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Toys G.I. Joes, COOOOBBBRRAAAAAA!!!

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TSSadistic Reaper
post Dec 27 2009, 11:38 AM

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bman: What darkshadow said, that's very old news, we knew about it, i think a few months ahead. Too bad that they still kept churning out the same old waves, otherwise, if there's more waves except from the wave 1 and 2s, i think quite a few of us will keep on snagging them. And also, this sales is primarily to get rid of the overstock crap figures. However, in the US and Canada, they're having their sales on both older waves and new waves. They already started selling the "SERPENT ARMOR" (aka SNAKE ARMOR in Canada with half its price). But we in Malaysia, don't get that kinda treatment. We're still STUCK with the CRAP FIGURES...with half priced. Hasblow Malaysia don't wanna bring in more new waves because our G.I. JOE FAN BASE DEMOGRAPH IS SMALL. So they thought we're insignificant and rather focus more on Star Wars (they're the bringer of big bucks and its all about business).

Hasblow thought that with the movie release, they think that the toys will be a hit, wrong for them.

The movie wasn't the greatest, it was good, better than Transformers 2 movie (in my honest opinion, not being bias to the movie but enough about that), it's just that the movie didn't hype up the audience that much. The acting wasn't all that impressive, the dialogues were either cheesy or just uninspiring (it brings the nostalgia factor, sure, but it's not done right properly).

And Hasblow also made several mistakes:

1) Relying on the movie too much to do their job for them
2) Overconfidence by overproducing wave 1s and 2s (so now you got too much crappy figures all over the world. Walmart in the US has too much of the crap figures too)
3) Jacked up the price up to RM 39.90 (trying to be a slight more expensive compared to a Star Wars fig)
4) Not enough market research
5) Not enough advertising
6) After learning that wave 1s and 2s isn't doing well, they LIMIT their stock so they can do their MARKET RESEARCH test study on the consumers. A little too late, right?

Sure, they might have lose millions on backing up too much on the movie line.

But Hasblow don't have to worry too much since they have their Transformers and Star Wars to back up their loss. G.I. Joe fan base in Malaysia is very, very, very, very small and for Transformers and Star Wars fan base, they're much more bigger fans. And even for US and Canada, the G.I. Joe fan base isn't all that huge either to compare the size of Transformers and Star Wars fan base. So yes, of course Hasblow would focus on those 2 demographs, hell, i would too.

Anyways, here's a view of my display cabinet smile.gif

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darkshadow
post Dec 27 2009, 12:06 PM

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Reaper,your Joes collection are startin to reduce breathing space. biggrin.gif
i suggest adding a layer of plank in between each row to increase the amount of figs for display..

my own collection are cramped up in boxes due to lack of storage space..and they are all loose too.
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post Dec 27 2009, 06:10 PM

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Well, I think Hasbro Malaysia expected the movie toys to move fast but given the current financial environment, I would say that was fairly optimistic, as always certain figures and vehicles moved during the movie run but then things pretty much slowed down. There's mixed reports in the US as how the figures are doing but indication was that the initial higher price point and the fact that it's not a great year financially for the average american played a part in it. There are certain things in the joe line which moved well, the Target packs are basically all gone and most of the later wave figures are also gone, wave 1 and 2 are the only ones largely to be found but I suspect Hasbro produced these in larger volumes to cater for purchase by moviegoers (and similarly Hasbro Malaysia bought larger numbers of these) and the later waves in smaller number factoring that the those inspired by the movie would drop out and leaving the regular collectors left. I'll give it time though, we could be like Transformerss now, when figures are scare and suddenly a glut comes in.
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post Dec 27 2009, 11:46 PM

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hey guys. help me to understand this. I got Toyfare magazine my boss borrowed me and somehow inside showed city strike duke and snake eyes and the rest of pursuit of cobra line but the magazine is dated Dec 2009 and the book says the release is Fall. What on earth is going on??
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post Dec 27 2009, 11:56 PM

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US magazines are released way ahead of their printed dates in the market so the info reflects the situation when the magazine actually first comes out rather than the cover date (which is the last month the magazine should be on the stand in the US, I think this has to do with their circulation/printing laws in that you can't keep a magazine on the shelf in mainstream stores and newstands after a certain date) the dec toyfair actually came out in October as the current toyfair, dated february 2010 came out this week at the comic shops so the info pretty much reflects the situation then.

