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post May 26 2009, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ May 25 2009, 10:57 PM)
its weber... hahaha... but... dont go to that shop... it will cost you a leg and a hand... i went there today and survey... they straight away charge me for checking... WTF...
they will ask you to do modify your ori carb. they claim after modify, even twin dcoes also lost to them...
you manage to get it ar? get one for me also....
twin DCOEs is same as a fully mod injection... correct ar mr skywalker...
you want to buy that time you call me... i sell you mine...
enough meh? brows.gif
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twin DCOE is not reali same as fully mod injection.. fully mod injection surely can achieve better results

QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ May 25 2009, 11:00 PM)
weber not use air filter meh?????
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with or without depending on ur setup..

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 26 2009, 02:05 AM)
ITB no money la... not as easy as twin dcoe ahh.... cost much much more den dat...
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yeah ITB realli needs alot $$$ haha

QUOTE(juniorkirk @ May 26 2009, 02:06 AM)
i tot injection already then go for ITB ma...  so what's your next project? mind to share some? got sneak preview ar?
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not as easy as u think.. standalone management and the tuning is like living hell..

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 26 2009, 02:17 AM)
to run ITB, u need at least a standalone ecu.... a standalone ecu can cost u a couple of twin dcoe adi lor....

that havent include the ITB unit (cheapest from ae101) and custom intake manifold for it....

better settle for big bore throttle body.... or twin throttle body, like the one from RPW...
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sifoo haha

QUOTE(ronzai89 @ May 26 2009, 06:04 AM)
Apa mau, poison me ah?!

but weber injection, mcm lagi bagus lah
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apa tu weber injection? sweat.gif
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post May 26 2009, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ May 26 2009, 07:25 PM)
apa tu weber injection?  sweat.gif
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This 1 muz ask gilbert.

http://www.racetep.com/weberfi.html

see this link

Added on May 26, 2009, 7:37 pm
QUOTE(juniorkirk @ May 26 2009, 07:04 PM)
they charge me RM 6 for spark plug cleaning...  drool.gif they keep on ask me change this change that... ask me change spark plug, change to NGK one... change carb, dowan change carb take your weber modify... all they interested is MONEY... so i recommend dont go to that shop....

they somemore commented "the person only know how to install your weber... he donno how to tune one... Not like we, we professional" ... i wonder if ramli heard this... what will he do...  whistling.gif

my previous setting is better...  shakehead.gif
16" rim

advantage
more traction... more grip... because bigger tyre ma...
look nicer...
also cornering...


disadvantage
FC high
suffer from pickup
kena mudguard... brows.gif
tayar expensive...
got... 1st time heard only... brows.gif mahaguru sifoos....
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fuiyoh... weber fuel injection... how does it works?  drool.gif
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Tak kan u sifoo mahaguru u pun tak tau?

y wan to noe, new project lagi? brows.gif

This post has been edited by ronzai89: May 26 2009, 07:38 PM
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post May 26 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ May 26 2009, 07:04 PM)
they charge me RM 6 for spark plug cleaning...  drool.gif they keep on ask me change this change that... ask me change spark plug, change to NGK one... change carb, dowan change carb take your weber modify... all they interested is MONEY... so i recommend dont go to that shop....

they somemore commented "the person only know how to install your weber... he donno how to tune one... Not like we, we professional" ... i wonder if ramli heard this... what will he do...  whistling.gif

my previous setting is better...  shakehead.gif

fuiyoh... weber fuel injection... how does it works?  drool.gif
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u mai go ramli there tune again lo.

another poison for you.
but u need 2 coz yours is twin DCOE.

but i wonder your engine block can tahan or not???

This post has been edited by wkho555: May 26 2009, 07:49 PM
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post May 26 2009, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ May 26 2009, 07:34 PM)
This 1 muz ask gilbert.

http://www.racetep.com/weberfi.html

see this link
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this one considered fuel injection adi lor... jz dat the housing is different... intake manifold can use back carburetor manifold... it has external fuel injectors, different compare to carburetor applications....

QUOTE(wkho555 @ May 26 2009, 07:46 PM)
u mai go ramli there tune again lo.

another poison for you.
but u need 2 coz yours is twin DCOE.

but i wonder your engine block can tahan or not???
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scared cannot tahan go powerzone do engine balancing and blueprint lo.. whistling.gif
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post May 26 2009, 08:24 PM

