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post May 4 2009, 02:02 AM

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Wtf Rafiqos
Is the roach x2 the malaysia dubia?

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Wait till i get a pic from Kashim.....
I ll counter attack
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post May 5 2009, 08:33 AM

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My "corpion" is with me in my room
Damm, im out of crix
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QUOTE(aros @ May 5 2009, 09:39 PM)
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Scorp-porn,

starring Agrandar,

so tell me what I want to know,

is this guy a h. longimanus?  rclxub.gif
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Looks like spinifer lol!
But we can only sure if u have a clear short of its granuation

QUOTE(aros @ May 5 2009, 11:17 PM)
rafiqos, there is something about you that is good at breaking hopes.

huh reality sux,

i refuse that it is neither spinifer or longimanus,

It's a new species, LongimAROS, hahahah. lol.

btw can someone post a good comparison of the granulation between spinifer and longimanus?

i searched a few web but ended in vain, they look similar to me. sigh.
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Longimanus (Herbst 1800)


DIAGNOSIS- Adults 90–140 mm long. Base color of
adults uniformly black, only manus and telson may be
reddish brown. Pectinal teeth number 12–18 in both
sexes. Male with chela, femur and patella of pedipalp
narrower and longer than in female. Male fingers of
pedipalp very long. Fixed fingers longer or at least as
long as manus of pedpalp. Chela not lobiform in male,
slightly lobiform in female, its length to width ratio 3.3–
4.4 in male, ca. 2.4. in female. Much of manus smooth,
sparsely tuberculate. Patella of pedipalp with pronounced
internal tubercle. Carapace usually with disc smooth and
margins granulate, but sometimes entire surface
granulate. Telson hirsute, elongate, vesicle as long as or
longer than aculeus.

How to Identify- H. longimanus have elongated pedipalps, hence the name. But the problem is that H. spinifer also have elongated pedipalps as well. If you know you have a male, and it does not have extremely long chela, it is a H. spinifer not H. longimanus. But, if you have females, or just want to be sure. You must look at the granulation patterns for both spinifer, and the one below for longimanus.
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spinifer (Ehrenberg, 1828)

DIAGNOSIS- Adults 100–135 mm long. Base color of
adults uniformly black, only manus and telson may be
reddish brown or black. In juveniles base color reddish brown,
telson may be yellow. Pectinal teeth number 15–19 in
both sexes. Sexual dimorphism in proportions of
pedipalps not noticeable. Chela slightly lobiform, its
adult length to width ratio 2.4–2.6 in both sexes. Much of
manus smooth, with smooth carinae forming irregular
reticulation. Patella of pedipalp with pronounced internal
tubercle. Carapace with disc smooth and margins
granulate. Telson hirsute, elongate, vesicle longer than
aculeus.


NOTE: Diagnosis was actually slightly wrong, so I edited it a little bit. Will be different compared the original revision by a word or two.

How to Identify- H. spinifer is an oddball Heterometrus. It can have a black telson, and a red telson. Which makes it easier to confuse with both H. petersii and H. longimanus. As you read above, H. petersii has rounder chela than H. spinifer. Now to differ H. longimanus and H. spinifer is the hardest to do, in my opinion. H. spinifer have slightly elongated chela, and H. longimanus have elongated chela, with the males having VERY elongated chela. The best way is to check the granulation patterns for both H. spinifer and H. longimanus, they are very close but there is a difference.
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My bad LOL!
Copy wrong! Editted!
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post May 6 2009, 01:16 AM

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Sleeping la lol....
Btw hw is ur spinifer nw?
Are them all adult and still sharing the same hide?
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QUOTE(rideon @ May 6 2009, 09:39 AM)
I got i think around 1k of pinhead and now all gone.. Luckly i have a 3rd batch but man these ants wont just go away... Gone repeller and things but still here..
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Use water tray+vaseline ring biggrin.gif
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post May 6 2009, 05:42 PM

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Print this and put in front every of ur scorp tank, this method work well and i assure u no ants will ever appear

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QUOTE(s98432512 @ May 6 2009, 05:46 PM)
whahahahahahahahahaha .. that is a gd one ....  lol  with that i think the scorpion also gone lol

btw i think my rj is molting today .. got a feeling .. strong feeling .... lol


Added on May 6, 2009, 5:46 pmbtw .. why did u get that pic ???

damned it man
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lol .whahahahahahahaha
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Internet... Type 4chan or meme and u ll get bunchs
So fast molting??? Mine i think juz started2 fast, but i dun think is pre molt
Maybe juz gt bored with mealworm after eating some crix
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QUOTE(s98432512 @ May 6 2009, 09:09 PM)
lol.. yap i was rite...

