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suiteng
post Mar 18 2009, 03:50 PM

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UOB dun lemme cancel my supp card. vmad.gif Say must keep the supp card and swipe 12 times else my principle card will be charged annual fees vmad.gif

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suiteng
post Mar 25 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Mar 18 2009, 04:07 PM)
@suiteng,
Er.. but if U cancelled the supp card, U wouldn't be paying fees for the supp card, just the principle card right?!
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According to the cancellation department, "Your card come as twin cards, hence cancelling any of the cards will affect the remaining card." sweat.gif

BTW, any EON credit card salesperson here? I wanna apply to use it to pay for my Car Insurance with EPP plan so might as well give you a chance to earn commission.
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post Mar 25 2009, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Mar 25 2009, 05:38 PM)
oredi pm u....
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Sudah apply walk in. I do things very fast wan ok tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2009, 10:39 AM

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I guess the best BT plan still public bank wan hmm.gif
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post Apr 17 2009, 07:19 PM

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Most ridiculous telephone conversation I have ever, with EON bank CS.

Me : Hi, good day
CS : IC pls
Me : ... *mood spoiled* gives IC number
CS : *bla bla verification question* Ok
Me : ... ok, so I would like to check my application status
CS : Your application for EON bank GOLD card had been approved.
Me : I didn't apply for a gold card? Mine's classic.
CS : It says GOLD card ms.
Me : Means it's wrong.
CS : It's an upgrade offer to you.
Me : Nobody called me for approval.
CS : Why you don't want a gold card?
Me : Cos I need to swipe for 24 times instead of 12 times for classic card
CS : You can cancel it in 6 months.
Me : But I've done a BT
CS : So you need to fully settle it before cancel.
Me : So I've paid interest upfront and I need to fully settle it just to terminate the card?
CS : That's right.
Me : My BT ties to a 12 months plan.
CS : Then you need to utilize the card for 12 months and cancel it.
Me : So EON bank is forcing me to use the card?
CS : You've applied for it.
Me : I've applied for a classic card.
CS : We offered you a GOLD card, it's an upgrade.
Me : What's your name please?
CS : ...
Me : What's your name?
CS : Keepa
Me : Did you know you need to introduce yourself instead of just asking for IC number and all those verification question? You didn't even greet me.
CS : Do you want to cancel your card?
Me : .... doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM)
facts: you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)

honestly, the banks like customers like you. the interest you pay can never match the amount they get from merchant credit card charges. they try their best to keep you. they love you (no pun intended)

if you actually believed that they upgraded you to gold simply and the fact that this would further tie you down did not cross their mind, you may be wrong.
they may had it all planned. they know your cannot cancel your card now.
now you just have to check the terms, most probably you could demand for classic back, but hmmm it's gonna be tiring.

FYI, look again, any of you guys already getting the slightest idea that the customer service officer above is "well trained" The staff asked if you want to cancel your card, not if you insist on changing back to classic. If the staff it a normal credit card agent, die die also give you classic, dun want you dun have card with them.
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Don't mix facts with assumptions. rolleyes.gif

Oh yeah, I forgot. Never argue with an idiot.
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 08:48 PM)
nice try, when you made the wrong joke letting it all out
anyway say what you want, the post was for other people's education, not really a reply to you
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Quoting my post with lots of "yous" and say it's not a reply to me? Please change "facts" to "assumptions" as they were not "facts" to my case if you intend to educate people.

At least some ppl agreed that the CS is an idiot, which is why I stopped talking to her about that and went straight to complains to get my classic card back.

But I don't understand what you mean by joke and letting it all out, can explain?


Added on April 18, 2009, 9:03 pm
QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 08:48 PM)
you CANNOT DO balance transfer in Malaysia if you don't have outstanding balances with interests
so there are no assumptions here. and hope you're not going to say you meant BT as bluetooth.
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Why can't I do a balance transfer if my monthly expenses (auto debit etc) is 3k monthly? wink.gif

This month I itchy secured another property so I did a balance transfer for the fun of it whistling.gif

This thread is to educate people on credit cards, not passing judgments.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 18 2009, 09:03 PM
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post Apr 18 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 09:26 PM)
ohhh balance transfer for property loan?
nice try again....your phone call is about credit card balance transfer remember?
or are you going to say you pay your "property" using "credit card" installments. LOL
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Simple.

Every month I pay 3k to credit card.
This month I didn't wanna pay, so I BT'ed and use the cash which is supposed to pay for my credit card to book a property.
Then I flip the property and earn fast money.

