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 iPhone OS 3.0(OUT NOW!) + iPhone 3GS(Late July?), Apple Store Italy sells 3G[S] UNLOCKED!

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davidgary73
post Jun 10 2009, 08:02 PM

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3.0GM - Dont upgrade yet
Author: BigBoss // Category: Jailbreak

Yes, 3.0 GM is released to developers. This is the final 3.0 release. There is no jailbreak for it at this time. Do not yet upgrade. There are rumors of people using the 3.0 b5 jailbreak tools. This is a terrible idea. It will replace most your 3.0GM with B5 components. You will not have a real 3.0 final any longer, instead you will have a hybrid 3.0 and beta 5. It’s a terrible idea. Next week when beta 5 expires, your 3.0 jailbreak could expire as well and you would have to restore all over again.Yes, some people may claim that they did this and “it works fine”. But as I just stated, it is not a real 3.0 final any longer. Definitely not a good idea nor is this something you want.

Just wait a few days and you should be ok.

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It does not matter if it's a GOLD, Platinum etc. It's better/safer to wait for the official release from Apple.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Jun 10 2009, 08:04 PM
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(mONSTers @ Jun 10 2009, 07:49 PM)
to clear misunderstanding, in software release life cycle Gold also means Production or Live release of the final version of the product. It's not Beta.

"The production, live version is the final version of a particular product. It is typically almost identical to the final release candidate, with only last-minute bugs fixed. A live release is considered to be very stable and relatively bug-free with a quality suitable for wide distribution and use by end users. In commercial software releases, this version may also be signed (used to allow end-users to verify that code has not been modified since the release). The expression that a software product "has gone live" means that the code has been completed and is ready for distribution. Other terms for the live version include: live master, live release, or live build. In some areas of software development the live release is referred to as a gold release; this seems to be confined mainly to game software."

Refer here: wiki

and Apple never never mentioned that it will lock u out from the future commercial release but instead you cant restore to the earlier released of iPhone OS.
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oh, thanks for the info.smile.gif and if apple really not lock us from using it i maybe gatai tangan want to install it. . . icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jun 10 2009, 07:58 PM)
It's Gold Master release and i've read somewhere that before you installed the 3.0 GM, there's a new disclaimer/agreement saying that you will not able to use the Live release.

I'll try to dig it up the source again. This is how they try to fend users thats not dev from using the GM. The JB for beta5 can be use but BigBoss have warned users not to use it as it will replace the final release file with the beta 5 files and you'll have a hybrid of 3.0 GM+beta 5. It might cause some issues later.
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em bro, try to dig more and more importantly try to verify it is really apple will lock from update/restore to new firmware.smile.gif

cheers.
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:22 PM

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Hi all, I'm thinking to own a iphone but I'm actually a newbie in IT.. There are some questions that I wish someone could help me out..

1. What is the different between Unlocked and normal iphone.. I mean unlocked from what?

2. I heard that there was a new feature on iphone 3Gs ''copy and paste'' what is it means?

3. I notice that the price in USA is only USD199 for 16GB,is it come with conditions?
4. If i buy the phone straightly from USA will it able to use in malaysia?

Thanks a lot~
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:23 PM

wat??
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read alot from other forum out there. they managed to revert back to 2.2.1 after installed the 3.0 GM build, just the baseband still 3.0 lah. So dun worry.

For those who has a iphone that officially unlock like singtel unit safe to update it. and you just need to jailbreak only. quickpwn had released a jailbreak for beta 5 which ppl used it to jailbreak the GM build. I myself havent tested it probably you can search more about it.
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:24 PM

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btw...anything (installing the 3.0 GM) is done at your own risk. smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:26 PM

wat??
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QUOTE(Oris @ Jun 10 2009, 08:22 PM)
Hi all, I'm thinking to own a iphone but I'm actually a newbie in IT.. There are some questions that I wish someone could help me out..

1. What is the different between Unlocked and normal iphone.. I mean unlocked from what?

2. I heard that there was a new feature on iphone 3Gs ''copy and paste'' what is it means?

3. I notice that the price in USA is only USD199 for 16GB,is it come with conditions?
4. If i buy the phone straightly from USA will it able to use in malaysia?

