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igor87
post May 31 2009, 02:36 PM

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Got my Mamba last week.
Awesome mouse, just awesome.

I'm using it at 2000dpi, just as I did with my previous Copperhead and Lachesis. Might just pump it up to 4000dpi for certain fast paced games.

Tracking on the Destructor is flawless, perhaps better than the Lachesis.

If I have any complaints about it at all, it would be the awfully hard to open packaging (need more than one person to yank it open, which is ridiculous), and the fact that it doesn't come with a driver (had to download it off the internet).
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post May 31 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 31 2009, 02:43 PM)
For Mamba users :

Which mousepad works the best with Mamba?
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I've been using it on a Destructor pad, and it's working flawlessly.

Tried it on a Goliathus Control Ed and it tracks fine, but the cursor tends to move a little when i click, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to use your Mamba on a Goliathus Control Ed. I have yet to try Goliathus Speed though.

According to Razerzone, apparently the optimum surface for the Mamba is the eXactmat. My eXactmat is totally worn out on both sides, so I can't really compare it to the Destructor. Using the Mamba on my (worn out) eXactmat, it felt quite decent, but the eXactrest was a little annoying, as i rest my arm on the pad when i use the Mamba.

I've emailed Razer to ask about why they recommend the eXactmat over the Destructor for use with the Mamba, but i have yet to receive a reply. When I do, I'll post their answer here.

QUOTE(selinix @ May 31 2009, 02:48 PM)
Saw the razer mamba at lowyat yesterday, i just think that the packaging is too overrated.. so heavy... and I saw the one in Sri Computer is scratched here and there ...
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I'd have to respectfully disagree with you there, mate. I think the packaging is great. And when you're pricing a premium product, it doesn't really hurt to add the wow factor to it, even if it would add to the price a bit.

The fancy packaging gives it exactly that, a massive wow factor over any other mice. And if it indeed added an extra RM20 to the price, so be it. After all, RM20 wouldn't be a deal breaker when buying something at this pricerange right?
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post May 31 2009, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 31 2009, 03:22 PM)
i will take a guess saying its cos the sensor hasnt got enough distance between it and the pad on a softer surface.
if u check one of blacktrix's older post, he also complained to razer of the sensor tracking so they're sending him a teflon ring to place around the sensor, basically increasing distance between sensor and pad.
tho that sensor tracking problem turned out to be more of how he held the mouse tongue.gif
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Well actually my Mamba came with the Teflon ring already attached around the sensor.
I think only the very first (few) batches of the Mamba came without it (there will be a silver sticker saying '3.5G Laser Sensor' or something to that effect around the sensor). Having gotten a lot of complaints about it, i guess they now ship out the Mamba with the Teflon ring as standard.


Added on May 31, 2009, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(KHOdin @ May 31 2009, 04:29 PM)
eh about razer mamba the charger is the wireless receiver ?
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Yup, the Charging Dock also acts as the wireless receiver.
I'm loving the dock, as it puts the Mamba right where it belongs - on a pedestal =)

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post Jun 1 2009, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jun 1 2009, 09:40 AM)
But all you have to do is to modify your grip a bit. Really, with that, it makes all the difference.
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Yeah, i had similar problems with my old Lachesis as well. Razer then asked me to remove the sticker around the sensor. I refused to do that, so i tried to work my way out of the problem.
Settled with using the Destructor, and holding the mouse slightly tighter.

Now with the Mamba/Destructor combo, I have no problems whatsoever. Cursor doesn't move one bit, even when i use the side buttons or the middle button.

Oh, and my Mamba came with the Teflon Ring too.
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post Jun 1 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 1 2009, 11:04 PM)
Tried so many style of grip with my mamba, the cursor still move a bit when i click.  cry.gif
Maybe i am not suitable to use it. sweat.gif
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You're using it on a soft mat right, mate? Try it on a hard mat, say an eXactmat, or the Destructor. Believe me, you'll love it.
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post Jun 2 2009, 08:17 PM

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I've used a Lachesis for about a year and a half, had no real problems with it.

The cursor did jump a little when i switched from my worn out eXactpad to a Goliathus Control Ed. Having replaced that with a Destructor, everything was totally perfect.

If you're getting a Lachesis, get a hard gaming mat too. The Destructor especially works great with it.