the male one molted today .... cos i saw it white this morni:P

should be an s molt smile.gif lol...
labies and gentlemen .. i m pround to bring you the 6th instar of my rj ...

lol--- so happy today ... my male rj molted smile.gif

a little more .. lol
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lol
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Congratz man, mine shld molt soon too
If urs really is a male, it shld be ady mature by now
6instar male RJ are ady capable to produce sperm sack
But female will need to wait till it hit to 7instar b4 mating

QUOTE(rideon @ May 7 2009, 12:37 AM)
dunno y they all want to escape... I didnt do anything weird or anything. Feed them like usual and mist and give water. isit like the week for climbing or being weird week or sumthing???
Kinda cute looking at the stigmurus's pincers out one of the ventilation holes..
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Its normal if they try2 escape even though they live in luxury environment, they are juz exploring
So fat i haven seen any of my scorp tat din try2 find their way out b4
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Wat do u mean?
Did he get stuck or something?
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I tot u ady read the SOTM about junceus in the venom list????

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post May 7 2009, 12:28 PM

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Male...
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Female...
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Notice the lil notch on the male's chela, the female dun have it
This make the female can completely close its pincher while the male cant due to the notch on its chela

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So did u notice a notch on ur junceus chela, lester?
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Halo bro sesat kah?
Post in centipede thread la...
Btw its hard2 tell the sex of centipede
Continue the discussion there
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QUOTE(aros @ May 7 2009, 04:09 PM)
dang now only i know there are a lot more liocheles out there!

remember on the hanging lair in kemensah,

i'm sure its not an australasiae,

probably Liocheles extensus or Liocheles karschii ???

i remembered the long chela,

that's y i shouted,

but since after korek2 we found australasiae,

i did not argue lol,

this is damn drooling,

when are we going for an outing again?

this one rafiqos don tegur macam2 eyh, so as ryo! tongue.gif
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Wat is L. Extensus and L. Karschii tongue.gif
In malaysia only have Liocheles australasiae australasiae and Liocheles nigripes
though it might still be other sp which have nt been discovered yet but the one that we got from the same log are Australasiae cause im having it
If wan2 herp again, anytime bro but not 26th cause i ll be busy moving back to hometown tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ May 7 2009, 05:57 PM)
your "hometown" is like 10-15 mins drive away... rolleyes.gif
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Then come and find me more often whistling.gif
U graduated also?

QUOTE(rafiqos @ May 7 2009, 08:12 PM)
I'm in lotus position. Won't break your heart again berus.
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Oh shit, it happened doh.gif
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QUOTE(s98432512 @ May 7 2009, 10:34 PM)
lol  hi guys ...

male or female ????? sweat.gif
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I see no notch but then the pic are nt clear and a freshly molted scorp's shape is slightly distorted until their exo harden up...

QUOTE(rideon @ May 8 2009, 12:05 AM)
how can u sex them at that size??


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Nice punies!!!!!!
My place din even sell adult crix!!!
Only sub adult mix with 1-4 adult in RM1 doh.gif
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QUOTE(rideon @ May 8 2009, 01:55 AM)
if majority of my pinheads grown alil or survives the ants infestation, i can give u some ryo if u want some.. I dont think i can take care all these feeders. dont have alot of small mouth collection that needs pinheads..
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Give me a call if u ever drop by my area thumbup.gif


Added on May 8, 2009, 11:36 amSome info to share
This is for aros

List of scorpion species in malaysia

BU Isometrus maculatus

BU Isometrus zideki

BU Lychas flavimanus

BU Lychas hosei

BU Lychas mucronatus

BU Lychas shelfordi

BU Mesobuthus extremus

CHE Chaerilus agilis

CHE Chaerilus cavernicola

CHE Chaerilus chapmani

CHE Chaerilus laevimanus

CHE Chaerilus ojangureni

CHE Chaerilus rectimanus

CHE Chaerilus robinsoni

CHE Chaerilus sejnai

CHE Chaerilus tichyi

EU Dasyscorpiops grandjeani

EU Euscorpiops montanus

HE Hormiops davidovi

HE Liocheles australasiae australasiae

HE Liocheles nigripes

SCN Heterometrus longimanus borneensis

SCN Heterometrus petersii ?

SCN Heterometrus spinifer spinifer



BO = Bothriuridae, BU= Buthidae, CA = Caraboctonidae, CHC = Chactidae, CHE = Chaerilidae,
EU = Euscorpiidae, HE = Hemiscorpiidae, IU = Iuridae, MI = Microcharmidae,
PS = Pseudochactidae, SCN = Scorpionidae, SU = Superstitioniidae, VA = Vaejovidae

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Try centipede or frog if u get bored feeding crix tongue.gif
But smelly and messy la

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