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Anime Gundam V8, ガンダム (Gandamu)

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DSLevantine
post Mar 31 2009, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 30 2009, 10:05 PM)
Despite all disappointments, i think everyone can agree 00 was way better than Seed and Seed Destiny, agreed?
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nope, I don't think so. It is not better than Seed or it is just same rank as Destiny. Simply make a statement without reason is not convicing. Why the ending is just same rank as SEED-D? The main character gundam is better than enemy gundam. SEED-D is overpowered? same goes to GN thing in 00. So, it is just as the same as SEED D. Nothing more nothing less except the points mentioned by Sam. Last but not least, there is bug in SEED-D as well, after Kira almost destroy the enemy base, he went into the base and chat with the boss instead of destroying the whole base for good. This is crap.

So, SEED-D and 00 is TIE.
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post Mar 31 2009, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 31 2009, 02:04 AM)
So you're basing your "nope i don't think so" only on the fact that the 00 is overpowered? No other comments on why you came to this conclusion?

Personally I felt 00 had a clear direction on where it wanted to go with the story, just that maybe the direction didn't go so well. They knew the destination, but they chose wrong way to get there and end up wasting time with alot of things that weren't important. In SEED-D, they don't even know the destination, or using what to get there so end up with "wtf" ending.  doh.gif 

That's my humble opinion.
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That is only one of the example. you give me some point and I can discuss with you. Okay, you say 00 had clear direction. SEED D is something different. They are looking for answer, when the story start, it is all peace but then the EAF hijack some gundams. Then Lacus assassination. They are just looking for answer, they want to know what is happening and they want to stop the war of their own country and ZAFT. Everything is not clear until they know thw ZAFT plan to rule the world. Then they try to stop ZAFT. If this is wtf ending, same goes to 00, what are they still want to fight for in the end? the direction is not clear.
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post Mar 31 2009, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 31 2009, 02:04 AM)
Dude....why do you even watch anime if you complain these things....  doh.gif  Might as well complain why the whole world speaking Japanese? (is it Japanese is the universal language even Middle Eastern ppl can speak Japanese?) Or maybe complain tak logik that Patrick and Marie didn't die despite getting blow up in the suits? Its called fiction for a reason. Imagine how dry it is if Setsuna just silently shoot Ribbonz with one shot and Ribbonz will quietly die instead of having a "speech" before he blow up, boss fight ended. I guess that's what you wanted? laugh.gif
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Those are weakness of that anime. If you just wanna pretend that you did not see the weakness and still wanna say that anime is good. Did you mean those bugs are good as well? The Japanese thing, it is totally not necessary because it just wanna let us know about the story, the stroy line will not be affected even if they say mandarin, cantonese. The creator made this bug in the first place, why don't the creator just made a way to keep both of them alive, but avoid the explosion? I am pretty sure there are still other way to keep both of them without the explosion. If they die, then the story after that will be changed completely. Why they want to create a situation where both of them should die but they are still alive? it looks cool? I don;t think so, it just make the anime bad. It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, you ask stranger on a street to give you his money and they fo what you said. You wanna call this fiction for a reason? it is ridiculous for me.

this is just my humble opinion as well

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post Mar 31 2009, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 31 2009, 03:31 AM)
and you speak of, character death. why, didnt someone (actually a few someones lol) from SEED/SEED-D had such, description too?  whistling.gif
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Did I said SEED or SEED D is very good or something like that? or did I say SEED D doesn't have any bug like this one? I you read my post carefully you will not ask question like this. SEED and SEED D is ridiculous as well, ya the part where explosion happen and Kira and Athrun always live.


Jeez, I really don't know what you are thinking. Once I made comment about OO, you, yeah you, the flame bait guy start to treat me like some sort of anti 00. If you are really a fan of gundam, just accept that the explosion thing is a bug, ya, a bug which happened in almost all gundam series. Even if the bug happened in almost all series, it is still a bug. As I stated above, the ending is not any better than SEED D with a few reasons which I think is enough for a TIE. If you want to discuss the weakness of SEED, I feel free to discuss it with you as well since there are bugs in SEED and SEED D. Is it so hard to accept weaknesses of an anime?


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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 31 2009, 08:12 AM)
The funny thing is i was not intentionally baiting any flames.....and really thought everyone would think 00 > SeeD was a universal feeling. Guess i was wrong.  doh.gif
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Universal feeling doesn't exist, especially for anime like gundam. Make a poll and you will see the result
00>SEED
00=SEED
00<SEED
I am sure every person have different views.


