thanks. i couldn't relate your previous post with the one you're quoting with.

anyway, office off!! yieehhaa.

believe it or not.............Goldfries here not really a pro at overclocking.

is this true? if it's, then i misjudge someone.

err Godfries. care to testify?

This post has been edited by uzer85: Mar 4 2009, 05:50 PM

i think if im can get xtra 200~300mhz from current speed, im happy oleady

goldfries expert in oc his blog

hmm, is it true? if so how do you identify a pro overclocker?

well im just posting my opinion bro, its up to the readers whether to except it or not, what i say here are all based on what i've experienced..and yes i know u are trying to say there are cheaper way to overclock and whatnot..

its just that we need to look at the overall picture here, TS just started overclocking, seeking for member's opinion about disadvantages of over clock(stated in thread title) so i give him the disadvantages la,right or wrong is not the point, since it varies depends on the situation u are in. In my point of view Overclocking are expensive, because we need to consider the energy and cost factor during the process of overclocking (eg:energy and money spent on hardwares and searching for guidelines)..

yeah sure we can save RM300-Rm400 in OC, BUT to achieve that goal also incurs other costs other than money, and like some other forumers said, it can be addictive..

to TS:

i say the disadvantages would be the heat, and time required to find the right setting for batter stability. You have to understand that not all procs and hardwares can be pushed to the max without proper cooling and trial and errors...

for now u can enjoy overclocking within the limits of your hardwares with no prob..but later if you want more speed, higher clock,and want to compete in benchies and stuff, be prepared to spend more money...

I overclock because i want to gain more FPS in games, so far it worked, but if i want more FPS, i need to spend more for better cooler and re test my rig before sticking with the new clock setting..u see, more money and time needed....as simple as that...but it sure saves more than buying a new proc, for me both methods costs me a bomb, since im not that rich...

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Mar 4 2009, 06:24 PM

lol since when discussion bcome attking ppl

i think he agree with me...........if not im going to Kamunting for a few weeks.

and im no pro either as i still got lots to learn.

i'm not pro, cos i'm not doing it as profession.
i never claimed to be expert either. however i have this inclination towards fanless silent overclocked gaming pc.......

Now back to topic la guys.

there are few kind of OC, one is maximize the value of the hardware u bought, no matter how low end it is... eg e2140 + G31 mayb...

another 1 is play with expensive hardware and enjoy privilage of ultimate performance....

and also u must consider those extreme and so called pro's... do u think their settings are suitable for 24/7 ? or is it just for benching purpose ?

u must take all these things into consideration, yeah if u wanna compete for world record or mayb go for competition, then u will say that OC is expensive... Dry Ice Pot etc etc...

so, as mentioned again, its depends the budget range of hardware u wanna play with, u must review the purpose of ur overclock, some just to get some free clock over stock, some go for xtreme and wanna beat the record, some wanna smooth out their gaming experience with maximum system performance etc...

stop attacking ppl la... its hard to classify someone as a pro or noob, sometimes pro and noob its just beside each other, a so called pro can easily turn into a noob...

Pro = some one who really into overclock. take it as a job.... get paid from overclocking...

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Mar 4 2009, 06:04 PM

bah............when did i attack people.

btw i just re read some of the post and UV lighting isnt in the same category as OC as far as i know.

really? some get paid to overclock?hehe never knew that.... thanks for the explanation bro.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Mar 4 2009, 06:30 PM

pro = professional... means full time job.

Oc'ing is an addiction. Look at me now, i feel bad. feel like quitting, but I can't. It's destroying my life.

this question is easily answered... overclocking simply "voids" your product warranty... people say as long u dun bump the voltage then u wont get caught, but IF you got found out overclocking by the authority, ur warranty is voided straight away~

other than that, as long u dun increase voltage, there wont be any disadvantages

come on, cut some slack. don't be an as$hole. most of the guys in OC scene takes word pro as being good/elite.

take your dic-ktionary back home.

lol... talk cock also kena bombard....
tis thread seem got lotsa replies since morning... lol... whoever got play games also know pro = elite or good player... i jz talking cock sia... LOL... back to topic leh... getting off topic laio.

aiyah like that you also same la. just chill dude. nothing wrong for someone to explain about the misused terminology.

ok now i'm back, and time to reply..............



i disagree. it's normally the newbies or those who lack knowledge that are actually keep harping that using stock heatsink for overclocking is suicidal.

it's not a matter of stock heatsink or not, it's a matter of knowing what you got and how far you can push with what you got. it's not even risky to OC with stock heatsink to begin with.

so with stock heatsink, there are the stable limitations on how far it can be overclocked. (notice i didn't use the word SAFE). and beyond the limit, it gets warm thus lead to instability. either that or overheat, which it'll power down. so what risk of frying la? it's just a matter of vs heat. stock heatsink has it's limitation but certainly not incapable of steady overclocking.

and to add, newbies always focus so much on heatsink but often they forgot casing airflow. LOL. so it's not going to get any better with 3rd party coolers. even 3rd party coolers have their limitation.

bottom line stock heatsinks are plenty capable for certain overclocking, OCing without vcore raises don't add that much to temperature.



damn funny la. obviously when i say RM 200 - 300 is NEW mobo la.

i don't see the point of bringing old mobo into the picture here as we're talking about inexpensive setup. old stuff are inherited, you can call that cheap setup but if it's limited then it's hardware problem and doesn't in anyway justify what you've posted thus far.

multiplier adjustments? LOL. please la, look at the Intel processors - the multiplier you can adjust lower, not higher, unless it's those processor with unlocked multiplier.

and please la (again) we're talking on BIOS overclocking all the while, and stock BIOS is not a problem for overclocking. probably you're expecting something super overclocked but your post doesn't paint the actual picture in overclocking where many of the default BIOS also already could do decent overclocking.



every component has it's limitation, but again you're going off the track.

let's look at what you posted earlier.



LOL. it's laughable at best.

so you're saying using value RAM is less stable?

and what do you mean by risk of bottlenecking? what risk?

my point is that your post is clearly misleading, without a counter post like mine, newbies to OCing would probably have been mislead (they already are, you're just adding to it) that high-performance RAM = OCing. that's why we're getting a lot of shitty post at HW Q&A.

look at the Kingston Value RAM using BT-D43 chips, they were value RAMs but they were AWESOME in overclocking.

even my Kingston Value RAM DDR2 667 using Hynix chips can do DDR2 ~750 speed with no problems.

so firstly you're talking about needing performance RAM to stabilize and whatever then now you say limitation.



OVERCLOCKING = meaning to run the things beyond stated operating specs. in the case of OCing processor, it's a matter of changing of settings involving the multipler and FSB, and doing additional adjustments such as vcore, fsb:cpu ratio, RAM settings and those who prefer more advanced settings could even adjust the voltage for NB, RAM timings and so on so forth - it's all within the BIOS. the most the person has to touch is the JUMPER to reset CMOS if needed.

so what assembling skills you need? i could assemble a whole PC and pass to my neighbour and teach him to OC, and he'll still be able to OC successfully without knowledge of assembly, already proof that ASSEMBLY skill is not a pre-requisite to learn OCing.

*sorry la i may edit a bit here and there. long winded can miss out things.*

This post has been edited by goldfries: Mar 4 2009, 11:40 PM

meh. i missed the lol value of that post.

@goldfries: tl;dr
but i get what you mean