its not angry bro, its just irritated by it... because it has been answered many time and with a lot of reading those simple question can be found easily..

so far there is no price for iphone 3G and 3GS without contract posted by AT&T and I ( at least for me) can't answer for the time being.and im pretty sure others can't answer it too.

haha, yes it seems others also feel like what here in lowyat felt. when i read it i was smile and laugh a bit because old memories regarding this matter coming back to my mind.

take your time read here bro http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/984406

and the answer is no because it will be locked to AT&T carrier with 2 year contract, and you cannot simply buy it because in order to buy it must have U.S Valid address.

i believe that keyboard is a special keyboard work with that app, if you sms email note etc the keyboard is standard keyboard. and also for that app, if you want to write something i also believe it will shows standard iphone keyboard.

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Added on June 9, 2009, 11:32 pmas for altered through app store, im not sure but maybe if there is someone make the software and put it into app store or cydia then it can be altered. but i dont think apple wpuld do that.

This post has been edited by TakanoKyohei: Jun 9 2009, 11:32 PM

i believe it can be jailbreak, we just need to wait the software release in order to jailbreak it. since beta version can be jailbreak i believe official os3.0 also can be jailbreak. look up at dev team page for more info.

it is say it not use any developer UIID but once you install it you cant install the public release this 17 june, because your iphone will tend to lock with dev account base on your serial number. i myself not quiet sure bout this but the OS you mention is the master/gold/final BETA series of OS3.

my advice is that better dont need to restore it because afraid of locked into installing official public release of OS3.






OMG, This want me to buy it because i dont have any digital camera so i prefer camera on my iphone, can take a picture,send via facebook, email etc...

urmmm.... i cant take it anymore, i want to get 1 of this I3GS.

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This post has been edited by TakanoKyohei: Jun 10 2009, 07:35 PM

i will probably will go. or maybe will ask my brother to buy it from oversea since he always outstation...

oh, thanks for the info. and if apple really not lock us from using it i maybe gatai tangan want to install it. . .


em bro, try to dig more and more importantly try to verify it is really apple will lock from update/restore to new firmware.

cheers.
Taka.

first, welcome to lowyat forum..

second

read Here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281


and Here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/871684


Happy reading and enjoys being here.

there something make sense when iphone 3GS will be release on 19 June and OS3 will be release on 17June. it is because apple want to release OS3 that for iPhone 3G where there will be no official video recording(they disable it on OS3 for iphone 3G) then when iphone 3GS release the OS3 for it its somehow different from OS3 for iphone 3G.

i just state it because from apple website there is no official video recording for I3G and have video Recording for I3GS...

just my concern.

when i was surfing regarding the spec of iphone 3G and iphone 3GS i saw this link where they have check the proc of iphone 3GS etc..
see the different between those 2 proc.




i'm not sure how reliable but its from anandTech Site.

Here Is the Link.

em, it seems it stil use arm11 proc but with add on thingy.

in order for you to unlock the locked phone(at&t for example) you need to install small app called yellosn0w and it works only on baseband 2.28.00 and it's only available on firmware 2.2. if the phone have baseband 2.30.00( from firmware 2.2.1) you cant use yellowsn0w and it cannot be use with other sim card except valid simcard( in a case of At7&)...That's the first answer of "why it says we have to be alert from buying a locked phone?"

the answer for second question is that, as long as the phone is on baseband 2.28.00 you can use/unlock with yellowsn0w and if on baseband 2.30.00 it cant be use. baseband cant be downgrade unless you have bootloader 5.08 in your iphone... so the answer is, not all phone can be unlock except the phone with that specification.( i think this part hard to unsderstand.)

try to read and understand more and once you understand it, it will likely very easy for you..


p/s: i was once like you but i spend hours and hours to read and understand it. hope it will be the same with you...

cheers:

Taka.

