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post Mar 20 2009, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 20 2009, 01:48 AM)
sucrose i think is considered an empty calorie..
so i dun think its wise to add sucrose in? might be wrong tho.. dextrose and some other sugars are used in products like vitargo tho.. so they might have beneficial effects..
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Sucrose is 1 molecule of glucose/dextrose + 1 molecule of furctose.
They are all empty calories (which provide quick energy). =D

I just wanted to know have anybody tried sugar + whey as pre- & during workout shake,
and if it's the same as using glucose.
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post Mar 20 2009, 10:08 AM

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Its not the same,tried it before,sugar doesn't last long and leaves you feeling like an empty sac!
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM)
whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ?
me oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe...
i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ?
u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ?
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Honey, anything can gain weight as long as there's enough calories. Many people take excessive protein shakes and wonder "Why am I not gaining weigh?" Ever noticed that a scoop of protein is only 100-130 cals? If 110/3000 cals, you'd need 27 scoops of shakes a day to MEET your average ectomorph requirement.

You mix sugar+creatine for pre, you might experience a sugar crash about 40-45 minutes into your workout and that's when you have to drag yourself to do a single row. My friend has this issue. I don't. In fact, I don't have ANY of issues most people have when training.....weird.....

http://rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html <---read this entire article first. It's a goldmine of information.

Let's just say that, if you feel you're losing weight after stopping the supplement intake, (which I highly doubt provided you have sufficient food) then you can easily just eat a few more eggs in the morning, a few more chunks of beef and lamb or any meat source. GO to my friend's blog, coachjon.com/blog. I think he has an article about this put very simply. Something about bricks and workers and money = protein, carbs and fat.


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fructose I read somewhere is converted to glycogen that is easily be stored in liver compared to muscle. While lactose and glucose converted to glycogen and is easily stored in the muscles. So eating too much fructose (fruit) will result in fat storage cause liver can only store about 50-60g glycogen. This is what I recall. AND THIS MUST BE CONFIRM BY EXPERT. DON't SIMPLY FOLLOW MY WORD. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'm WRONG. Thank you

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM)
whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ?
me oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe...
i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ?
u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ?
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seriously!you need more knowledge in BB. please do your study, you seem like lacks of basic knowledge of nutrition and how the body works. please go bodybuilding.com and stuff yourself a bunch of article

without proper knowledge, you just waste of money for those supplement
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u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ?


well i dont buy that many jar also..coz its juz to add a few calories if i miss or i need some extra on a day..
coz if im not mistaken one spoon is around 100cal with 7 to 9 g of protein..

so yess..with a muscle juice ermm 700cal i think..
peanut butter
honey
milk
bananas
and a few spoon of oats..
there you go...an easy 1000cal shake haha..

well pleaseee eat real food also...shakes are just there to make you life much easier...


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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 20 2009, 12:34 PM)
fructose I read somewhere is converted to glycogen that is easily be stored in liver compared to muscle. While lactose and glucose converted to glycogen and is easily stored in the muscles. So eating too much fructose (fruit) will result in fat storage cause liver can only store about 50-60g glycogen. This is what I recall. AND THIS MUST BE CONFIRM BY EXPERT. DON't SIMPLY FOLLOW MY WORD. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'm WRONG. Thank you
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cobain take a look at this~~


http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/200...ruit_fructo.php

I think their words is very true, moderation is the key~
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Thank you XmT for digging the info rclxms.gif Actually 7 big banana a day will be stored to fat blush.gif But in the end, if your are in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight nod.gif

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yah, doing workout hard doesn't mean we can pigging out

moderation is still the key

i have two pieces of fruit everyday, and i can't take more than that, otherwise i'll be too full for other meal, lol
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 20 2009, 12:32 PM)
Honey, anything can gain weight as long as there's enough calories. Many people take excessive protein shakes and wonder "Why am I not gaining weigh?" Ever noticed that a scoop of protein is only 100-130 cals? If 110/3000 cals, you'd need 27 scoops of shakes a day to MEET your average ectomorph requirement.

You mix sugar+creatine for pre, you might experience a sugar crash about 40-45 minutes into your workout and that's when you have to drag yourself to do a single row. My friend has this issue. I don't. In fact, I don't have ANY of issues most people have when training.....weird.....

http://rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html <---read this entire article first. It's a goldmine of information.

