quote from RCrex:


i must say ... i'm extremely happy to saw someone watching anime with logistic thinking.... what i wan to say is that I'm totally agreed with you Mr RCrex ....and really really nice to meet you specially in this forum, lowyat.net....

above all bout what had been said by mr RC, i have a few bug bout the story i wan to add in this latest gundam00 (the ending of 00)......SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY NOT RIGHT BOUT THE BATTLE between setsuna and the final boss who control the final boss gundam .....

around 12:32 minute in the movie, where both, setsuna and the final boss, after struggle in a close battle combat, the final boss manage to chop down one of the setsuna gundam's arm. Then the boss took one of the original gundam engine from setsuna's gundam....

my question is : why the Boss gundam didn't kill setsuna when he took the engine from setsuna? when he took the engine, setsuna stil unconscious / pengsan, at that time, the boss should easily kill setsuna at that moment....

BUT HE DIDN'T !!! the boss gundam is so kind heart !!! no kill!! takde bunuh ?!!? how come ??

instead, he go take engine, then went off... what the ?!?!

if he kill setsuna at that time, no need face so many problem what....he can just simply kill setsuna during setsuna pengsan, then go change engine to another gundam oso can what.....

if someone say the boss at that time no weapon or what so cannot kill setsuna...plz la...the boss stil got a complete left arm which stil can take out the and hold the original gundam engine...if it's hand stil can do all those stuff , he should have no problem killing setsuna while setsuna pengsan...

gundam00, actually, is an animation with a great story background/universe , but the battle was moving from bad to worst...
one good example are those scene where two particular enemy, pointing a gun to each other, then start talking... it's ok if they want to talk during battle, but stand there, point gun to their enemy,then talk, talk, and talk?! this is an stupid action in battle, and it's not cool at all.... what should they really do was SHOOT 1st, then only if they wan to talk, talk...or talk and shoot at the same time....... this kind of battle, pointing gun and talk cock , with no battle during the talk is totally ridicules....

This post has been edited by sammm33: Mar 31 2009, 01:14 AM

to Mr wufei:
i noe... dun tell me somthing i noe and please dun humiliate gundam universe by SAYING " this is gundam"...

we are here ,now, talking bout gundam, so please explain what you mean in above quote ....

This post has been edited by sammm33: Mar 31 2009, 12:15 AM

to Exiled_Gundam,


if what you said is true, then this mean ribbonz is really a shame to call himself "a new kind of human being"... this fellow, ribbonz is a very cleaver person, with a very cool headed and sharp thinking person which able to plan so many thing nicely which lastly change the whole plan who build veda....and such kind of cleaver person made this kind of mistake ? leaving the unconscious setsuna, take the engine an turn his back? impossible...

and if you watch carefully in the anime during the battle between the time 11 til 12 minute, the field where ribbonz battle against setsuna is totally clear without any obstacle, which positively provide a large, clear view of radius...

if speaking of both flew far from each other after the blast, finding the engine 1st rather than the oo raiser oso did not make any sense...

normally in such clear field, they should spot the bigger object 1st rather than the small oo engine... spotting the engine 1st rather than the oo raizer in such a situation is just unacceptable...

regards...

This post has been edited by sammm33: Mar 31 2009, 02:50 AM

Mr Geminist,
err....no ...all the "gun pointing scene" i mention about are referring to battle scene, sry forget to mention it in my reply just now....
agreed...
errmmm.... i dun really think so, cuz at my personal opinion, this kind of plot is dragging the story in 00...
as the main part of the gundam 00 which they trying to tell is what kind of plan was planed by the person who build veda,what the plan is doing and what the plan is causing to the human kind...
inserting such plot bout "understanding" did flavor the story in gundam 00, yet adding it in the later story its like adding MSG (monosodiumglutamate,< did i spell it correctly? or ajinamoto) to a bowl of soup which already taste good, very unnecessary....
my reply to another who give out the same opinion as you are... :



since you meantion bout the explosion...if anyone notice, the explosion caused after both chop each other is an EXTREMELY HIGH EXPLOSION, "which able to bounced both of them far"....

In such a condition, even if we put aside if there a fact that saying "ok, the cockpit build to be very tough which able to with stand large impact to protect it's pilot", then how come the damage around cut from both gundam was that minor ? this doesn't make sense as if such a big explosion was caused, the gundam itself should already turn in to small bits....

regards and peace

This post has been edited by sammm33: Mar 31 2009, 02:33 AM

hi wolfx...nice to heard some questioning from other, cuz questioning mean your thinking bout what your viewing, both the anime and replys in this forum...above all, my respect to you...
lolz .....what's wrong for complaining something that we felt not right? as we all know, this a sub forum bout gundam under an anime forum, and i believe all understand what is a forum is/for...
just that i notice such a bug which i couldn't understand in this latest episod of gundam 00....you see, i put aside partrick and marie's blowing up part for later talk as i did notice that part is actually as bugged as/too smimiler to the part where ribbonz and setsuna's gundam blow up(i tot more people notice or pay attention to the final battle,seem's there is someone out there notice other than that )... unacceptable as it is unexplainable...in short ,try explain how they manage to survive in those explosive ... pretty unexplainable, izzit ?
nope i din ask for such one-sided story plot...yes, i understand what you mean by fiction for a reason......but if this particular fiction comes with unacceptable / unexplainable reason, does it still be named "fiction for a reason" ?
well, i didn't felt any wrong in that part.... wang liu min(mei?) vs a person with gun > wang die (so true what )
or you mean wang liu mei > used by ribbonz > no more use for ribbonz > killed by ribbonz (nothing wrong what? )

above,my humble opinion to you too

This post has been edited by sammm33: Mar 31 2009, 03:00 AM

Dear Mr Quazacolt:
saying something as above quoted is really rude .... his just trying to bring out a discussion of comparison between 00 and destiny (you tot everyone like to flame?), and seriously i don't think there's anything wrong with said by mr wolfx ...

