i use american crew molding clay... holds only decently...a quart on the hand and it only lasts half day... after lunch have to apply another quart... doesnt keep it standing the hold day.... maybe due to amount used... the smell is slightly off as mentioned earlier... but it did mentioned the use of orange citrus chemical...

previously i used Baxter's pomade which gives slick and shiny effect, but thats even worse... doesnt keep it standing half of that half day... it works if you want to keep it slick like Diego Simeone and even then, have to use a tub of it...

thats my experience...

still searching for that shiny, not sticky, lasts all day, and nice smelling pomade...