if u wanna up never down use loreal mud , really strong good for koreans thou , osis + if u not teenage good for long hair , but I tried good looking wax at school made me detention oni

use osis dust it for volumize like that.

Osis is good if you want a good health hair .

gatsby is so not gud , hard to wash make ur forehead oily , osis not strong beause it doesn't have to be like gatsby strong like rock.