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post Dec 28 2009, 12:34 AM

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damn,looks like my hope for getting CS SE is lost again
darkshadow
post Dec 28 2009, 12:53 AM

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erald06 ,still hunting for CS SE eh?
why not just get it online?pay more but it eliminates the anger and disappointement of not finding it.problem solved.
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post Dec 28 2009, 11:26 AM

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Guys when you r hunting Joes anyone seen Han Solo in Full Stormtrooper suit & AT-AT pilot? Darkshadow i think got the Full Trooper. Haven't been to shops for a week don't know any changes.

And the Twisted Toyfare Theatre in Toyfare is very fun to read.
darkshadow
post Dec 28 2009, 12:23 PM

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TRU restock basic figs last week,that's how i got my Han Solo in Stormie disguise..only 1 per case and there were 2 cases that arrived.
still looking for Leia in slave outfit..

as for Toyfare ,i used to buy them several years back..there were a few issues released that are compilations of previous Twisted Theatre.
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post Dec 28 2009, 06:25 PM

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Well, it sucks to see sales on old figures. I am still waiting for the upcoming figures they showed cry.gif Hope the old figures clear out quickly, its not really cheap for Rm30 anyway..
dzirhan
post Dec 29 2009, 12:31 AM

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Just some my old style figures collection, about 10-15 percent of it biggrin.gif

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TSSadistic Reaper
post Dec 29 2009, 12:40 AM

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dzirhan: Holy crap, that's a lot of vintage and reissues biggrin.gif

Show us more biggrin.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(dzirhan @ Dec 29 2009, 12:31 AM)
Just some my old style figures collection, about 10-15 percent of it biggrin.gif

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sweeeet!you must have over 1000 figs ,judging from the size of those shown in the pics ,which you mentioned form only 10-15% of your collection..

i recognize Law,Repeater,Budo ,Lowlight and good ol' Sarge..i like those guys ,but didnt manage to get them,except for Lowlight which i bought wayyy back in 1990 or 91.

man,those ARAH figs sure brings back old memories.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 01:08 AM

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Yup, it's around 1200 last I checked and that's not counting the ROC line, I'm slowly cleaning up my displays in stages and will be posting pictures as each stage gets done.

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post Dec 29 2009, 01:23 AM

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do you have the complete ARAH line then?
i think you are in the top 3 of largest GI Joe collection in malaysia.. rclxms.gif
dzirhan
post Dec 29 2009, 09:57 PM

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No, I'm missing a fair bit, think about a 100 figures or so from the original line, my profile is here, just click the checklist tab above to see what I have in my collection.

http://www.actionfigurechecklist.com/Check...ber=563&Tribe=1

Not sure if anyone else has a vintage collection in Malaysia

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post Dec 29 2009, 10:06 PM

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looks like fun ,the url you provided,bro..will create one for myself too.
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post Dec 29 2009, 10:07 PM

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dzirhan: Holy crap, a thousand figures?? You really need to show us your collection drool.gif

BTW, here's my repainted World Peacekeeper's Main Battle Tank (not the Combat tank, my bad) into Cobra's colors smile.gif

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post Dec 29 2009, 10:16 PM

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bro dzirhan has been collecting for some time ,owning some of the rare figs too.hopefully Hasblow will release more of them using the newer design and to start with ,bring in the 7 packs already!.
i've only amassed 555 Joe figs from the 25th to ROC in less than 2 years but most of them are duplicate figs ;ie troopers.

dzirhan,do you still keep the filecards of the vintage Joes?i kept some years back but i seem to have lost them.i do however, keep the 25th filecards and store them in boxes.
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post Dec 29 2009, 11:26 PM

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I have some of the filecards but not all, to tell you the truth, with the digital age, the issue of filecards has become less important to collectors in general especially with almost every filecard available on yojoe.com to reproduce

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