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Bodybuilding Bodybuilding Thread V5, Lets pump some blood into some muscles

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post Apr 8 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 8 2009, 11:16 PM)
quick q, what should i expect from 45 minutes of gym-ing weekdays for 3 months?
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No one can tell for sure except you. But generally, you should expect increases in strength and size, if you do things properly.

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QUOTE(alzaim @ Apr 8 2009, 10:38 PM)
ahhh..will do...
what do you increase when you do cardio..
from your diet compared to no cardio days?
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good nutrition should always be constant. Figure out what works best for your body and stick with it.
If you have to stray from the diet, label those as cheat meals and try to keep it under 2 a week.

There's a link on the page mofolynx posted that has good nutrition advice that go with the cardio + weight training regiment :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satter3.htm


QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 8 2009, 11:16 PM)
quick q, what should i expect from 45 minutes of gym-ing weekdays for 3 months?
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This question is too general and as been asked too many times in here.

If you are serious about fitness, you should not have any expectations. Instead, have goals.

How many times a week do you workout? What sort of exercise do you do? What is your diet like? What is your current body state? Do you get enough resT?

From the info you've given, I can just tell you to expect lots of pain and soreness from your muscles. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 8 2009, 11:16 PM)
quick q, what should i expect from 45 minutes of gym-ing weekdays for 3 months?
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depends how u do it and depends on ur diet.
depends on ur genetic...
and... MANY factors la bro... haha...
but definitely better than the way u r now. =.=
unless u go in see gals... then no comment.

3 months gym? i think u will increase ur strength by some %.
even if u carry 3kg dumbell everyday, by 3 months i bet u can at least carry 5kg.
this is just an example.

so... nth for u to lose, but lots to expect from...
its how u do it.
nobody can say wat to expect.
i have started gym for 7 weeks
now my record is : (base on 1RM)

deadlift - 140kg
squat - 115kg
bench press - 85-90kg

well, it all depends on individual... so we cant judge for u bro...
All the best! =.=
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 8 2009, 11:25 PM)
No one can tell for sure except you. But generally, you should expect increases in strength and size, if you do things properly.
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what should i do first? i've been in sedentary mode since .. well, standard 3
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:31 PM

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hi i am new here. can i ask y Tanita weight scale and fat caliper give me two different body fat readings and the different is big... eg tanita shows 20% but caliper only 12-14%.... which one is the accurate one?? thanks
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:34 PM

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post Apr 8 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2009, 08:22 PM)
I've managed to gain from 59KG to 77KG with my bodyfat levels being just about the same as it was when I began. Probably slightly higher with 2% more bf but that's probably because I've not watched my diet since the past year. There is a method of doing it, and it's not even as complex or troublesome as the velocity diet and all that.
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yea, i am still experimenting with my diet... cz jz really follow it for 2weeks, cant see any difference yet...

thanks for the info pizzaboy

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 8 2009, 09:06 PM)
Okay I didn't want to post at the last post of the page lol. Thanks Kirks for taking that post

Anyway I found my resource. Why do I spend 30 minutes of my time looking this up? Because, because, because a lot of people on LYN (or anywhere else for that matter) thinks that cardio is bad for you. How can something so healthy be bad for you?! Insane.

First off: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satter2.htm
Second very informative thread with great replies by Layne Norton (that guy is a beast)

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=99420

There's so much to be gained from cardio.
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thanks for the info bro... then i will continue my cardio routine...

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These few days I noticed there are a couple of big guys hanging around at Bukit Beruang at around 6.30pm for dinner. I wonder if it's anyone of you guys there.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2009, 09:00 PM)
You know...can I use this example again? Okay I'll use it. Boxers and a lot of MMA fighters who move up a weight class, actually do it via conditioning circuits? It is probably the only way they will move up a weight class.

This is because bigger boxers have bigger punches but also high conditioning levels. To get stronger but lose your conditioning is akin to buying a riced up R34 without petrol.

Cardio isn't wrong for bulking. It's just excessive cardio that kills it. That's why conditioning circuits are always gold.
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Conditioning as in those in Ross Training's Magic 50 and No Excuses stuff?
Are there any other conditioning exercises?

QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 8 2009, 09:06 PM)
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Good stuff there, Mofo! Thanks for digging it up.
Basically we're supposed do some serious HIIT lah. Damn, I've been neglecting cardio for so long. No wonder my belly is starting to become more and more boroi!
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That Satterwhite article mentioned this:
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And because contracting muscle has an insulting-like action (you probably call it the "pump"), all the extra movement from the cardio will be drawing more IGF-I in to cells. So it would be wise to find some type of cardio that uses a lot of different muscle groups.

You guys reckon running is enough for "a lot of different muscle groups"?
Running HIIT plus some conditioning work?
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HIIT is good enough. Breathing hard, running, flailing your arms around like a girl.

Basically you get a lot of anabolic hormones kicking in when you do your cardio. Improves recovery and helps you get big. Like heavy squats do. So win win win!

(at least that's what I gathered from reading the article a few months ago)
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Now only you share!
*smacks Mofonyx in the head with a dumbbell.
Heh heh heh!




But still, thanks again.
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post Apr 9 2009, 01:26 AM

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Haha I should start a separate thread.

Will do so when I have time. I did some HIIT vs LISS research a while back. On top of that, also Pre/Post-HIIT nutrition, fasted state vs fed state cardio.


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QUOTE(Florian @ Apr 8 2009, 11:50 PM)
These few days I noticed there are a couple of big guys hanging around at Bukit Beruang at around 6.30pm for dinner. I wonder if it's anyone of you guys there.
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try asking them?
where they eat?
i am all the time in bukit beruang too...
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Haha perasan.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 9 2009, 04:37 AM)
Haha perasan.
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nono... i am asking where they eat, so that i can go see myself.
big guys? haha... dude i am small. =.=
short and fat...
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 9 2009, 01:36 AM)
try asking them?
where they eat?
i am all the time in bukit beruang too...
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I din see them eating, I saw them walking around looking for a place to sit, then I didn't care liao. Can see the obvious differences la, between the "normal" MMU guys and the weightlifters.

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If you hit the gym hard, taking whey and other supplements. No need few years, 1 year time your whole body can be a bad ass.

Most people they train 3 days per week, if you train like 5 - 6 days per week. Fuhhh!

Muscles koyak orgasm only last for 1 - 2 days, and you don't workout each muscle once a week. Once the koyak orgasm is gone, you kasi koyak more! I rike it! hands.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM)
If you hit the gym hard, taking whey and other supplements. No need few years, 1 year time your whole body can be a bad ass.

Most people they train 3 days per week, if you train like 5 - 6 days per week. Fuhhh!

Muscles koyak orgasm only last for 1 - 2 days, and you don't workout each muscle once a week. Once the koyak orgasm is gone, you kasi koyak more! I rike it! hands.gif
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i dun really get it why u keep using muscle koyak orgasm?
tak paham wat u trying to say. =.=

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 9 2009, 01:55 PM)
i dun really get it why u keep using muscle koyak orgasm?
tak paham wat u trying to say. =.=
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this one ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasm
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 9 2009, 01:55 PM)
i dun really get it why u keep using muscle koyak orgasm?
tak paham wat u trying to say. =.=
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Haha, just for the fun of it. wink.gif

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