that's mean actually your agreed that the gundam 00 quality does go lower than an anime which came out 10 year ago huh ?

so you mean his so obsessed until he left his unconscious enemy, taking the original engine, turn his back, go all the way to his base then suddenly bump on the older gundam, change engine, then went back to look for setsuna ,while from the start he ignore all this fast that :....
-actually his the one who stay conscious/1st one regain his consciousness after the explosion, ...
-his gundam was in much better condition than setsuna's gundam, ...
.....DIDN'T kill setsuna but yet going after the engine is able to be explained by telling me that : "oh...his obssesed" ? ...huh...kids nowadays........
in a forum, we discuss.... agreed or disagreed, we state out our reason and we explain it....
saying something like " oh , is like that behh..." or "this is this la..." doesn't really explain what you trying to say....
and please, i know what is an anime, that's why we discuss it here, in this forum....try not to tell me what is an anime or sound out such naive reply as its clearly show that your not respecting others opinion....

no....we wont remove "anime" ...where you get the idea that only the Japanese are the only one who made and creating animation?
unless you state your reply something like this, i believe it will made your sentence sound more "proper" : "....we pretty much remove "quality-ed anime" ....."
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dear Mr Exiled_Gundam :
err...well... i dun think what he said here are referring to me...i just quote him for that part cuz what he mention there doesn't comes with proper explain on what he had said...
mind if i ask where got enemy stil lurking at that time ?....final battle there left only two of them behhh...other gundam all down already ...

can't be and cannot be....

can't be cuz like i said b4, if you refer back to the battle field where setsuna and ribbonz fighting, it's clean, without any obstacle for a very large area.... after the explosion, ribbonz should have no problem finding setsuna as smong setsuna's remaining gundam and the chopped off solar engine, the size for the setsuna's remaining gundam is the largest in size...in such a condition, normally the 1st thing ribbonz should find will be the remining of setsuna's gundam, with unconscious setsuna inside....and with the left arm at ribbonz gundam and the knowledge of ribbonz, he should have no problem killing setsuna during that period....

cannot be if you said ribbonz try to resupply himself as ribbonz didn't know he will find the old gundam on his way back to his base,the way he get the old gundam is totally by accident...unless the story mention that actually he have a backup gundam in his base and ribbonz is heading back to his base and getting himself a replacement gundam, taking the engine and turning his back from setsuna is a very weird action taken by a smart person like ribbonz... this doesn't make sense as he leave out weaken enemy behind , go out, find a gundam and put the engine into it? what if at that time he didn't find the abandoned gundam over there ? most probably kill by setsuna who change to exia huh? so why leave setsuna after the explosion? just directly go kill setsuna, then slowly he can take his time go change engine, evolve himself with the new engine, and do what the want....simple wasn't it....yet he choose the most unacceptable method while he had his chance to clear his foe....

above, my opinion to your reply's.....

Dear Mr all-correct :
hi...i'm Sam, nice to meet you Mr Quazacolt....
so is this your internet forum ?(simply asking just in case i didn't know).... why the all bossy language from you, Mr Qua? (again just simply asking around, cuz you sound like protecting something...)
wow ......boy you did check everything, don't you? but you know something, i bet you forget to check the dictionary for the meaning of the word "hypocrisy"...and who's the one start out to be hypo here anyway?...
tell me which part i offended you, and you will have my apologize...
did i, at my last reply which quoted bout you, argue the issue bout gundam animation, made by who ? it is clear you didn't get your self fully understand bout what I'm talking bout ON that part...(tips for you just incase you forget : "anime" and "quality-ed anime")
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your a sad person if you keep on with such kind of attitude...

you got a point there Mr gundam...., i totally forget bout the katharon force out there...
then this mean left the part where ribbonz get the engine after the explosion unexplained, the animation totally skipped that part on how he manage to find and retrieve back the chopped off solar engine from setsuna's oo ....

to Mr.diN@AltGeinst:

totally agreed with what you had said ....
we can't just simply talk gundam with anyone you came around in this real world, people might think your crazy...
that's why we have forum, more or less it let us talk bout it, and train our self on how to deal with real people who show their altitude bout themselves in this virtual discussion room...
we are using the internet, which is virtual to the world....but the world we're on now, using the internet was a real world...

to Mr who-admit-himself-all-correct("?"):
haha...you prove yourself, trough your reply, being a sad person...
since you have the habit to answer others curiosity with more question , then so be it ...let's do it your way...
here goes : Mr Q, in my previous reply, are you sure,i mean, positively sure that you FULLY understand what i mean in those reply ?

regards.

err.... you don't have to answer so long since your so sure i couldn't "understand" much bout your post...
about my question you can just simply answer "yes" or "no", deal ?
so, bout the "how much you understand my reply" question...

......and you DID pick one

well, Mr riku, there's no fight , no whatever is happening (why, a lot reply between two person doesn't really mean there must be a fight, izzit ?)...what happening was just some simple discussion bout gundam and some etc ..... as Mr Q's cognition pattern really interest me....

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Added on April 1, 2009, 1:55 amerm... seriously i don't really understand where you get the idea of "hand with flames"....
but .....did someone just say"let it cool" ? hmmm ... i wonder why....


This post has been edited by sammm33: Apr 1 2009, 01:55 AM