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darklight79
post May 27 2009, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 26 2009, 11:14 PM)
obviously, its also easier to hope to get 6 pack rather than doing
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Nice training session. Gym was insanely crowded. Still... hope you had fun. Lol.
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post May 27 2009, 02:26 AM

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You've got muscle memory. Same as me bro, I'm still not at full strength yet in the gym. I still feel pretty weak. Maybe one more week and my weights will be back to full poundages.
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post May 27 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(v1rtual @ May 27 2009, 11:17 AM)
is it okay to do weight in the morning and then swim in the afternoon?
heard something like muscle wont grow if we do certain cardio after weight lifting..is that right?
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It's fine. Don't overdo it though. Too much cardio leads to muscle loss.
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post Jun 1 2009, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 31 2009, 08:33 PM)
guys, after August I won't be so regularly working out in gym anymore, probably 1 week only 2-3 days in campus gym only, what I am worrying is, will the achieved muscle strength diminish after a long time of idle?

last time got an instructor saying that after long time of inactivity, the muscle strength is still there but it takes around half month to fully recovered to the point before, is that true?
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Of course. Most of your strength loss during a layoff will be neural but some of it will be due to muscle atrophy.
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post Jun 2 2009, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 1 2009, 11:05 PM)
Damn, just noticed you uploaded a new video onto youtube. Scary weights!
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Damn... you caught on fast. How the hell did you notice it so quickly? Lol. Actually that was my first set. The second set was heavier. =P Uploading in a while.

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post Jun 2 2009, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Jun 2 2009, 02:19 AM)
muahaha... i was right there when darkie took the weights.
coz... i am the one who took the video.
muahaha... crazy siot. =.=
i barely can do a dumbell row with that weight. muahaha...
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Damn they were heavy. I should have started with the 110's, I would've been at full strength, the second set was a damn killer. The vids are posted at the progress thread.
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(John91 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:24 AM)
Hey just wanna ask, is it ok to take creatine without taking whey? Cuz creatine is cheaper and its the only thing I can afford for now. My protein intake from food is slightly above moderate I guess.
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QUOTE(John91 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:49 AM)
I'm not getting enough tho. Not reaching the 1g protein for 1lb weight yet. Moderate as in around 90g's- 100g's a day. Cuz most people opt for whey rather than creatine.
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Whey is not needed if you have enough protein. I'm serious. I've already stopped whey a few weeks back. Been fine tuning my diet and am lifting rather crazy poundages and making good progress.

If there was a number 1 supplement I would pick, creatine first, whey second.
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post Jun 2 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Jun 2 2009, 11:40 AM)
guys. i`ve changed my workout routines for 5 day per week.

leg
back
bicept
tricept
shoulders and traps

abs when i got some energy left on those five workout days.
i tried one bodypart per day so i could do an intense workout specially for that body part.

what do you guys think with this plan??
i`m not really sure that i got enough recovery time or not...
so.. i`m gonna need ur advise on tihs please.
btw, i`m taking on whey and creatine on post workout
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Waste of time if you're just doing biceps on one day and triceps on another day. Combine both for a training day. Chest workout?
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post Jun 2 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Jun 2 2009, 12:21 PM)
owh. i forgot. i did chest with tricept.


Added on June 2, 2009, 12:38 pm
i used to 3-4days workout but now i got a lot of free time i`m gonna change it to five days.

so i guest i`ll combined bicept and tricept..

leg
back
arms
chest
shoulders and traps.

2 days rest icon_rolleyes.gif
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Mine is
Chest
Back
Legs
Shoulders
Arms
Weekends off for partying, shisha, getting high, etc, whatever.
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 2 2009, 06:31 PM)
While we're on the topic of routines, anyone care to take a look at mine and possibly give some suggestions where necessary?