Thanks a lot~
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1. locked meaning u need to sign a contract with service provider like AT&T. If malaysia Maxis and Singtel sold ones as far as i knew all is oficial unlocked whioch means u can use it with any carier provider. Locked phone meaning u cant do anything, just can make emergencies call.

2. copy and paste is a feature in iphone OS 3.0 . All iphone will have that once upgrade to 3.0 later this month.

3. Depends, if its a official unlocked yes. Else, make sure its 2.2.1 OS version you may use Quickpwn or Pwnage tool to unlock it. USD199 or 299$ those need to sign contract with AT&T.

Added on June 10, 2009, 8:27 pm
QUOTE(mONSTers @ Jun 10 2009, 08:24 PM)
btw...anything (installing the 3.0 GM) is done at your own risk. smile.gif
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YUP tongue.gif

and yah.. you don't need a dev account to use the GM build. Confirmed. just make sure u're using Official unlocked unit. wink.gif

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post Jun 10 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Oris @ Jun 10 2009, 08:22 PM)
Hi all, I'm thinking to own a iphone but I'm actually a newbie in IT.. There are some questions that I wish someone could help me out..

1. What is the different between Unlocked and normal iphone.. I mean unlocked from what?

2. I heard that there was a new feature on iphone 3Gs ''copy and paste'' what is it means?

3. I notice that the price in USA is only USD199 for 16GB,is it come with conditions?
4. If i buy the phone straightly from USA will it able to use in malaysia?

Thanks a lot~
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first, welcome to lowyat forum.. icon_rolleyes.gif

second

read Here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281


and Here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/871684


Happy reading and enjoys being here.smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:33 PM

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thanks TakanoKyohei
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post Jun 10 2009, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Jun 10 2009, 08:02 PM)
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Just wait a few days and you should be ok.
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It does not matter if it's a GOLD, Platinum etc. It's better/safer to wait for the official release from Apple.
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Ya just wait lar... around one week only. It doesn't make any difference now. Most important is that we're getting this update. No need to run around to 'fix' it.

QUOTE(workflow @ Jun 10 2009, 05:30 PM)
Quick question. Is the graphics chip faster on the 3G S?
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QUOTE(Shock @ Jun 10 2009, 06:38 PM)
with better proc, and according to some website which compare the open gl, 3gs is using opengl 2.0. which makes me think (me only) it will perform better than current 3g.
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Yes, now that the new hardware has twice the speed and RAM graphics performance will naturally increase a lot. What I understand from some devs forum is that the current OS version only supports until OpenGL ES 1.0 while the update should allow 2.0. In any case both hardware (iPhone 3G and 3G[S]) supports OpenGL ES 2.0. That's the most important thing. However, most of the performance increase will come from increased core frequency (from current 416MHz) and possibly the iPhone OS v3.0 being more efficient. Of course more RAM dedicated/buffered for graphics.

With such improvements, we will get to see smoother scrolling, faster and more fluid transitions, no more checkerboxes when surfing or scrolling in Maps, immediate response/display of apps when executed, etc.
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there something make sense when iphone 3GS will be release on 19 June and OS3 will be release on 17June. it is because apple want to release OS3 that for iPhone 3G where there will be no official video recording(they disable it on OS3 for iphone 3G) then when iphone 3GS release the OS3 for it its somehow different from OS3 for iphone 3G.

i just state it because from apple website there is no official video recording for I3G and have video Recording for I3GS...

just my concern.
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post Jun 10 2009, 09:53 PM

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Guys, I made a mistake...

Apparently iPhone 3G does not support OpenGL ES 2.0 after all. Its only OpenGL ES 1.1. Check this site --> HERE

The iPhone 3G has the PowerVR MBX while the iPhone 3G[S] has the newer PowerVR SGX graphics chipset.

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post Jun 10 2009, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 10 2009, 09:53 PM)
Guys, I made a mistake...

Apparently iPhone 3G does not support OpenGL ES 2.0 after all. Its only OpenGL ES 1.1. Check this site --> HERE

The iPhone 3G has the PowerVR MBX while the iPhone 3G[S] has the newer PowerVR SGX  graphics chipset.
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LOL. yeah i read about that already and davidgary73 has included that very same link in the relevant thread.

but honestly, it is hard to convince people that the inner "bit" matters.

it is like those comments in paultan.org; where the new accord v6 3.5 is being featured, and a lot of people ridiculed those who actually contemplate purchasing that accord as the same price could get you the entry model bmw 3 series laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i mean, there is no point ridiculing people la. after all it is their money.

