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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V16, V16* Saga Iswara Enthusiast

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post Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM, updated 17y ago

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Introduction of Proton Saga / Iswara

The Proton Saga is the first car produced by Malaysian auto manufacturer Proton, based on the 1983 Mitsubishi Lancer Fiore. It first debuted in September 1985. The first Proton Saga that rolled off the production line was presented to the Malaysian National Museum as a symbol of the beginning of the Malaysian automotive industry.

Since then, the Proton Saga and its variants contributed to most of Proton's sales and revenues. The Saga variants are also popular among Malaysian taxi drivers and operators who need cheap vehicles with good fuel economy. The Saga is currently the longest surviving brand in a line of cars offered by Proton.

Saga / Iswara Owners List

1. kahheng (29/09)
2. chowdm
3. singchaii (16/09)
4. apache_utara
5. the_catacombs (15/09)
6. feralee
7. blackpc
8. domo_kun
9. bukanmain
10. ~Battousai~
11. ceo684
12. edtan5
13. Tainted
14. Xefron
15. RoxyMunky
16. keith121284
17. mengfui
18. hamiru
19. KeV
20. batista_beast (retired member. Now a BMW enthusiast)
21. kudepadi
22. eXpert
23. dcarbon AKA (yongfei)
24. bullet
25. lov3too4ll
26. daktzuk
27. elaineliew88
28. UnCleHenG
29. kevinlim001
30. airpool2407
31. jabelix
32. zhixin
33. CerealKiller
34. sonic_darkknight
35. leinnz
36. nightzstar
37. bjay1482
38. HughieRmX
39. popopi
40. xacrifizer
41. sonicscourge
42. kenzo
43. bryanhkc84
44. icyd
45. mickeywjy
46. andychan (31/8)
47. ronaldet
48. Gilbert5107(13/9)
49. stanum
50. jenniferyoke(19/10)
51. -pWs-
52. tysern
53. joekang86
54. dopeisgood
55. neosaint99
56. wkho555 get car on 11/10/07
57. flyingteeku
58. darude87
59. quick_shaq
60. stupidbump
61. carcraze66
62. how to save a life
63. kakashixws
64. XG.
65. chicaman
66. yewwing
67. neshh
68. virginslayer
69. ThanatosSwiftfire
70. kabyss87
71. firdz
72. ahseng84
73. englandcaptain
74. Anthony87
75. PureGeek
76. allenyip
77. PinkyWhite wub.gif
78. IcEMoCHa
79. felix5152001
80. shiinkuro31
81. lwc1989
82. Calvin
83. mE_duNNo
84. Halia_Merah
85. godspeeds
86. long_con
87. Nskyline
88. heavencloud
89. lkylyk
90. evoluzzion
91. Shawnzz
92. alexwsk
93. Maksimum
94. samosa
95. faidzal1982
96. Hikaru Kenshin
97. lennon_87
98. reuben_1991
99. aichiban
100. ibnuasad
101. juniorkirk
102. aii
103. rozz_1291
104. JJTam
105. ravemaster222003
106. eggtart
107. yOuNg$tEr
108. zyde
109. x_suncai
110. HoobastanK(2)
111. ronzai89
112. lengchai86
113. nap2617 aka Rudy
114. GMS FearLess A.K.A HighRevSAGA
115. Arcsaber
116. UranusFoo

Do PM me if ur name is not listed!

This post has been edited by Gilbert5107: May 21 2009, 10:05 PM
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:03 PM

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Saga/Iswara Evolutions
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Tyre & Rim Info
1) PCD
-> stands for pitch circle diameter, numbers of bolts on the wheel
-> got a few PCD types: 100 (eg: wira, honda), 114.3 (eg: saga iswara, satria neo), 110 (kancil), etc.
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2) Offset
-> distance from the center of the rim to the attaching disk part
-> normally can be adjusted using spacer
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3) Spacer
-> a round piece of metal that has holes on it, the function is to avoid/adjust the wheel from rubbing the arch/fender
-> got few sizes/thickness
-> if u r using 8 holes rim sure need to add spacer on the front

4) 14" or 15"
-> i prefer 15" bcoz 14" less choices for performance tires tongue.gif

5) Best PCD and offset
-> 114.3 and 38-40 (need check with sifoo..)
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Credit goes to: Killer


LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum Rules n Regulations


Following rules are being implemented to prevent any unhappiness arise during discussion.

Rule 1:
This is not a trading thread. Any trading activities must be done in discreet. Use PM la!

Rule 2:
This is not a place for u to show off. Respect all saga/iswara driver if u doesn't own a saga/iswara but u wish to join our thread please respect all others member. Do not make statement like "This car doesn't deserve any modification". If u don't like us don't join our discussion. We also not welcome u to make any statement to show off here.