Gym's closed on monday. So it's either cardio or rest.
Tuesday: Chest, biceps
Wednesday: Abs and I'm gonna start getting in HIIT or whatever helps to increase my stamina for my other sports.
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Legs
Saturday: Back, triceps
Sunday: Rest.
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Looks solid. Keep to that routine. You have sufficient spacing before each bodypart is hit again.

QUOTE(ayoi86 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:33 PM)
hai guys..

Just want to share a little bit la.. ever since i took 3 scoops of whey a day i can see my urine change a bit dark/concentrated and a bit frothy..

My body weight is 144 pound and my weight is 170cm.. usually i do workout for 1 1/2 - 2 hours, 3 times a week..

Any idea with this
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post Jun 3 2009, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 3 2009, 12:03 AM)
Alright, will do. Actually took me a while to realize my previous routine was pretty screwed up before I came up with this.  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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Yeah, cos a lot of people don't realize that even if a trainee is on a conventional bodybuilding split of hitting one bodypart a week, a muscle gets targeted more than once. If you do back, you're already indirectly hitting your biceps. And working chest will hit shoulders and tris, working shoulders will hit a bit of chest and some tris, etc. You get the idea. So your split is pretty fine. Just make sure you hammer the hell out of a bodypart because you're going on a once a week frequency.

QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jun 3 2009, 01:10 AM)
ok... ive tried the 

day1 gym
day2 gym
rest
day3 gym
day4 gym
rest
rest (optional)

it doesnt work...
few things i picked up 4 months into training seriously (for me)

ive been keeping my protein intake to a minimum 100g  per day. at least
for the past  week....
this has improved my recovery TROMENDOUSLY.....

... eveytime i tune my workout i learn more things about how i need to train.... currently my level is slightly above  beginer...
weights have increased slightly..technique..

benching technique definitely had some change..

3 muscle groups per day is too many.  i wana hit my muscles HARD and heavy so i am gonna reduce it to two...

doing so wil enable me to train constantly and still have time to recover...

tentative change of plan....

chest + triceps
legs + shoulders
back + biceps

per day only 6-8 exercises.....

another thing which i need to address is the time taken to finish my routine.... . gonna time myself next... updates at my page starting....... tomorrow smile.gif

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Might I suggest something? Change your tentative plan to:-
Chest and biceps
Rest
Shoulders and legs
Rest
Back and tris
Rest
Repeat

I'm never a fan of hitting both pulling muscles or pushing muscles on the same day. After doing chest your tris are fatigued and your strength will be suboptimal ----> suboptimal poundages-----> suboptimal gains. Hit the muscle when it's fresh, not when it's prefatigued from a previous larger bodypart from the same session.
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post Jun 3 2009, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jun 3 2009, 01:35 AM)
hmmm.. i see.. ... because i have been doing the chest + triceps combi fer a while now...i really feeel the pinch... every exercise subsequenty has reduced power to downright failure... (DUUUH)..

well ...i am still learning....

oh yea darkie..you guys were discussing the leg drive a while back....i cant seem to do it... when i flex my leg muscles...they cramp..... i dont know why...its always like this.. hence the reason ive been avoiding hamstring curls...i cramp very easily...

currently ran out of booster also...so as expected...my failure set has been reduced..... but i think its beter without the booster.. not enough bang per buck.. id rather invest the money in good food....

im am about 25-30% of my target at the moment....
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Jun 3 2009, 01:40 AM)
hmmm... i think u need to learn how to position urself properly for bench press. i can really feel the difference using my leg to drive the strength up to push the bloody barbell up. when the verge of failure, use ur legs to give u the extra push for another rep or two.
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jun 3 2009, 01:49 AM)
my positioning i would say is about 70% .... need to strengthen my forearm so that i can maintain a strong grip and prevent wrist movement.....

when i bench ..my shoulders are tucked in and  chest out....
..how to say ar.. im resting on my traps which are flexed..... can understand.... definitly need to work on the core hardness and stuff

but i highly doubt cramps are due to position.. because they in different situations...... even while im sitting normally....if i suddenly "tekan " my hams...can cram wan...very weird...duno why..
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You both should not be too concerned about leg drive IF your goals are bodybuilding. Using too many accessory muscles will take away focus from the chest. The role of legs in a bodybuilding bench press is to stabilize, that's mostly it. Why do you think we prefer dumbell presses? Leg drive plays no role in that, it focuses on maximal chest development. Even in Milos Sarcev's video about the flat barbell bench press, he doesn't mention anything about leg drive.

