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post Mar 2 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Mar 2 2009, 11:34 AM)
Nop, my scorpling that i house individually molted to 3rd instar in juz 1month time
Faster than urs few day haha

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hahaha ..

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post Mar 2 2009, 02:51 PM

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Juz tot of sharing this information article about H.Spinifer with every1
http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?show...32&#entry264032

P/S: Lester, in that article it does state that communal scorpling grow faster than those tat are separated hmm

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ahahaha.. i've read that...


Added on March 2, 2009, 6:07 pmjust wanted to know. where can you buy a black light (uv light). bat powered. and price?? if the price is right, might buy it..

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U can get a LED blacklight with RM50, im sure where to get though lolz
Anw, any question2 add in the FAQ site that u guys would like2 know?
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u know where to get it ryo???
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I dunno lol...........
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Mar 2 2009, 03:51 PM)
Juz tot of sharing this information article about H.Spinifer with every1
http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?show...32&#entry264032

P/S: Lester, in that article it does state that communal scorpling grow faster than those tat are separated hmm
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hi bro ...

extract from your link :

Raising the kids

Something to take into consideration.
These animals are known for being very communal. To test this I have left 2 scorplings in the enclosure of the female. I have witnessed the female actually catching, killing and crushing prey for the scorplings. The mother with scorplings was fed once a week, giving them a big locust. The female catched the locust, took it back into the burrow and started crushing it. At that moment the scorplings came closer to take their part of the meal.

While other scorplings of the same brood were fed crickets 2 times per week and kept at similar temperature and humidity. The scorplings which were left with their mother have grown significantly faster and each instar was reached sooner then the scorplings separated from their mother. While the separated group reached instar 4, the communal ones reached instar 5 in the same period. This might indicate that keeping them communal actually helps in growing.




hmmm it seems like they try to out grow each other ... wondering if it is due to competion for food??? and to show who is the boss around ???

wat do u guys think??? wink.gif

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post Mar 3 2009, 12:42 AM

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I know a place in PG where u can get UV light for around RM100+ for a UV light tube, casing and can be charged.
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wow RM100 how big is the thing?? and whats PG???
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QUOTE(rideon @ Mar 3 2009, 01:13 AM)
wow RM100 how big is the thing?? and whats PG???
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pg is penang
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QUOTE(s98432512 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:13 PM)
hi bro ...

extract from your link :

Raising the kids

Something to take into consideration.
These animals are known for being very communal. To test this I have left 2 scorplings in the enclosure of the female. I have witnessed the female actually catching, killing and crushing prey for the scorplings. The mother with scorplings was fed once a week, giving them a big locust. The female catched the locust, took it back into the burrow and started crushing it. At that moment the scorplings came closer to take their part of the meal.

While other scorplings of the same brood were fed crickets 2 times per week and kept at similar temperature and humidity. The scorplings which were left with their mother have grown significantly faster and each instar was reached sooner then the scorplings separated from their mother. While the separated group reached instar 4, the communal ones reached instar 5 in the same period. This might indicate that keeping them communal actually helps in growing.

hmmm it seems like they try to out grow each other ... wondering if it is due to competion for food??? and to show who is the boss around ???

wat do u guys think??? wink.gif
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Hmm, nt too sure of it, maybe i can experiment with my next afs brood
But i bet it will be long sweat.gif
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post Mar 3 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(s98432512 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:13 PM)
hi bro ...

extract from your link :

Raising the kids

Something to take into consideration.
These animals are known for being very communal. To test this I have left 2 scorplings in the enclosure of the female. I have witnessed the female actually catching, killing and crushing prey for the scorplings. The mother with scorplings was fed once a week, giving them a big locust. The female catched the locust, took it back into the burrow and started crushing it. At that moment the scorplings came closer to take their part of the meal.

While other scorplings of the same brood were fed crickets 2 times per week and kept at similar temperature and humidity. The scorplings which were left with their mother have grown significantly faster and each instar was reached sooner then the scorplings separated from their mother. While the separated group reached instar 4, the communal ones reached instar 5 in the same period. This might indicate that keeping them communal actually helps in growing.

hmmm it seems like they try to out grow each other ... wondering if it is due to competion for food??? and to show who is the boss around ???

wat do u guys think??? wink.gif
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For my own experience, It is true. For my emperor, when the female born all the babies out, mostly takes 1 whole day, after that i will the female cricket. As the first time, i notice that the female kill the cricket, bite a few bite and it will throw the cricket to the back of her body to let the sling eat. As you know that the sling is still soft( still white ), the skin is not yet harden up, it cannot catch the cricket own self. And untill the sling getting they second molth, mostly they will be down from the mother body. At this time, if the female mother have been feed enough, i don't think there is any chance that the mother will eat their child. On the other side, it will still kill the cricket and left over on the floor to let the sling to feed up.

For the second batch of my breeding. I separate out the sling because i failed to feed the mother that time and it start to kill the sling. While i separate out, i have to pre-kill the cricket first to feed the sling. And FYI, i raise my Africa Emperor Scorpion female and male together from they will young. I think if the food provide is enough, space to hide is enough, keeping togahter is not a problem. But i also have a case which like 1 of the forumer here, fighting over for space or female or food i also don't know, end up kill each other. doh.gif

What we can do is just understand the behavior and try to avoid all the bad. thumbup.gif







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QUOTE(aimeh @ Mar 3 2009, 10:36 AM)
For my own experience, It is true. For my emperor, when the female born all the babies out, mostly takes 1 whole day, after that i will the female cricket. As the first time, i notice that the female kill the cricket, bite a few bite and it will throw the cricket to the back of her body to let the sling eat. As you know that the sling is still soft( still white ), the skin is not yet harden up, it cannot catch the cricket own self. And untill the sling getting they second molth, mostly they will be down from the mother body. At this time, if the female mother have been feed enough, i don't think there is any chance that the mother will eat their child. On the other side, it will still kill the cricket and left over on the floor to let the sling to feed up.

For the second batch of my breeding. I separate out the sling because i failed to feed the mother that time and it start to kill the sling. While i separate out, i have to pre-kill the cricket first to feed the sling. And FYI, i raise my Africa Emperor Scorpion female and male together from they will young. I think if the food provide is enough, space to hide is enough, keeping togahter is not a problem. But i also have a case which like 1 of the forumer here, fighting over for space or female or food i also don't know, end up kill each other.  doh.gif

What we can do is just understand the behavior and try to avoid all the bad.  thumbup.gif
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Bold part: It happen when those sling still 1st instar? B4 molting?
If so i doubt tat as they dun need2 eat at the stage, their chelicerae have not fully develop yet
Maybe she did threw it on the back but dun think they will eat it
Correct me if im wrong
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post Mar 3 2009, 11:18 AM

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Erm .. is after molting. There are plenty of white skin on the body and floor. But i not sure how many times it molt and only it will start eating. sorry
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Swt why apologize pulak doh.gif
Dun la make me sound like so bad doh.gif
If after molt its possible ba, i'd seen tat before on my own scorp haha
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post Mar 3 2009, 11:28 AM

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lol .. i really forget dy ..

and your display pic scare me ma ..

Later you come and sting me ..lol
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-.-'' If only i can sting people, i wouldnt scare of being rob ady
Sometimes i wonder hw do we extract venom out of a scorp
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you mean like extract in lab? Like the snake they use a bottle that type? Or you mean if we kena stung, how to get it out ?

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Extract in lab -.-''
Later only research on it... Headache nw
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post Mar 3 2009, 01:12 PM

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what i know that black widow spider they use voltage to extract the venom, but i am not sure if its the same method that they use to extract scorpion venom.

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