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post Mar 31 2009, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 31 2009, 04:39 PM)
I just want to ask, will I violate the contract if I use my mom maxis number and later slot in my celcom sim card in to the iphone?..
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You only violate the contract if you stop/terminate using the line. If you want to use your SIM card on another phone, that's also fine (as long as you continue to pay for 12 months/24 months as per contract). You can slot in Celcom/Digi or other operator SIM into your Maxis Iphone to make calls, sms BUT certain data transfer will not work as they are locked. Don't ask me why but that is what being told by Maxis smile.gif I haven't tested this out to make sure it's true though.
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6. Maxis reserves the right to rescind any of the privileges of the rate plan where the registered line is not used with the purchased iPhone 3G.


This is under iphone's terms and conditions.

That means they can terminate your account if they found out you are not using the iphone with the registered line.
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 31 2009, 06:32 PM)
This is under iphone's terms and conditions.

That means they can terminate your account if they found out you are not using the iphone with the registered line.
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This is a very vague "terms and conditions":
1. How would they know if you're not using your Iphone?
2. Even if you do swap phones, you can always say your Iphone is left at home because you have more than one phone, trying out a new phone which you've just bought, you need to call up someone via video call urgently (personal matters), etc. Millions of excuses which can be given.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 31 2009, 06:36 PM)
This is a very vague "terms and conditions":
1. How would they know if you're not using your Iphone?
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IMEI number recorded on their database
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post Mar 31 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Mar 31 2009, 07:00 PM)
IMEI number recorded on their database
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I know but how can they detect if the phone I'm using is of that IMEI unless we allow some information to be sent back to Maxis. I'm not sure if there is a mechanism of such with the Iphone. I thought these are private information and we should be asked for consent whether we want to send or not?
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post Mar 31 2009, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 31 2009, 07:47 PM)
I know but how can they detect if the phone I'm using is of that IMEI unless we allow some information to be sent back to Maxis. I'm not sure if there is a mechanism of such with the Iphone. I thought these are private information and we should be asked for consent whether we want to send or not?
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okay i don't really know the actual mechanism works, but i can assure you that it is feasible.

when i was studying in the uk, i got myself a nokia smartphone from vodafone (contract) and at the same time, motorola came out with their first razr v3 days later. i fell in love it and hence i opened another contract with o2. blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

it is very normal trade practice for the telecommunication company there to ring you up days later to see if you are interested in taking up an insurance for your mobile phone (extra revenues for them) and vodafone had a grace trial period of two weeks if i'm not mistaken. so i agreed and i was using my razr with my vodafone sim card at that time, the bloke over the phone, roughly said this "i can see that you are currently using a motorola razr right now even though it is stated on the vodafone system that you got a nokia phone from us. so which phone do you want to insure?" and i replied "the razr please" (since it was my iPhone equivalent back then).

days later, i received a mail from the insurer, registering my razr complete with its IMEI number (even though i have never once mentioned it to the bloke over the phone; not like i could have memorise it as the conversation took place when i was outside).

hence don't naively believe that apple products are God sent and there are so-called special mechanisms to protect your interest.




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post Mar 31 2009, 08:43 PM

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This is true to what nokia2003 mentioned.

The IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) is a unique 17 or 15 digit code used to identify an individual mobile station to a GSM or UMTS network. The IMEI number provides an important function; it uniquely identifies a specific mobile phone being used on a mobile network. The IMEI is a useful tool to prevent a stolen handset from accessing a network and being used to place calls. Mobile phone owners who have their phones stolen can contact their mobile network provider and ask them disable a phone using its IMEI number. With an IMEI number, the phone can be blocked from the network quickly and easily.

It is important to note that swapping a SIM card will not stop a phone from being banned. IMEI numbers are stored in the phones themselves, not on the SIM cards.

Source: http://www.gsm-security.net/faq/imei-inter...ntity-gsm.shtml
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Mar 31 2009, 08:43 PM)
This is true to what nokia2003 mentioned.

The IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) is a unique 17 or 15 digit code used to identify an individual mobile station to a GSM or UMTS network. The IMEI number provides an important function; it uniquely identifies a specific mobile phone being used on a mobile network. The IMEI is a useful tool to prevent a stolen handset from accessing a network and being used to place calls. Mobile phone owners who have their phones stolen can contact their mobile network provider and ask them disable a phone using its IMEI number. With an IMEI number, the phone can be blocked from the network quickly and easily.

It is important to note that swapping a SIM card will not stop a phone from being banned. IMEI numbers are stored in the phones themselves, not on the SIM cards.

Source: http://www.gsm-security.net/faq/imei-inter...ntity-gsm.shtml
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But do the mobile operators here in Malaysia can help us to bar a stolen phone from using any of the network?
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3 Data included in iValue Plans applies to mobile Internet usage only and excludes SMS, and other subscription based services. Data bundle is for local usage only. The maximum charge for local usage is up to RM250. While roaming overseas, the prevailing data roaming charges will apply.


Not really understand the statement above... some1 mind to explain? rclxub.gif
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post Apr 1 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(dnoah @ Apr 1 2009, 11:24 AM)
Not really understand the statement above... some1 mind to explain?  rclxub.gif
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that statement is not just restricted to the iPhone. as a matter of fact, all.

when you are abroad, roaming internationally, surely you cannot expect to pay the domestic rates ain't it?