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 3 2009, 11:30 AM)
How about 2 day split ? can like this ?

chest, back , bicep , abs

Legs, Shoulder , tricep and calf
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That's gonna be hard. Like an upper/lower body split.
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post Jun 3 2009, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 3 2009, 01:14 PM)
Last time I weighed myself I was 62kg. Now I'm hovering around 64-65kg. I don't think I've gained much, or any, fat (at least the mirror says so) so I can only hope it's muscle mass.  tongue.gif
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How tall are you? 5 feet 8?
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 3 2009, 04:09 PM)
I'm 172cm. That's about 5' 7/8", I think, right?
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Then i should be your height, maybe a lil bit taller. Can you imagine me at 50 kg before i started weightlifting? Lol!
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jun 4 2009, 12:33 AM)
hi there..long time havent visit H&F..anyways need some advice on what im observing..

im 6'3,85kg...problem is ive been 85kg for far too many months now..but i can definately see myself bigger and  more defined..im eating a lot..just have no idea why my weight is not going up..

my target weight is 90kg.. biggrin.gif

any advice is most welcomed..cheers!
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I hope you realize that if you talking about pure muscle mass, gaining around 2.5 kg is considered an accomplishment for an intermediate trainee. Gain any faster and it's fat.
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post Jun 6 2009, 04:43 PM

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Hey guys. Need to start a new progress thread. This one's at page 125. How? Is jones007 still around? Or shall we request a mod to close it?
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Guys, bebeq is a serious attention whore. He tried threatening me on msn. Lol, and let me guess, he's been pm'ing everyone of you to prove that he's no small fry. He even pm'ed yingjee and asked if he can show her his personal pics. I know he's done that to JonYeap too and quite a few of you. You know what? I've seen this fool, he may be cut but he's small, it's just that. Small. Now i don't care if he's small, but he's talking like he's Mr Universe. Geez... this guy has serious attention deficit issues. He's worse than ANYONE I've ever met on H & F.

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Jun 7 2009, 11:11 AM)
Who is this bebeq guy? Sounds kinda familiar.
Any pics of him?
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Kinda lean but small. Not worth the trouble. I've seen his pics. And his leanness isn't that impressive. Any regular guy can achieve that with the proper amount of dieting. My issue is with him threatening me on msn after adding me. Then the lame thing is pm'ing other members privately to ask them if he can show them their pics. Geez.... he couldn't take it after a girl flamed him in my journal so he pm'ed her and asked her the same thing, to show her his pics on msn webcam.
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jun 9 2009, 12:33 AM)
huh..bata..u think u so strong issit...wanna go bb show all.. HMMPH PLZ LA.. take a look in the mirror la.... oh MY GODDD......
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. kidding  smile.gif... ahhaha....i was bored...so i decided to tempt flame war... no offense ok... we all know u strrrooong

im sure a lot of ppl ready to type fast fast adi ahahhahaa
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Bro, that was a bit too much. sad.gif No bodybuilder likes to be called small even in a joking way.
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jun 9 2009, 02:03 PM)
ahahhaa... nola...  i dont mind being called small smile.gif ... the rest of u ar big la.... sorry... i think i got a bit high on ............
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im not sure what larh... they put sum additive into my chicken..

O_O

i humbly apologize to bata and jonyeap....what was i thinking  O_O

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i think the thread was a bit boring at that time....
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Don't take it too hard. I'm just sayin'.

Peace.

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