Let's just say that, if you feel you're losing weight after stopping the supplement intake, (which I highly doubt provided you have sufficient food) then you can easily just eat a few more eggs in the morning, a few more chunks of beef and lamb or any meat source. GO to my friend's blog, coachjon.com/blog. I think he has an article about this put very simply. Something about bricks and workers and money = protein, carbs and fat.
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Yo pizza, do u still do front squats?
any tips on performing front squats better?
and how to get front squat weightage up?
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QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 21 2009, 02:17 AM)
Yo pizza, do u still do front squats?
any tips on performing front squats better?
and how to get front squat weightage up?
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I'm not pizzaboy but, here is a tip, do cleans.
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 20 2009, 03:34 PM)
yah, doing workout hard doesn't mean we can pigging out

moderation is still the key

i have two pieces of fruit everyday, and i can't take more than that, otherwise i'll be too full for other meal, lol
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I think you mean "Pig Out"? It's kinda weird that you only take two fruits a day....I think you're not training hard enough tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 21 2009, 01:17 AM)
Yo pizza, do u still do front squats?
any tips on performing front squats better?
and how to get front squat weightage up?
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Still do it three times a week. Two max strength sessions. One more power/speed/explosive session with emphasis at the top drive to assist my clean recovery.
Trying to front squat 180KG's by December. Rawr! Another 30KG'S more!

If you mean better....then I guess the few cues are;

1. Keep chest really high up
2. Use a "clean grip" and push your elbows as high as you possibly can
3. Contract your thighs at the top and keep it contracted all the way down.
4. At the lowest point, explode powerfully upwards.

PS: I'm not going to answer what a clean grip is, but I reckon you know what it is. Let's just call it weightlifters grip.
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my appetite is not that great anyhow

any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one biggrin.gif

sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM)
my appetite is not that great anyhow

any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one biggrin.gif

sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system
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same here my friend..
well my advice..drink those calories down..the easiest way to go..


okay are you into bodybuilding..or doin sports or anything first..
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM)
my appetite is not that great anyhow

any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one biggrin.gif

sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system
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Tips for boosting appetite.

1. Find Shanecross and go do a cross training session with him.
2. Find JIB-89 and try going to a ME deadlift session with him
3. Come to Mlk and train with my coach and I through the evening session.

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QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 21 2009, 03:48 PM)
same here my friend..
well my advice..drink those calories down..the easiest way to go..
okay are you into bodybuilding..or doin sports or anything first..
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yeah i eat a lot of white rice and eggs, cause egg is easier for my stomach

im a basketball player, typical point guard

explosiveness and power is what i am looking for, i do HIIT sprint one day, follow by a jumping HIIT, not much strength training, only barbell and bench press

HIIT session last 15-20 minutes, and TONS of running and jumping

I eat around 3000kcal per day, off day around 2500kcal + do steady cardio for 30 minutes

bodyfat around 12%






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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 08:06 PM)
yeah i eat a lot of white rice and eggs, cause egg is easier for my stomach

im a basketball player, typical point guard

explosiveness and power is what i am looking for, i do HIIT sprint one day, follow by a jumping HIIT, not much strength training, only barbell and bench press

HIIT session last 15-20 minutes, and TONS of running and jumping

I eat around 3000kcal per day, off day around 2500kcal + do steady cardio for 30 minutes

bodyfat around 12%
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Mate,

where are you located. I know what you need. HIIT wouldn't suffice your needs for explosiveness.

Ever done burpees? Ever done shuttle sprints? What about rope pullups? Stuffs like these generate explosiveness. PM me if you want to train together with us every Monday evening.
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hi all gym-pro out there,

i have been working out for almost 1 year..
every part of my body is progressively getting better into shape..
chest...ok..
bicep..in shape
tricep...visible..
abs.....still need improvement but i'm still satisfied with its progress..
back...getting wider..

but when it comes to deltoid (both anterior and posterior) muscle... so disappointed..
why..
i have tried all of the steps that can be found in youtube..
for instance..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKW8S9GCo2M
but my deltoid muscle still looks small..
and the line/shape/tome of my shoulder is still not visible...
some times i feel that my bicep+tricep is even larger than my deltoid..
some some more it looks weird on a person that has wide chest but small shoulder..
how come it's like that de??

i do follow the high-protein-low-carbo diet.
and some more increased the weight and times of the deltoid-routine..
still no use...

can anyone help me??
my stat is 177 cm and 62 kg, if its relavant ...

(p/s: sorry for the poor description as english is my thrid language)
(p/s 2: as i'm using the gym facility of my uni, i dont have any workout instructor to ask for advice....pathetic me..)

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it will be much better if u include ur pic for us to see and comment.

u can exclude ur face if u dont want us to know who u r

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