gif

It's not like it is a one-off firmware upgrade and that's it. Apple may even introduce 3.01 a week or two after 3.0 comes out for minor bug-fixing. You end up having to download it again, through iTunes.


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post Jun 12 2009, 06:31 PM

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For crying out loud!

Where have you been getting your firmware updates from for you iPhone? Your local cellphone vendor? doh.gif

Of course lah iTunes! Adoi!
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post Jun 12 2009, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(supermassive @ Jun 12 2009, 06:32 PM)
i think Maxis trying to give a little more by doing little little things, well its part of client service dude. I certainly dont think its a waste of resource from my side. After all Malaysia mah, already kena wasted so much
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Redundant. If Apple updates the firmware to 3.0.1 the next day, your "Maxis-trying-to-do-a-little-more" CD can throw in the trash already.
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post Jun 12 2009, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(supermassive @ Jun 12 2009, 06:39 PM)
Give free complain pulak, put it this way the cd is for those who uses internet minimal, and does not have time to spend to wait for the download, although its just 1 hour.

If u dont want the cd then just give it to someone else, the cd can help those who dont have long hours of internet time to download.
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What if Apple releases 3.0.1 the day after? That CD can become your glass coaster already.

The point is, Apple chose digital delivery as its mode of transport for the firmware upgrades. Tak payah la pandai2 Maxis nak tukar that mode of transport to physical disc pulak! Are Malaysians that archaic and dumb that only by physically seeing the disc that they will see that Maxis is doing its job provided aftersale support? shakehead.gif

Also, what Maxis has on their disc may not be latest up-to-date version of the 3.0 firmware. Firmware have many different builds, and these builds are updated to the very last minute. The advantage of digital delivery via iTunes is that, they can easily swap the latest build of the 3.0 firmware into the system. Maxis discs may hold the redundant build of the 3.0 firmware, and users STILL have to resort to iTunes to download the latest build of the 3.0 firmware.

It is not about the ease of "give free complain pulak", it is about logical and common sense on why Apple do it via iTunes. This is not Maxis's iPhone, it is Apple, and they alone provide the underlying OS for the unit.

EDIt: I'll stop this "Redundant" issue here, to respect DG's wishes.

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post Jun 12 2009, 08:21 PM

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Wrong thread. Please head to the Jailbreaking section for this. Short answer is no.
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post Jun 12 2009, 09:06 PM

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Thanks guys for the explanation. I could not have said it better. Nor to I have the patience anymore to entertain questions like these.

To the rest, please keep on topic. If you wanna post queries, go right ahead but post them at the right thread. I'd like if I can to keep this thread concisely on the thread title topics only. Thank you.

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post Jun 12 2009, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jun 12 2009, 09:11 PM)
Looking at your signature stringfellow, have anyone mention that in OS 3.0 when you tap on the blue dot that shows your current location and it will also show the exact accurate address of your location.
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laugh.gif if you meant "Newport Beach" on my sig, that's a very generalized area of where my place is at. If you meant the lat/long on my profile, I've disinclined to post the exact location of by place too. The Hendersons are probably wondering why their home is pinpointed on the Google Maps and inquired by strangers. tongue.gif

Also this just in. Maxis Team Kiwi just met with Apple last Monday, and judging from previous negotiations, it took 3 weeks before Maxis comes up with their pricing. So we are probably looking at 25/26th June for them to announce the pricing. Which brings me to my next dilemma: Netherlands T-Mobile? Belgium Mobistar? Australian 3GS? Or wait for Maxis' still indefinite "July '09" launch date? rclxub.gif

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post Jun 13 2009, 05:35 AM

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QUOTE(al3p @ Jun 13 2009, 02:25 AM)
Just wondering, is there anyone here already install and test OS 3.0GM. I need some feedback to compare on how well the tethering work in Malaysia. Seem a bit complicated to work out the tethering over here. sigh
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It is a bit unwise to do that when the official release is close. If it is that enticing, perhaps you could lead the way and install them yourself and tell us how it works? IIANM, tethering requires the Pre-Released 8.1 version of iTunes as well as the .icpp file for carrier information. I may be wrong on this, but I distinctly remember reading about it.

On a totally unrelated note,
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You can't see me now, but it certainly is weird smiling ear-to-ear at 05:35 in the wee hours of the morning. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 13 2009, 12:35 PM

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There are 2 things at work here.

A. The iPhone 3 OS GM activates on any iPhone as long as it is a legit iPhone.  (Not SIM unlocked and working on Tmobile in the US or Vodafone in the UK for example).  If you are using your iPhone on AT&T in the US, it unlocks without issue.  When you go to iPhone 3 you lose your abiity to Jailbreak (for the moment).  More information on this here.

B. The first iTunes 8.2 Pre-release (not the second) allows you to upload carrier .ipcc files directly to your iPhone which enables tethering AND puts your carrier settings on the iPhone.  This was a huge mistake (or was it?...hmm) from Apple because with this version of iTunes you can turn any iPhone into a tether iPhone without permission from the carrier.