So yeah, it's quite a big investment - Lachesis plus a hard pad, so you'll have to ask yourself if you really want it (not need, no one really NEEDS a gaming mouse do they?). If you find the DeathAdder being too slow for you (like I do), by all means go for it, the Lachesis is one hell of a mouse, IF you can handle high dpi.
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post Jun 2 2009, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 2 2009, 10:40 PM)
Razer just reply my email, saying mamba is advisable to be used on hard mouse pad. : (
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Haha I got that reply too when I complained about moving cursors with my Lachesis on Goliathus Control Ed.
I got the Destructor and the problem was solved. Now I'm using the Mamba on the Destructor too. No jitters.

I guess Razer's newer Laser sensors are just too sensitive, to even detect slight movements like a soft pad 'deflating'. Funny though that my old Copperhead works fine on all surfaces. Using it with a Goliathus Control Ed now.
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post Jun 3 2009, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ Jun 2 2009, 11:05 PM)
i grip like this de wo...tell me if i wrong
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Your grip is your own, it's up to you. There is no right or wrong.

We only mentioned grips because of the jittery cursors, problems with the Lachesis and Mamba at high dpi settings. As far as I know, the DeathAdder has no such problems.

Try experiment around with your driver settings (dpi and sensitivity) to get your own 'optimum' profile. Only failing that should you look for a new mouse or gaming mat/pad.
QUOTE(mois @ Jun 3 2009, 08:32 AM)
so now if want to use mamba need to buy destructor? rm449 + rm100+? Anyone tried mamba on qck heavy?
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Haha it's not really a MUST to have the Destructor along with the Mamba. Just that it works best with it. It works well on any hard surfaces, or even certain soft mats.

But then again, the Destructor is an exceptional gaming pad, you won't regret spending RM130+ on it.
QUOTE(Getz @ Jun 3 2009, 10:54 AM)
What about Razer Diamondback 3g ? Anyone recommend that mouse? What is the different with krait?
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I've only used the original Diamondback (my first Razer!) many years ago, and it was pretty damn good, but a tad on the small side. I've never used a Diamondback 3G though, but it should be similar.

Depends on your preferred grip (claw/palm) and palm size, either get the Diamondback 3G or the DeathAdder.
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post Jun 8 2009, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ Jun 8 2009, 01:29 PM)
hard surface tends to make mousefeet get even thinner dun you think?but destuctor also a hard pad?or a hard pad with cloth topping
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Destructor is a hard pad.
While it is true that hard pads wear off your mouse feet, it's not as bad as some of the exaggerated comments that we get around here. And it's not like you get ZERO wear when you use cloth pads. Where ever there's friction, there's wear.

I have an eXactmat and a Destructor, both of which I'll never switch with a cloth pad.
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post Jun 9 2009, 07:01 PM

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Nope, was in Lowyat yesterday; no Mamba in stock in Sri Computers/C Zone/All IT/TM etc.

I guess you'll have to wait for the next shipment, next month probably.
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post Jun 9 2009, 07:32 PM

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Mamba buyers aren't necessarily rich, they just appreciate their gaming mice =).

Anyway the fact that it's out of stock is a little misleading towards its total sales here, as the first batch of shipment only consist of 20 units (or 10 units according to some sources. As for which one is true, your guess is as good as mine).


Added on June 9, 2009, 7:39 pmAnd as for eXactmat, there shouldn't be that big a difference in prices across the shops here. About RM90 to RM100 sounds about right.

If it was me though, I'd spend a little more to get the Destructor (RM135). As for ease of transportation, do take note that the Destructor comes with a cool carrying case.

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post Jun 9 2009, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 9 2009, 08:15 PM)
ban leong said 20.
brought in that small amount quickly due to some demand here and i guess to test market tongue.gif
i guess sometime mid this month is when the actual full shipment will come in.
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Thanks for clearing that up, mate.
I've got a couple of friends dying to get their Mamba. I'll have about a month to gloat with mine then, LOL.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 9 2009, 08:15 PM)
when i used exactmat, i wore out the speed side in 3 months...my mouse feet still going strong.
then i flipped it over to the control side, i wore that side out in about 5-6 months.
of cos if all u do is surf the web, then wtf cares cos the mousefeet or the mat will hardly wear out much and should last quite awhile.
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True, that. Wore out my eXactmat pretty damn fast, probably just about a year in when both side showed serious signs of wear.
My Destructor is almost a year old now. Still looks and feels new.
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post Jun 10 2009, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(j.sun @ Jun 10 2009, 12:53 AM)
There's someone selling both sound card and the headphone as bundle.. Around RM750 or probably less then that.. Not too sure myself.. tongue.gif
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Wow that's quite a bargain. Do you have link to this?
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post Jun 10 2009, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jun 10 2009, 03:07 PM)
I only wish Razer has more drivers for the Macs.... sad.gif
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You can install the drivers on a Windows system, then save your profiles into it's Synapse memory - dpi settings etc.