This post has been edited by TakanoKyohei: Jun 10 2009, 11:08 PM

yes, just like bro nokia mention it. there is a serial number telling what week and year it have been build. so far as far as i know all iphone that build last year was below 2.2.1 and it will be on 2.28.00 baseband, and around week 6 in year 2009 all iphone 3G have been pre-loaded with firmware 2.2.1 and baseband 2.30.00...and now all new iphone conform have baseband 2.30.00 and firmware 2.2.1..you can check the serial number and which digit stand for year produced and week produce..google more info on how to check it..

erk, i dont have any link, hehe sorry, it is because from my experience on unlocking iphone for my brother and his friends, my brother is KLIA cabin crew so he usually buy iphone from UK, and my experience only base around 4~6 iphone 3G that i have unlock with yellowsn0w and some of my brother friend who also ask me to upgrade firmware and unlock it.

i usually see their production number and all iphone around year 2008 will be maximum on 2.2 firmware and the baseband will below 2.28.00 and some of the phone that early january( between week 1 to week 5 of 2009) also have 2.2 firmware. And it was on valentine day ( week 06) 2009 my brother buy another 8gb 3GB iphone and its preloaded with firmware 2.2.1 baseband 2.30.00.. . he still buy 2 more( after a month, around may) and still have same firmware, i check the serial number and i saw after week 6 of 2009 ( around 14hb of february) the firmware was preloaded with 2.2.1 and as a result all 3 of my brother friend have to use turbo sim in order for them to make a call etc..

im not sure about others country locked phone but then phone i was mention is from UK and the phone my brother bought is PAYG iphone.

regarding apple refresh all firmware into 2.2.1 without see its week production or not im not sure because usually when 1 product is build up, they will be preloaded with the latest firmware and firmware 2.2.1 was publish/release end of jan so all iphone that come out from factory will be preloaded with firmware 2.2.1...( i believe only the iphone that have preloaded with firmware 2.2.1 and its week production around 2008 then i think it was refurbish unit< -- please someone if im wrong in here, please correct me)

"care to show me the way to determine the firmware on 3G iphones?"

and..urmm.. i afraid i can't answer that but from my understanding in reading serial number, digit 3 is for the year production and digit 4 and 5 is week production.

example.

Serial number: XB739XXTWXN
the 3rd digit represents the year ie 7 for 2007
the 4th & 5th represent the week ie 39 for week 39

all the rest indicate the factory, or whether it's a refurb, etc.

as for my iphone is:

85835xxxxxx where i buy my iphone last year early october( before hari raya) and i know that my iphone is new base on itt week number.


cheers
taka.

yup, it use arm+ vortex core A8 as its proc. read here for me info.


http://anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3579&p=1


here is the spec of the proc.

em, sorry for misleading and raw info i made and put it in here and thanks for agreeing with the issue of iphone that produce after week 6 is preloaded with 2.2.1.



This post has been edited by TakanoKyohei: Jun 11 2009, 01:51 AM

we don't know about that but i think there should be, or maybe new plan offered by maxis for iPhone 3G[S].



nope, it still not coming from app store and i think we should wait then we will know the price..
p/s: i also want to buy it for my iphone. . no need to buy stand alone GPS module anymore.

of course I3GS is similar to I3G, its just the spec inside the phone difference. with more ram and high proc plus compass. other than that was same.

i have been thinking day by day until 3GS will be release, i also first time don't want to upgrade because i think it should be ok with 3G i use, but the more i think about it( faster proc,more ram, auto focus etc) the more i want to get this phone, and might considered myself to tight a contract with maxis since i can get it locally and i still use maxis as my provider.

i always with my iphone 24/7 and with the upgrade of 3GS i can do more,that's why i think its better for me to get those phone when it release here..

just like bro string said, people say they dont want to, not worth upgrading but deep inside you want it. Just like me! haha..

to tell you the truth, it depends on the person it self, if he/she willing to spend money to get the iphone then it will, its true that the phone is expensive because of the technology inside it, and people will buy it eventhough its so expensive.