taken from QJ.net's article, here

Wow, the last statement is a little shocker.

Good and bad.

They'd stop piracy, but at the same time could also limit users who doesn't have an internet connection.

yeah..

i guess second-hand games does affect their markets..

yeah... it seems that piracy didnt affect them so much, but used games is the one.

but that's from the PSP scene, though..

and on the other thread i'm being shoot down when saying developers didn't make any money from 2nd hand games.

some more bring deceased people into argument.

yeah, I was there in that thread..

stumbled upon this articles, then I remembered you being bombarded with facts on your statement about 2nd hand games is killing the developers..

so the man behind the machine stated such...

but, then again, it's the PSP scene..

dunno about the other console, though...

yeah, what i find funny is there's a lot of people chanting support original to help developers but doesn't really know what they're doing is really helpful to the developers or not. "support original" have become like the "in-thing" for today's gamers without really understand the meaning.

hell, i'll say if people really want to support developers, buy a pirated games and the differences from original games, donate it to the developers. that you really supporting them 100%

same goes for xbox?

They should be opening up Paypal donations XD

eventhough it's on PSP scene.. i think it also might affect other console.. only the effect is not too obvious maybe.

wah!! shocking indeed! most of my PS3/360 game are 2nd hand, that means im killing gaming company in advance??

pirated , no money whatsover go to dev
2nd hand , at least when bought new 1st time , the money go to dev. granted that no money for the 2nd time around the game is sold go to dev. which is the same as buying pirated.

so go figure.

new technology need to be develop to curb 2nd hand as well as pirated games. maybe once u pop in the game in ur console , the game bind with that console forever , cant even borrow game from friends when that happens. i always borrow game from my friends. so yay. whatever we do we are screwed. play ori screwed , play pirated screwed. play cock la senang

This post has been edited by esca_flo: Mar 4 2009, 11:18 PM

I think Half-Life 2 got those issues last time, need to fork out $10 if wanna sell the game or share the game.

console die.. we also die...

Which is why everyone is turning to digital distribution.....

I don't mind it that much, but seriously....
With our glorios internet connection we have here, God knows how long it'll take to download a 20GB game off PSN or 9GB game from XBL...

I know they'll be compressed and such, but you know what I mean.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 5 2009, 06:57 AM

it will take till PS4 come to the sale to finished dwling 20gb of PS3 games.....thanks you : Screamyx Operator

next thing you know, the devs will say you have to play games naked in public to help us advertise for our game.
pfft.

on a side note , the breeze u will be getting while doing that is fantastic, not to mention the groping from the public....
actually digital distribution is already here with the psp and console games ( minus ps3 ), its called torrent..... kuikuikui

This post has been edited by esca_flo: Mar 5 2009, 03:12 PM

torrent is the killa.

Torrents has been around way longer, PC gaming suffers the most from this. Not consoles.

so basically the statement holds true.

it's not as bad as piracy (those people STILL buy an original game, then duplicate them illegally and distribute the illegal copies, but they STILL BUY THE ORIGINAL FIRST), but it does affect the industry.

so if really wanna support ori, buy first hand, not second hand.

and while you're at it, also buy ori music (not the download mp3 ones, that's illegal.. remember Napster vs Metallica lawsuit? ), and buy ori software (photoshop = RM 2k - 4k, go figures), and those Microsoft Words you are using, buy 'em original..

Problem is, now a days only the very minority who rips and duplicate games are reserved for the people who actually wants to rip with some sense. They support the industry still, just not entirely.

Games now are leaked from publishers themselves, belief it or not. Its been happening all these years, many of which are some disastified employee leaking the game onto torrent sites(go figure GTA4 and Halo 3).

Music wise... theres iTunes.... not like anyone cares though!

If everyone were to buy retail volumes of Adobe or MS products, they'll not be able to eat for months. Thats why these retail softwares are for companies, not personal usage.

this is why I use Open Office. Its free and I dont have to give a hoot about 'security patches' etc

dont know about consoles but pc games tend to have a limit of how many times u can install it. suck big time! u can't sell some of ur pc games due to this.

One of the reasons why people torrent.

Blame SecurROM, the dumbest piece of security form that has ever surfaced on this planet. Oh while blaming them, blame the producers who use it too on their games.
Why? Because the damn thing is cracked within minutes from the game release. Whats the use of the security then? Waste of time, and limitations for the people who bought it.

and Jack Sparrow's game is still at large, especially here in Malaysia, right?

I think those who actually play the original game is the minority here in Malaysia.

how many of us have actually used 100% original softwares / games / songs / vids or whatever?

people still downloaded their mp3s using kazaa or limewire or whatever..

and not to mention torrent + high speed internet = movie / albums / games haven for everyone...


yeah, if everyone were to buy the original Adobe or MS products, they'll starve for 1 or 2 months, THAT is why most of these people goes for Jack Sparrow instead of the original thing.

face the fact, this is Malaysia's scene.

wat to do , most ppl will definetly think that

i pay rm 66 for 512kps ,this package include fees in

dwlding games
dwdling mp3
dwling movies
dwddling softwares

lolz....

jadi kepada mereka yang boasting guna game original je memanjang, cube check balik, everything in your life is ORIGINAL?

kalau tak, jangan patronize or mocked those who used pirated games in Malaysia...

People who play originals are still the minority here, but if you even have done a slight bit of research, this minority has increased over the past few years.