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Okie... juz now, I n Youngster when 2 carik a mech wit best price.... Top overhaul n change all those stuffs I mention, around rm2k++ brows.gif Izzit okie??? cuz my car now really teruk edi.... sad.gif got rattling sound, leaking oil, makan oil, no power... but still enuf power 2 cucuk Youngster's car... tongue.gif
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4got 1 more thing 2 ask.... blush.gif 8v has higher compression than 12v rite??? If we still use 8valve block wit a 12valve head... wat is da side effect??? hmm.gif Pls sifoo help a poor PLKN trainee tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(xlolzomg @ May 26 2009, 01:08 PM)
Hi guys, just want to know that if i would want to change my rims to 16", will it bring down the power ? As in power loss or something like that ? Need comments .
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im using 16" rims... to get rid of the "less pick up/fc increase" , u mite need to add something like better plug cable(10mm), VS, n good spark plug (Iridium).. but if ur car is completely stock, then u will suffer abit blush.gif *from my experience lar sweat.gif *
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ May 26 2009, 08:24 PM)
Okie... juz now, I n Youngster when 2 carik a mech wit best price.... Top overhaul n change all those stuffs I mention, around rm2k++  brows.gif  Izzit okie??? cuz my car now really teruk edi.... sad.gif  got rattling sound, leaking oil, makan oil, no power... but still enuf power 2 cucuk Youngster's car... tongue.gif
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My fren overhaul kancil 3k+ u overhaul 2k+, cheap liao lu brows.gif
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post May 26 2009, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ May 26 2009, 08:24 PM)
Okie... juz now, I n Youngster when 2 carik a mech wit best price.... Top overhaul n change all those stuffs I mention, around rm2k++  brows.gif  Izzit okie??? cuz my car now really teruk edi.... sad.gif  got rattling sound, leaking oil, makan oil, no power... but still enuf power 2 cucuk Youngster's car... tongue.gif
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mmg power.. got a shock when i looked at my speedometer when we passed the same place.. shocking.gif

btw what does the word engine internals really mean?its the piston..conrod etc etc right..
i heard that wira 1.5's block internals are lighter.. does it mean the pistons and stuff?or the whole block itself?

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 26 2009, 08:06 PM)
this one considered fuel injection adi lor... jz dat the housing is different... intake manifold can use back carburetor manifold... it has external fuel injectors, different compare to carburetor applications....
scared cannot tahan go powerzone do engine balancing and blueprint lo.. whistling.gif
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Oh, means intake pakai balik the carb. carb act as TB. juz add those EFI thgs la.?
Conclusion, carb injection?


cannot tahan, sure la, his hse near wat. brows.gif
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post May 26 2009, 08:47 PM

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waaah, all wan install webber, injeksyun and overhaul. All becoming monster.
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post May 26 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ May 26 2009, 08:24 PM)
Okie... juz now, I n Youngster when 2 carik a mech wit best price.... Top overhaul n change all those stuffs I mention, around rm2k++  brows.gif  Izzit okie??? cuz my car now really teruk edi.... sad.gif  got rattling sound, leaking oil, makan oil, no power... but still enuf power 2 cucuk Youngster's car... tongue.gif
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consider cheap i guess... haha...

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ May 26 2009, 08:26 PM)
4got 1 more thing 2 ask.... blush.gif  8v has higher compression than 12v rite??? If we still use 8valve block wit a 12valve head... wat is da side effect??? hmm.gif  Pls sifoo help a poor PLKN trainee tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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can use la... compression ratio higher abit... means got more power... brows.gif
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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ May 26 2009, 12:07 PM)
Lu yg jual?


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x.. dulu penah buat kat saga aku bump jadi 1500cc. pegi sbb nampak iklan yg sama kat the star. lepas tu lama dah x nampak iklan tu sampai le kuar balik dalam paper smlm. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yOuNg$tEr @ May 26 2009, 08:42 PM)
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Destroy 2 engine....... drool.gif ...rich......... drool.gif .............

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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ May 26 2009, 08:47 PM)
waaah, all wan install webber, injeksyun and overhaul. All becoming monster.
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You oso can brows.gif

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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 26 2009, 08:49 PM)
x.. dulu penah buat kat saga aku bump jadi 1500cc. pegi sbb nampak iklan yg sama kat the star. lepas tu lama dah x nampak iklan tu sampai le kuar balik dalam paper smlm. smile.gif
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Iklan yg same la? drool.gif

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 26 2009, 08:48 PM)
can use la... compression ratio higher abit... means got more power... brows.gif
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Engine x rosak kaa??? icon_question.gif Cuz I also takut edi after wat Youngster provide... I m using a 12valve 1.5 Wira parts... drool.gif
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what is a fuel regulator?
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post May 26 2009, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ May 26 2009, 08:52 PM)


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Iklan yg same la? drool.gif
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yup iklan yg sama. if u interested, i think need around rm2k (coz i changed few other things as well that time). they gave 10k warranty but now already slightly more than 50k mileage the engine still ok no problem.
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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 26 2009, 09:32 PM)
yup iklan yg sama. if u interested, i think need around rm2k (coz i changed few other things as well that time). they gave 10k warranty but now already slightly more than 50k mileage the engine still ok no problem.
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I dont need it, using injection now biggrin.gif juz interested on it biggrin.gif Good for those who wants to upgrade biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ May 26 2009, 09:22 PM)
what is a fuel regulator?
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device that control fuel flow.(if im not wrong)ngek ngek brows.gif
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post May 26 2009, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ May 26 2009, 08:58 PM)
Engine x rosak kaa??? icon_question.gif  Cuz I also takut edi after wat Youngster provide... I m using a 12valve 1.5 Wira parts... drool.gif
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mayb ron95 cannot use lo... tongue.gif

ron97 still can la...

QUOTE(Shawnzz @ May 26 2009, 09:22 PM)
what is a fuel regulator?
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regulate the fuel pressure... not usable in carburetor engine... coz carburetor engine dont need high fuel pressure...
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