What you mean by nice try? I really don't understand where are you getting at.
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post Apr 18 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 09:59 PM)
when you do BT you have oustanding balance, if you say you did not pay for a month and BT, the bank just bought the chance to collect your interests from the other bank by giving you a more competitive repayment rate.

they did not simply transfer your auto debit without a balance to transfer in which they charge you interests.
so you are still paying interests for credit card, so what I said about the bank wanting to keep you is not an assumption.

you may say the returns from the property is higher in the end, but noone is arguing about that
that is why I don't understand what you mean by assumption, balance transfer means you have defaulted payment to pay and the banks will try to keep you cause you make them richer.
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What you mean by transfer auto debit without a balance transfer which charge interest?
Interest for BT is paid upfront which is low. If I settle every month there isn't a single cent of interest they will get from me, so why keep me?

If you say they intend to keep me, my BT repayment is 12 months and classic card only needs 12 swipes to waive annual fee (1 auto debit = 1 swipe = I used it for motor insurance EPP). Upgrading me to gold card with 24 swipes just gonna make me cancel the card without thinking twice after 12 months coz of the annual fee. Where's the logic of keeping a customer? wink.gif

And for your last statement, how can they get richer if they can't even charge me any interest every month?

You're assuming that I did not settle my payment (by saying that I'm still paying interests for credit card). The fact is, I always settle my payment (bank ain't getting any moolah from me except the tiny upfront interest).

Back to the main point, don't mix assumptions with facts.
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post Apr 18 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 10:25 PM)
bolded.
you cancel your card, they still win, becase you paid upfront some moolah to them.
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Explain your bolded "facts" then.

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM)
facts: you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
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You're assuming that I did not pay full payments and always pay late payment interest? It's not a fact. It's your assumption.

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 10:25 PM)
you're trying to tell that you don't pay your bills late and no overdue payments? ohh. ok, but i never asked
you did a BT....so you paid them to the same effect.
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Which is why I said it's not a fact, it's your assumption. wink.gif

Monthly interest and upfront interest does not have the same effect as the amount differs. That's a fact.

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 08:48 PM)
nice try, when you made the wrong joke about customer service letting it all out
anyway, the post was for other people's education, not really a reply to you

you CANNOT DO balance transfer in Malaysia if you don't have outstanding balances with interests
so there are no assumptions here. and hope you're not going to say you meant BT as bluetooth.
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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 09:26 PM)
ohhh balance transfer for property loan?
nice try again....your phone call is about credit card balance transfer remember?
or are you going to say you pay your "property" using "credit card" installments. LOL
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From your replies, it seems like you're mocking me to accept your so called "facts" even it's untrue.

How should it educate people when you draw your own assumption and call it a fact? Should I say, "Nice try"?

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 18 2009, 11:14 PM
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post Apr 19 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 11:56 PM)
anyway the message is delivered and it is clear for ppl to see.

monthly interests vs upfront interests
and i am making assumptions?
let's say you pay your cc full ammount every month
but you TOOK A BT this month

1)so this month you did not pay full payment is correct
2) you pay late payment interests = yes, which was subsidized by your new BT-ed bank
3) you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
(yes the previous bank would have charged you the same ammount as if you skipped payment, then your new bank have subsidized it with their BT rate, and they paid your old bank)


then they bill you monthly which you may pay promptly
but this is already an installment of the overdue balance already
they may not charge you more if you pay this on time
but they already charged you ahead for this installment in the first place

we all of us know very well you did not take the BT for fun, like you said previously.
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Bolding your assumptions.

Firstly, learn how to separate outstanding amount and statement balance.
Secondly, learn how interest is charged.
Thirdly, learn how to skip those interest.

What you're saying in the bolded words are your assumptions that late payment interest must be paid by BT-ed bank. In my case, there wasn't any late payment interest. Capiche?

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 11:56 PM)
no one's mocking you, look at your posts, you seem to be very sentimental on thinking if anyone is saying you're defaulting payments  every month and going in circles.
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This will be the last time I'm quoting this and I'm not going to quote the words that you denied using again.
QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM)
facts: you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 10:25 PM)
you're trying to tell that you don't pay your bills late and no overdue payments? ohh. ok, but i never asked
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Are you still trying to deny putting your own assumption into the post and rendering it as facts?

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 19 2009, 12:15 AM
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post Apr 19 2009, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 19 2009, 12:28 AM)
your current statement balance due for that month is considered outstanding already when you did the BT
1) i am not gonna waste time replying to your around the bush replies again.
2) let people see for themselves since this thread is pinned
3) you are one of the smart alec, who tried to do BT for fun by paying "special interests"
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First bold, you've already got the definition wrong.
Second bold, I'll let others see for themselves how you draw your own conclusion when you can't support your "facts" anymore.

And a word of advice, there are ways to mingle with the loop holes in the finance world. If you don't know how, ask, you will gain something. If you're stubborn with your "facts", you will learn nothing.

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM)
facts: you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
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Let me fix your "facts" if you intend to educate people.

QUOTE(aeronic @ Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM)
Assuming : you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
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Then your scenario is correct.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 19 2009, 01:10 AM

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