Torrent + high speed? You joking?

Are you just replying for the sake of replying?
I didn't say anything about people SHOULD GET original software licensees. I'm just implying that they are extremely expensive, and for what its worth, they are only for businesses.


I'm talking about other countries, not Malaysia.
Since when I mocked those who use pirated games in Malaysia?

Better to buy 2nd hand ORI games RATHER than buying a pirated game. Am i right, or am i right?

This post has been edited by Zaryl: Mar 10 2009, 02:23 PM

for me , i buy depend of the need , it if something to do with life and death , i buy ori , like a car , i woul not buy a " pirated " car compponent coz it "may" hasten my journey to my grave

for games....well.......i bought some original games ( like the rm 10 ragnarok online XD )............but most of the time i buy jack sparrow , reason? every supermarket have it.......if choose to buy ori , then have to travel here and there belum tentu jumpa.....XD

my point is , its not right to buy pirated games , but some games are not even worth buying at all , just becoz everyone hype it doesnt meant it suit you..............then after spending alot of money buying the games , u play , ....its suck.....waste money ( even if u sell it u still lost some money also)( oh yeah my most of my pokemon GBA games are originall , buy GOd version for rm 50 @___@ ).......

This post has been edited by Date Masamune: Mar 10 2009, 02:48 PM

i didn't say you mock those people lah.. i was being general..

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Added on March 10, 2009, 4:54 pmdid you read the article posted?

This post has been edited by gunblade: Mar 10 2009, 04:54 PM

when i was downgrade the firmware..my psp...1006...now cant be on as normal..what should i do..plz pm me^^ thx^^

out of topic ftw

.......i guess PS3 is the only reason where i start buying original software. Well, it's not like you even have a choice there....

*shrugs*

Hardcore gamer detected.

piracy or not, 1st Hand or not.. it wont stop.

one thing is true. We will all die . it does not matter if piracy or bla bla bla. no matter what we choose, some day all will end.

they still have money to produce this games even though there are "losing money"

unreal.. macam berfalsafah lah pulak statement ko..

From ur statement i bolded...Wats the point they making games if their will "losing money" by making more games?

generally us malaysians will opt for something cheaper in terms of wants if we have the option to choose. Imagine if the ps3 could play jack sparrow games, i do believe that people have second thoughts about buying those original games. Its not because we support piracy but we feel the money should be spend on things that are much more important. Whatever it is when there is demand there is always be supply.

This post has been edited by opethbleed555: Mar 19 2009, 08:42 PM

u r damn rite.. but pplz alwayz said gaming is luxury...u cannot afford it,then dream for it...

Buy original to play online games, thats it

2bad ps3 still canot be modded yet so dream on to get ahem2 for ps3

Aiyoh, this kind of topic always reverts back to the piracy vs non piracy argument. It's a circle jerk, noone wins. The pirates will still buy pirated games, the ori supporters will continue (either because they don't want their favourite dev to bungkus kedai or for some high and mighty reason).

I just lol at the "more important things part". If faced between a choice of susu anak and a new game, it's a no brainer - or is it?

susu anak and a new game..

uhhh.. now that's a tough one..

I wonder if there's a Brazil hack equivalent for PS3/PSP store. Not fair for Sony to limit store access to Singapore only (and actually, this is the one reason I dun want PS3/PSP. If you don't want my business I dun want your console).

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 28 2009, 07:59 AM

haha...trasa aku wei..
anak aku bru jer msk 15bulan..
haha..thanks timah...
my understanding wife...
nk wat cmne..aku bapak muda..wawa

ko kan kaya..rembat dua2 angkut spuluh skali pun no problemo...

yg kaya bapak aku..
aku ni..bru bjinak2 bisnes..
skrg msih machai bapak aku lg..

haha..nnt leh la panggil tauke besar nafi... xD

wat pa nak gaduh gaduh...yg dah stat bli ori tu bagus lah.. yg mana masih bli pirate tu.. so slow slow lah bertukar pada ori.. kalo takut game tak best downlod lah demo bang.. kalo tak puas ati baca review... then baru decide nak bli ke tak... u all semua dah besar panjang "JADILAH PENGUNA BIJAK"...


some time looking at that slogan, make me feel buying pirate is a clever thing to do.. muahaha

btul3 upin ipin..
how eva it depend on 1 purchasing power..
coz not all ppl born in a silver spoon family..
som of them ikat perut ma...
so sad..

sekarang gawat kena carik jack sparrow

haha...Maestro pun da bankrupt...abes la artis2 depa..lol

agreed on this..
it's not like everybody could afford it. but they do want to enjoy playing games also.
that's why they choose that path. we cant blame them..
it's not like they're poor, so dont play game. it's a cruel thing to say.

if u're poor...study computer programming on ur own, draw ur own characters n make ur own games so u can play it!!!

hahahha

yeah.. some of us choose the dark side because we have no choice..

but most of us choose the dark side becoz it's tempting..

adus...aku bru cdang nk masuk af10
mmg ssh bisnes skunk ni...tp MAKAN..kaya miskin suma makan tuk hidup...

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Added on March 29, 2009, 12:44 pmi chosen the naga site..36..red color (p&c)
hahahaha(off topic) tau ayahanda aku...mau kna sebat


This post has been edited by nafi: Mar 29 2009, 12:44 PM

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