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post Jun 10 2009, 10:18 PM

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when i was surfing regarding the spec of iphone 3G and iphone 3GS i saw this link where they have check the proc of iphone 3GS etc..
see the different between those 2 proc.

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i'm not sure how reliable but its from anandTech Site.

Here Is the Link.

em, it seems it stil use arm11 proc but with add on thingy.
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QUOTE(TakanoKyohei @ Jun 10 2009, 10:18 PM)
when i was surfing regarding the spec of iphone 3G and iphone 3GS i saw this link where they have check the proc of iphone 3GS etc..
see the different between those 2 proc.

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i'm not sure how reliable but its from anandTech Site.

Here Is the Link.

em, it seems it stil use arm11 proc but with add on thingy.
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I understand that Apple is extremely silent when it comes to revealing specifications for its iPhone. But Anandtech is a credible site and most of its news and information can be trusted. IF these specifications are true, my gosh! Cortex A8? Thats a lot of innovation in the architecture which will result in better apps and games! Of course the Cortex is no fight with Atom chipset, but still this is a new innovation for ARM cores...
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Maybe i have to admit that i'm noob... After reading the guide i still confuse..
We can use Pwnagetool/Quickpwn and yellowsnow to unlock iPhone3G, then why it says we have to be alert from buying a locked phone?

Are Pwnagetool/Quickpwn and Yellowsnow able to unlock all the iPhone3G in the world? Like At&T set?
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QUOTE(Oris @ Jun 10 2009, 10:51 PM)
Maybe i have to admit that i'm noob... After reading the guide i still confuse..
We can use Pwnagetool/Quickpwn and yellowsnow to unlock iPhone3G, then why it says we have to be alert from buying a locked phone?

Are Pwnagetool/Quickpwn and Yellowsnow able to unlock all the iPhone3G in the world? Like At&T set?
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in order for you to unlock the locked phone(at&t for example) you need to install small app called yellosn0w and it works only on baseband 2.28.00 and it's only available on firmware 2.2. if the phone have baseband 2.30.00( from firmware 2.2.1) you cant use yellowsn0w and it cannot be use with other sim card except valid simcard( in a case of At7&)...That's the first answer of "why it says we have to be alert from buying a locked phone?"

the answer for second question is that, as long as the phone is on baseband 2.28.00 you can use/unlock with yellowsn0w and if on baseband 2.30.00 it cant be use. baseband cant be downgrade unless you have bootloader 5.08 in your iphone... so the answer is, not all phone can be unlock except the phone with that specification.( i think this part hard to unsderstand.)

try to read and understand more and once you understand it, it will likely very easy for you..smile.gif


p/s: i was once like you but i spend hours and hours to read and understand it.smile.gif hope it will be the same with you... icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif

cheers:

Taka.

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hmm..the new iphone 3gs comes with matte casing?

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM)
hmm..the new iphone 3gs comes with matte casing?

hmm...is it new iphone 3gs comes with matte casing?
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C'mon..go do some reading will ya.. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Jun 11 2009, 01:16 AM)
C'mon..go do some reading will ya.. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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i know but here wat i get it..so just curious

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Apple released the iPhone 3G S on Monday with a case that is physically identical to the current iPhone 3G. As a result, most felt that the matte case photos that were leaked back in February were likely fake. Strangely enough, however, the photos do appear to have been real cases for the iPhone 3G S.

The leaked matte case design was clearly marked with a new model number A1303 and FCC ID BCGA1303A. Based on the official records released yesterday, this FCC ID does correlate to the new iPhone 3G S:
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These model numbers and FCC ID's followed no obvious progression at the time so it seems unlikely that someone simply got lucky in guessing. We're not sure if plans simply had changed at the last minute, but the original leaked case was clearly produced by Apple.

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Ok one last question... How can we have to get into the menu to get the info about the version of the baseband and firmware,without activate the phone? Cannot right? Then buying a locked IP3G have to depend on luck o ? If it is baseband 2.30.00 & firmware 2.2.1 then we can use yellowsnow, if its version is above that, gameover...
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