This works.  It has been tried a number of times on a few different iPhones.  Here's the easiest way to do this:

1. You probably already have iTunes 8.2 final on your machine.  No problem.  Update your iPhone to 3 GM like so.
2. Now you have to download the 8.2 pre-release 1. We can't tell you how to do this but we're sure you'll get some help in the comment threads. You'll also need to get the carrier settings file from this application (UPDATE: Commenters are saying this one works better for AT&T)..  Most international carriers are supported.
Once you have iTunes pre-release1 , you'll need to completely uninstall iTunes 8.2 before installing the pre-release.
3. Completely Uninstall iTunes 8.2 Final by:
A. Trashing the iTunes.app application from your applications folder
B. Kill the iTunes Helper process in Activity Monitor.app
C. Go into your ~/Library folder and delete all of your iTunes plists and folders.  Alternatively, you can just create a new user account on your Mac and install it from there.
D. Empty trash
4. Install iTunes 8.2 Pre-Release.  Plug in your iPhone 3.0 and go to iTunes, go to the Summary page
5. Option-Click on Restore and browse to the AT&T.ipcc file you extracted from the iPhoneTether.app before (or here from AT&T).

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6. Click open and you should only have to wait a few seconds while you see this:

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7. Once that is complete, go to your iPhone/Settings/General/Network and you should see a new option about 1/2 way down called "Internet Tethering".  Click "on".  Instructions will be below.
8. Once enabled, your Mac should pop up a notification:

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That's it.  You should be tethering, free of (additional) charge on your unlimited iPhone plan.  As far as we can tell, so long as you don't update your iPhone or iTunes, you should be able to continue.

By the way, AT&T doesn't allow apps like Sling because it considers the iPhone a computer and it falls under those terms of service - which is already a tethering plan.  If that is the case, then there shouldn't be additional charge for using your unlimited plan with a computer.


All credit goes to 9to5mac.com
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post Jun 17 2009, 09:49 AM

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I'm just going through a personal regression mood now, that I cant seem to source out a way to get the 3G[S] as early as I wish it to be. NZ launching the same as Malaysia (which is as vague as "July '09"), and dilemmas as for from where I can get them coming June 26th.

Can those countries from the third wave (July '09) get off their collective asses and put a firm date on WHEN on July this is going to happen? vmad.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:26 AM

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The countries on the third wave would probably launch simultaneously with each other, but when that date is, remains up in the air.

My only bloody gripe with getting one from Australia is the fact that I had to wait it out to get the unlock within Australian coverage (stay inside Australia), when my nightstops are pretty tight to begin with. The best chance I can have would be the KUL-SYD-BNE trip but God knows when I'm gonna get that again.

Damn this all to hell! sad.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:32 AM

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No. The days of taking leaps of faiths for me are over. The last time I took chances was for the iPhone EDGE, and I was extremely lucky that the unlocks were available 3 days later.

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Apple scrambling to counter Dev Team?

Thanks to Psyeo for the first heads-up, it is just this paragraph piques my interest:-

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There were some links floating around the internet to a direct image of the new OS, though the fact that they have swiftly disappeared would seem to indicate Apple is spending the day making some last-minute modifications to the OS before tomorrow's release.
If your Maxis CD contains this old OS, and Apple is yanking it out to counter Dev Team's ultrasn0w efforts, you can throw that CD in the dustbin already for being an outdated version of OS 3.0. THIS is the reason why I said it before, and I'll say it again, that is it a ridiculously senseless move by Maxis to send the firmware update via CDs, because the nature of the cat-and-mouse game between Apple and the Dev Team prompts the dynamically changing nature of the firmware updates.

Next time, think and listen. It is not just because it is logical and easier to distribute the firmware update digitally, but also because there are other reasons. If this is true, Maxis' supposedly attempt at trying to look like they are providing technical support for the distribution of the new firmware, already makes them fall flat on their face. Understand?

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post Jun 17 2009, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 17 2009, 06:44 PM)
to hell man! why do you care so much? it is free what? people give you free stuff, just diam diam and keep it to yourself la
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so says the typical anything-free-grabbing typical Malaysian.

On a related note, my contact in Maxis just chimed in. Maxis, as expected, is stretching the 3G[S] launch till late July/early August. Price indicator? 16GB 3G[S] = current 16GB 3G.

That is it, I am scrambling my own plan. Maxis, you had your shot, but you just had to prolong the wait. I am not inclined to wait any longer.

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post Jun 17 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(supermassive @ Jun 17 2009, 06:51 PM)
Complaining here isnt the solution dude. Chill ~
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Just addressing Maxis's futile and pathetic attempt to try and look like they are providing support, when in actual fact they are not. Their line of thought is archaic and old-fashioned to say the least. My own brother faced the brunt of my chiding, he's in Maxis, and he is particularly embarassed at how his company handles after-sale support. Firmware updates via CDs? This is not Windows Mobile we are dealing with! laugh.gif

His embarassment for Maxis extended so far that his own iPhone 3G unit is not from Maxis, his was the unit I bought for him from Auckland. A Maxis employee with his iPhone NOT from Maxis. What does that indicate I wonder?
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post Jun 17 2009, 07:19 PM

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Psyeo bro, I believe that was the core of the issue of that article. It is just my look into the article that it suggest Apple, after that live demo of ultrasn0w, may look into the possibility, although this late, of replacing that firmware cracked by the Dev Team, with a fresh new one, just to deter them further.

That is the beauty of digital distribution. One single click of a button and you can distribute a wholly different content altogether. Unless those Maxis CDs are on rewritables and they can scramble this late in the game rewriting it back into those CDs, they are coasters generally speaking, and obsolete by definition already.
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post Jun 18 2009, 12:24 AM

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Everybody calm down. I know we are all a bit excited, a bit tense on the seemingly long wait, but we dont have to bite each other's heads off because of the tension.

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Relax......


I'm not sure if this has been posted, but from the Optus email I've just received, the filesize of the OS3.0 clocks in at 301MB. Other sites reports 250MB. Hmmmm...we'll see.

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