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aeronic
post Apr 18 2009, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Apr 17 2009, 07:19 PM)
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CS : Why you don't want a gold card?
Me : Cos I need to swipe for 24 times instead of 12 times for classic card
CS : You can cancel it in 6 months.
Me : But I've done a BT
CS : So you need to fully settle it before cancel.
Me : So I've paid interest upfront and I need to fully settle it just to terminate the card?
CS : That's right.
Me : My BT ties to a 12 months plan.
CS : Then you need to utilize the card for 12 months and cancel it.
Me : So EON bank is forcing me to use the card?
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facts: you did a balance transfer -> you do not pay full payments -> you pay late payment interests -> you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)

honestly, the banks like customers like you. the interest you pay can never match the amount they get from merchant credit card charges. they try their best to keep you. they love you (no pun intended)

if you actually believed that they upgraded you to gold simply and the fact that this would further tie you down did not cross their mind, you may be wrong.
they may had it all planned. they know your cannot cancel your card now.
now you just have to check the terms, most probably you could demand for classic back, but hmmm it's gonna be tiring.

FYI, look again, any of you guys already getting the slightest idea that the customer service officer above is "well trained" The staff asked if you want to cancel your card, not if you insist on changing back to classic. If the staff it a normal credit card agent, die die also give you classic, dun want you dun have card with them.

This post has been edited by aeronic: Apr 18 2009, 08:09 PM
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:04 PM

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from the list of cool dudes who did comparison on CC earlier etc.
anyone knows about the ambank credit card deal for the HP Mini Netbook? heard from another thread someone saying that HP told him that it will not be officially launched in MY untill the Ambank Credit Card promo for this netbook is over? any idea?
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Apr 18 2009, 08:38 PM)
Don't mix facts with assumptions.  rolleyes.gif

Oh yeah, I forgot. Never argue with an idiot.
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nice try, when you made the wrong joke about customer service letting it all out
anyway, the post was for other people's education, not really a reply to you

you CANNOT DO balance transfer in Malaysia if you don't have outstanding balances with interests
so there are no assumptions here. and hope you're not going to say you meant BT as bluetooth.

This post has been edited by aeronic: Apr 18 2009, 08:57 PM
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post Apr 18 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Apr 18 2009, 08:58 PM)
This month I itchy secured another property so I did a balance transfer for the fun of it whistling.gif
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ohhh balance transfer for property loan?
nice try again....your phone call is about credit card balance transfer remember?
or are you going to say you pay your "property" using "credit card" installments. LOL
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post Apr 18 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Apr 18 2009, 09:30 PM)
Simple.

Every month I pay 3k to credit card.
This month I didn't wanna pay, so I BT'ed and use the cash which is supposed to pay for my credit card to book a property.
Then I flip the property and earn fast money.

What you mean by nice try? I really don't understand where are you getting at.
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when you do BT you have oustanding balance, if you say you did not pay for a month and BT, the bank just bought the chance to collect your interests from the other bank by giving you a more competitive repayment rate.

they did not simply transfer your auto debit without a balance to transfer in which they charge you interests.
so you are still paying interests for credit card, so what I said about the bank wanting to keep you is not an assumption.

you may say the returns from the property is higher in the end, but noone is arguing about that
that is why I don't understand what you mean by assumption, balance transfer means you have defaulted payment to pay and the banks will try to keep you cause you make them richer.
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post Apr 18 2009, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Apr 18 2009, 10:18 PM)
What you mean by transfer auto debit without a balance transfer which charge interest?
Interest for BT is paid upfront which is low. If I settle every month there isn't a single cent of interest they will get from me, so why keep me?

If you say they intend to keep me, my BT repayment is 12 months and classic card only needs 12 swipes to waive annual fee (1 auto debit = 1 swipe = I used it for motor insurance EPP). Upgrading me to gold card with 24 swipes just gonna make me cancel the card without thinking twice after 12 months coz of the annual fee. Where's the logic of keeping a customer? wink.gif

And for your last statement, how can they get richer if they can't even charge me any interest every month?

You're assuming that I did not settle my payment (by saying that I'm still paying interests for credit card). The fact is, I always settle my payment (bank ain't getting any moolah from me except the tiny upfront interest).

Back to the main point, don't mix assumptions with facts.
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bolded. u paid the same upfont fee that all balance transferers pay no matter how little your balance is.
you cancel your card, they still win, becase you paid upfront some moolah to them.

you're trying to tell that you don't pay your bills late and no overdue payments? ohh. ok, but i never asked
you did a BT....so you paid them to the same effect.

This post has been edited by aeronic: Apr 18 2009, 10:45 PM
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post Apr 18 2009, 11:56 PM

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no one's mocking you, look at your posts, you seem to be very sentimental on thinking if anyone is saying you're defaulting payments every month and going in circles.

anyway the message is delivered and it is clear for ppl to see.

monthly interests vs upfront interests
and i am making assumptions?
let's say you pay your cc full ammount every month
but you TOOK A BT this month

1)so this month you did not pay full payment is correct
2) you pay late payment interests = yes, which was subsidized by your new BT-ed bank
3) you are a credit card defaulter (before you did a balance transfer)
(yes the previous bank would have charged you the same ammount as if you skipped payment, then your new bank have subsidized it with their BT rate, and they paid your old bank)

then they bill you monthly which you may pay promptly
but this is already an installment of the overdue balance already
they may not charge you more if you pay this on time
but they already charged you ahead for this installment in the first place

we all of us know very well you did not take the BT for fun, like you said previously.
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post Apr 19 2009, 12:28 AM

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your current statement balance due for that month is considered outstanding already when you did the BT
1) i am not gonna waste time replying to your around the bush replies again.
2) let people see for themselves since this thread is pinned
3) you are one of the smart alec, who tried to do BT for fun by paying "special interests"

EDITED: Example on the post below:
twist and turn, this coming from someone who "went thru the looholes' and paid some extra moolah in the name BT with a different name for the fun of it. sounds like she's talking to herself. nice..

This post has been edited by aeronic: Apr 19 2009, 01:14 AM
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post Jun 2 2009, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Jun 2 2009, 11:46 AM)
just called hsbc and yep cant combine the limit  doh.gif 

the weird thing is i cant even cancel the premier card as long as i maintain their premier account  shakehead.gif somemore the cs keep saying its actually higher level than platinum  hmm.gif  din notice any special oso except the golf privilege.

actually im thinking citi haf more privileges as in shopping discount , whr scb i seldom saw their promotion. citi oso can enter klia lounge ma ... even if i keep the citi i would onli use when thr is special discount for citi member , other than tht rather use those with rebate. for low transaction , any1 haf experience in waiving its annual fee?
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does the premier card allow access to airport lounge at KLIA?
their "higher" may not be your "higher"
it is subjective depending on what you need
theirs could be just a "feeling"

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