Rule 3:
All other LYN rules applied in this Forum too.

These rules and regulations has to be followed by existing and new members. Any unsatisfaction and comment pls PM me and allow me to discuss with all senior members before the rule is being change or new rule being implement.

Extra information on warranty issues:

Warranty FAQs
1. What makes the warranty contract null and void?
For details, please refer to your PROTON Service Booklet under Section 4 of Warranty and Limitation of Liability. However, PROTON reserves the right of final decision on all warranty claims.

2. What is covered by the warranty?

Subject to terms and conditions, PERUSAHAAN OTOMOBIL NASIONAL BERHAD (referred as PROTON) warrants that any items of the "Basic Warranty and Specific Warranty" of the new vehicle manufactured by and for PROTON shall be free from any defects in materials and workmanship of these warranty covered by new vehicle limited warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge by any PROTON's authorised distributors or dealers.

Basic Warranty items


The basic warranty items that are any items of the new PROTON vehicle (except the Specific items and the Special transacted items*) are warranted to 24 months or 50,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Specific Warranty items

The specific warranty items listed below are warranted to 12 months or 20,000 kms, whichever comes first.

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Battery (for Diesel - 6 months)
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Exhaust
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Injection nozzle for diesel powered vehicle
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Glow plug for diesel powered vehicle

Special Transacted items*

The concerned manufacturer for Clarion radio cassette and speakers warrant the special transacted items.

3. What are the other types of warranty offered by EON?

Parts Warranty is given to all parts purchased at EON service network for 6 months or 10,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Rust Proofing Warranty is given to all PROTON vehicles, which are treated with anti-rust spray for 6 years from registration date.


4. Can I use my own lubricant/engine oil at EON Service Centre?
Yes. EON will not be responsible for any problem arising from the usage of other brands other than our recommended lubricant/engine oil.

5. Is it important to use genuine parts?

Yes, it is important that you use PROTON genuine parts and accessories.

This will ensure that the original vehicle specifications are maintained and that the replacement parts meet the same high standards as the vehicle original equipments. This will also ensure the vehicle compliance to the government regulations relating to vehicle safety and environmental controls. The use of parts that do not conform to the correct specification may cause damage to the vehicle and could also invalidate the terms of the warranty.

credit goes to Kevin thumbup.gif

USUAL PERFORMANCE UPGRADE FOR SAGA/ISWARA

Intake
1. High Flow Open Pod (from rm50 onwards) or Drop In Air Filters (only K&N available, rm215) sweat.gif
2. Due to the bad placing of the stock air intake resulting in hot air being sucked, it is recommended to add a Cold Air Intake. Various types of hose available for this DIY upgrade. Position the intake in front of the radiator, and you will definitely gain valuable power and better the fuel consumption! thumbup.gif

Exhaust
4-2-1 Tuned Length Extractor (from rm400 onwards) for high exhaust flow with minimal restriction & power increase. Use cap ayam brand and you will end up with power loss instead.

Ignition
1. Performance spark plug cable (from rm50 onwards). Recommended brands are the like of RAM and Pro Rallye. They say thick cables produce bigger spark which results in better combustion=more power=better fuel consumption. Some reported radio interference. However most enthusiast remain skeptic and stuck with the stock plug cable. So you decide. icon_idea.gif
2. Side gapped spark plug. This is a cheap performance upgrade. Your standard spark plug's electrode is shaved away to provide a bigger 'open' spark. It is also recommended to 'index' the spark plug so that when it's plugged in, the spark area will directly face the combustion chamber. Downside is, the plug will not last as long. Again, most enthusiast remain skeptic. http://performanceunlimited.com/documents/...idegapping.html

Engine
1. Port & Polish Engine Head (from rm400~rm1500). Smoothen the rough internals for better air/exhaust flow & power increase.
2. High Performance Camshafts (from rm600~rm1500). Modified camshafts profile can ensure more air-fuel mixture to reach the cylinder at the correct timing resulting in horsepower & torque increase.
3. Lightened Crank Pulley (from rm200~rm650). Release loss horsepower due to heavy stock crank pulley. Better acceleration and fuel consumption. Revs drop faster though. Enthusiasts are still arguing about rubber dampened or non-dampened crank pulley. Again, you decide. icon_idea.gif

Handling
1. Suspension (from rm500~RM2000). Depending on your budget and liking, you can opt for sports short stroke absorber coupled with sports spring or go for semi-adjustable absorbers. Be aware that this upgrade will cause uncomfortable ride. Brands like APM Performax cost about rm500 while adjustables from GAB or Improve will set you back about rm1500.
2. Chassis Stiffening Bars (from rm150 onwards). Front stabiliser bar, fender bars, lower arm bar, rear strut bar, etc will help the car reduce its flex during heavy corners and help the suspension keep the tires planted to the tarmac. The more bar installed, the more solid the ride. Not to mention they will add to the weight as well.