Added on April 1, 2009, 12:25 pmspeaking of which, i had a rather humorous encounter when i was on an european tour holiday a couple years back. i have always classified this as one of my epic encounters. the other encounter is the one about the ayamas set C with the malay lady (regulars would have heard this before)

so there was this chinese middle-aged couple (from malaysia obviously) and their physical description will match your textbook example of china man. both of them are running their own business (however the nature is unknown).

during the first two days of the journey on the coach, they were perpetually on the phone and i was thinking to myself that their business must be in a large scale to be able to fork out for those roaming charges.

so after a few days, after we got warmed up, i just asked them out of curiosity, how much is their average mobile phone bill and is it justifiable to pay for the extortionate charges when they are abroad.

they laughed out loud at me and ridiculed me for uttering such a nonsensical statement because according to them, calls picked up during roaming are free of charge and justified it by saying that "you don't get charged for answering calls in malaysia right? so why should you get charged when i'm in europe?". furthermore according to them, the only person who should be paying, is the one making those calls and they are "safe" because they don't make any.

shortly later, i just spill the beans and told them the truth and they refused to believe me initially (as i was still a teenager back then). but they went around the coach asking the other malaysians of my so-called travesty claims.

no prize for guessing the correct answer. their perpetual happy-go-lucky facial expressions initially turned sour throughout the entire trip. classic i tell you! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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sumthin similar happened to me wen i went to india early last year. dad was happily answering calls n all. wen came back msia, the bill was close to 1000bucks. jus for a week of answerin calls. thx to maxis. lolz. now learned lesson redi. dun bring hp to overseas..tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2009, 02:16 PM

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If you're going overseas, there's a cheaper solution to call back by using *126# or some sort. Maybe you can try reading up in Maxis website. Obviously roaming is expensive (they are never cheap).
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If you really need to make/receive calls overseas, buy a local SIM. I was a consultant for a major firm, and I travelled quite a bit. Suffice to say I have a lot of horror stories la.

Nokia - can we have the ayamas set C story again pls? =p
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I just got my Maxis iPhone today. I was being told the Maxis Data Plan can be used on other fone. Eg. I'll use the iPhone for my DiGi line where else the Maxis sim-card (with data plan) to be used on my other 3.5G fone. Is it possible?

Reason for asking because the sales person told me the Maxis Simcard has to be tied to the iPhone and can't be used on other fone.

But the person who activated my iPhone (different day) at Maxis said I can use the Maxis Simcard on any other fone to utilize the data plan. So there's a conflict here. Anyone can comment?
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:32 PM)
sumthin similar happened to me wen i went to india early last year. dad was happily answering calls n all. wen came back msia, the bill was close to 1000bucks. jus for a week of answerin calls. thx to maxis. lolz. now learned lesson redi. dun bring hp to overseas..tongue.gif
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went to Japan, each call I answered cost RM17 per minit. kudos to maxis thumbup.gif .

p/s : all company pay tongue.gif
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QUOTE(stutzedward @ Apr 1 2009, 09:33 PM)
I just got my Maxis iPhone today. I was being told the Maxis Data Plan can be used on other fone. Eg. I'll use the iPhone for my DiGi line where else the Maxis sim-card (with data plan) to be used on my other 3.5G fone. Is it possible?

Reason for asking because the sales person told me the Maxis Simcard has to be tied to the iPhone and can't be used on other fone.

But the person who activated my iPhone (different day) at Maxis said I can use the Maxis Simcard on any other fone to utilize the data plan. So there's a conflict here. Anyone can comment?
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no problem to use yr sim at other phone lah bro rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(alexkwlee @ Apr 2 2009, 07:55 AM)
no problem to use yr sim at other phone lah bro  rclxm9.gif
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I know I can use the simcard on my other fone which I am doing it right now. But can I utilize the 3G data package (500mb per month) with my other 3.5G fone?

I got to know the salesperson told me that the 500mb data CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED by iPhone and not other fones. If I still insist to use, I won't be able to utilize the 500mb but instead, will be charged RM10 per 1mb.

Wanna make this clear before I start surfing web with it...

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 31 2009, 04:49 PM)
You only violate the contract if you stop/terminate using the line. If you want to use your SIM card on another phone, that's also fine (as long as you continue to pay for 12 months/24 months as per contract). You can slot in Celcom/Digi or other operator SIM into your Maxis Iphone to make calls, sms BUT certain data transfer will not work as they are locked. Don't ask me why but that is what being told by Maxis smile.gif I haven't tested this out to make sure it's true though.
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The iphone sold in Maxis does not allow you to configure the data profile, and therefore to use data (maxis iphone) in other operator, you have to depend on the availability of the wifi spot. Otherwise, it will be no fun without data mobility.

hope that help. If you are technical enough, in short is, you can't change the APN of the iphone.



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Yes, I guess they blocked it or something? Anyway, it wouldn't be a concern for myself since I only have Maxis. To the rest that intend to use Iphone with other carriers then it might be a problem. Btw, can we resolve it by following the Iphone unlocking steps, etc?
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As stated previously, when using a Maxis SIM the APN is preconfigured. However when you use another carrier's SIM the APN settings page reappears.

QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Mar 29 2009, 08:27 PM)
i'll like to confirm da latter...
i tested it myself...
with maxis u cant change edit da apn as they alredi preconfigured 2 maxis...but with other sim cards u can
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