Wouldn't that work with a Mac? With the Mamba you'll have 5 pre-set dpi settings that you can save, and switch around.

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post Jun 10 2009, 06:33 PM

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The Copperhead, Lachesis, Boomslang CE and Mamba all has Razer Synapse memory in which you can store your profiles with settings.
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post Jun 10 2009, 06:56 PM

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LOL I think he was referring to the feel of the surfaces, not the type of the pad/mat.

Anyway, the Goliathus Control's surface is a lot more coarse compared to the control side of the eXactMat.

For me i get a lot more feel with the eXactMat. The Goliathus Control gives too much resistance, which is a no no for me.

Plus high sensitivity Laser mice just don't work on a Goliathus Control. At least not well.
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Carcharias is a 2.1 headphones. Barracuda full 5.1. Upcoming Megalodon is simulated 7.1 (with a sound engine).
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post Jun 11 2009, 12:18 AM

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While I won't go all out and say the Piranha is total crap, I can't say it's good either. Cause it's far from it.

While the sound quality was actually pretty decent (for gaming, not music. For music it was sub-par), comfort was not one of its forté. After about one hour I was dying to get it off me.

Honestly I prefer using the (relatively) cheap Moray over the Piranha for gaming.


And I don't get the Fanboyism towards Razer idea. I bought all my Razer gear because I actually preferred it over choices from other brands, not solely because it was a Razer product.

If a Razer product is crap, so be it, I won't get it. And if a SteelSeries item is better than the Razer counterpart, I'd get the SS one.

I'm a Razer fan, but not a blind one.

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post Jun 11 2009, 01:53 PM

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I guess that can work. But you'll have to cut it into shape. Plus eXactMats have those 'feet' at it's 4 corners.

But then again, eXactmat is RM90+, and Sphex is RM50+. Not exactly a cheap fix is it?

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post Jun 12 2009, 05:03 AM

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I can vouch for Blacktrix's Mamba review; it was spot on.

Here's mine.
It's bloody fast, yes. You'll need time to get used to it. Or just drop the DPI settings (adjustable to increments of 100DPI) to whatever you're comfortable with. Have no doubts, you'll find your own favourable settings in no time.

What needs to be stressed is that the main attraction point of the Mamba is NOT its speed. No one will ever NEED 5600DPI, nor will anyone use it regularly. It's the 'feel good' factor that brings it to a totally new level in mice history.

I had no mouse jittering problem, it works flawlessly on a Destructor pad. From what I've felt so far (haven't been gaming much lately though), the tracking is very slightly better than the Lachesis (I seem to be getting headshots more easily with slight flick of the wrist), but then again maybe I was just looking for excuses to justify spending so much on a mouse.

I adore the DPI switch buttons. They're by far and away the best ones that I've tried (most recent gaming mice included), and infinitely better than the ones on the Lachesis. You'll need some time to memorise the DPI light displays (all of which are fully customisable), but once you do, you'll be switching between DPI settings like never before.

Can't really say much about the battery life, as I haven't really used it for any hardcore gaming sessions as of yet. Anyhow, that won't be much of a problem as you can just plug the cable into your mouse if you worry it'll die off soon.

As for the difference between wireless and wired mode, there is none. Period.

Ergonomics wise I find it perfectly fine. I rest my whole palm on it, and it feels natural, like I can game for hours and hours without any pains. Love the rubber grips on both sides of the mouse.

All in all it's an almost flawless mouse. I said almost because it's a tad sensitive to the surface it's being used on. For me it works perfectly fine on a Destructor, but it was close to being unusable on a Goliathus Control Ed.

That's about it.

Some might complain about the lack of gimmicky features like adjustable weights or changeable grips. To me they're just that. Gimmicks. The Mamba doesn't need them, it's special enough as it is.

So anyone thinking of getting the Mamba, go get it. You won't regret it. Just make sure you use it on a hard pad.


Oh and apologies to those who find this post TLTR.

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