Brakes
1. Double Layer Brake Servo (from rm100 onwards) - This half cut item is popular among enthusiasts. A great help to improve stopping power. However idling will be a bit rough. Sourced from VR4, Pajero or Honda SM4.
2. High-Temp Brake Pads (from rm120 onwards) - Higher temperature handling will avoid the risk of fading brakes during aggressive or mountain driving. At the moment, Rapid Stop pads is the way to go.

This post has been edited by Gilbert5107: Mar 11 2009, 09:24 PM
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:04 PM

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The only monster ride in this thread; the_catacombs' ride (aka skywalker)
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Kevin's LMST
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shiinkuro31's ride
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eXpert
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Gilbert5107
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yewwing
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godspeeds
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sjz
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:05 PM

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1- www.maybank2u.com.my (Maybank Savings Account: 1122-4109-3188 Ang Kit Loong - After payment SMS me @ 012-7036176 update me) thank you


2nd batch. Bulk SIE Sticker (RM18) Min 10pc,no dateline.
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:06 PM

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For TT use
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:07 PM

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For Future Use
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post Mar 12 2009, 12:28 AM

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for exhaust. find kweng. his stuff is good.
GUARANTEE puas hati
TSGilbert5107
post Mar 13 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 12 2009, 11:22 PM)
if turbo car, they claim to let the turbine to cool down before shutting if off... if straight away tutup then will spoil the turbine...

for N/A car... they claim to let the engine to cool down before shutting off, so that it will prolong the engine span life... (bullshit)  doh.gif
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im using turbo timer also. but i always off it. tak pakai...bising. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Mar 13 2009, 12:30 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5VY6CPBT44...re=channel_page

dudes, must check this out... this is monster on the road! biggrin.gif
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damn SCARY doh.gif doh.gif
respect notworthy.gif

i wonder who is the front black lmst? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 13 2009, 10:15 AM

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SIOC like pupus edi... hardly saw them edi.
the last i saw was around year end 2008. until 1 tak nampak langsung. sweat.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 02:47 PM

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dunno wad happen with them sweat.gif
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldet @ Mar 14 2009, 11:00 AM)
i'm stil in SIOC...they jz went 2 gentin TT las 2 weeks.....i think SIE hv much more members than SIOC....no news fr there d....TT shud b held more often Gilbert......haha
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will be organize LIM TEH session around Klang Valley.
talk about next TT event. make it for fun icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 14 2009, 07:45 PM)
Can.... at tayar only... tongue.gif


Added on March 14, 2009, 7:51 pmHow 2 install da relay socket 4 my headlights??? I noe most of da socket where 2 cucuk, but where can I find da da main socket??? Cuz I nid 2 replace da whole socket wit da relay type... Can any1 help me pls... sweat.gif
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go Jalan Pudu Buy some relay(Hella) type. buy 20pc to 30pc. brows.gif
got use for future. my car i think i use around 10pc relay edi
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post Mar 15 2009, 01:56 AM

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SIE sticker is on sales now.can get it from yewwing.
LYN Saga Iswara Official T-Shirt design in progress (maybe not successful) icon_question.gif
1 more thing..we r not a club. just a enthusiast icon_idea.gif

1st batch. Bulk SIE Sticker (RM18)
1.

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post Mar 15 2009, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(eggtart @ Mar 15 2009, 06:16 PM)
you guys know any chop shop dealer in KL? i wanna buy dashboard.
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wad dashboard u wan?
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post Mar 16 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(eggtart @ Mar 15 2009, 08:41 PM)
the ori 1 or if can get mitsu fiore 1 nice
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Fiore and saga almost the same.
if u wan Fiore dash will cost rm650 to rm800. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(eggtart @ Mar 16 2009, 11:11 AM)
ooh, you got contact?  brows.gif
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wad is ur bajet?? icon_idea.gif
i got sell too
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QUOTE(eggtart @ Mar 16 2009, 12:21 PM)
500-600?
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at least min 700.try search in zerotohundred.com got ppl selling also. i dunno the condition la.

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QUOTE(eggtart @ Mar 16 2009, 12:59 PM)
ceh, what dashboard you selling?
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the halfcut shop at ampang. lancer dash? fiore c12 dash....?
will find if u really wan. dun keep at house wink.gif
if u wan fast..try search at zerotohundred.

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