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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 31 2009, 08:12 AM)
The funny thing is i was not intentionally baiting any flames.....and really thought everyone would think 00 > SeeD was a universal feeling. Guess i was wrong.  doh.gif
Exactly this ^. This is Gundam.

If people criticise the show for ppl surviving explosions in their mecha or how the boss always reveal to their enemy their evil plans before the final showdown and fight, or how gundam pilots can always have long speech while fighting.....then dun watch anime lar. All the previous Gundams had the same thing. Might as well also complain why mecha can move so fast in space or why when they shoot lasers etc why got sound in space when it should be quiet? Its all just to add "drama" and entertainment value into the show, not a bug as you ppl call it. And btw i dunno what is all this "fiction for a reason" crap. The only reason fiction is fiction is it is to ENTERTAIN. If it fails to entertain, then it has failed as a fiction.


Added on March 31, 2009, 8:18 am

Sorry my wrong. Wth i all the while thought it was FMP guy. =.=
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I am impressed. You like something like this
""It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, you ask stranger on a street to give you his money and they fo what you said. ""

Who do you think you are asking other not to watch anime? Or you think that everyone can only talk something good about anime but not the weakness. Then why are you making a statement like this 00>SD. Or you think that you are the only one who has the right to judge which anime is good and which anime is bad?

why mecha can move so fast in space or why when they shoot lasers etc why got sound in space when it should be quiet?
move so fast in space thing, I dun really understand gundam technology. If you know all about the technology, why dun you juz create a gundam as well? laser got sound is for entertaining purpose, it doesn't affect the storyline at all whether the laser got sound or not.

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DSLevantine
post Mar 31 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Mar 31 2009, 08:05 PM)
dude, don't like something no need to comment so much kua >.>....just an Anime only sleep.gif..yes, even i think the ending of 00>SD...hmm, new user...created a new account for the sake of bashing or was ban hmm.gif
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Jeez, this is the only account I have. Comment is wrong? then there is no need for any manga rating, movie rating, game rating or so. since all are just fiction. What is the problem with new user, like some other users in this forum who discuss the matter with me, they have points and speak their reasons clearly. Unlike some old user, unable to speak out any point and they are only able to make fun of some new user. I can't believe it, you registered for 4 long years and thats you have? thats all you wanna say? That's all what you gain from registering as a user for 4 long years?

Well, you can ignore me, the facts wont change. Anyone can ignore others if he/she fails to speak out some useful points, and then try to slip away with another topic.

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post Apr 1 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 31 2009, 11:34 PM)
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o hai captain obvious. what brings you here? yeah.

and yet again, if you havent realized, i dont think anyone is commenting much on those so called "explosion bugs" thats been happening in gundam minus you and that other decepticon guy.
and umm http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bug
last i check, i was watching an anime called gundam, not a program or a mechanical object
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Wow, now you want to focus on the word bug instead of the explosion. I don't care what it is called, a bug or whatever, the explosion happened and both survive, why? If there is really no chance for them to survive, why the creator made that scene?
I can comment on any part of the anime, I don't see any problem for making comments. You say, comment on the explosion is wrong? why? I am not the one who start to comment on the explosion though.
So, you wanna say that Gundam 00 is the best gundam series and it doesn't have any flaw? Every animation has its own weakness, you can accept when people say something good about 00 but you cant accept someone who stated the weakness of 00. So, if you are a gundam fan, why don't you just accept the weakness of the 00 , not just 00, weakness of any other gundam series? Once you start to compare gundam series, there will be a lot of different views.

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DSLevantine
post Apr 1 2009, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 1 2009, 12:33 AM)
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- 2 words: "explosion bug"
- if you knew why the creators made such scenes, why are you b****ing about em in the first place?

and, how about you quote me saying gundam 00 have 0 flaw? i mean, im having my share of complaints of the ending like a number of forumers around here, and if im having complaints in the first place, how would that make gundam 00 having 0 flaw?
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I don't know why the creators made such scenes, so I made a comment on it. What is the point of making negative comment on the "good" part of the anime? The explosion part is a flaw, I just stated it out because thare is not enough reason to convince me that explosion part is good. When I made comment on SEED, the part Kira ahtrun always alive after explosion, which is totally ridiculous, everyone seems to accept it since no one quoted it and discuss with me. Then, when I make comment about explosion in 00, you start to quote it and disagree. If you feel that the explosion part is good and both of them should not die in the explosion, then you should not complain about SEED explosion as well, treat all equally.
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post Apr 1 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 1 2009, 01:15 AM)
if you've bothered to dig through the old gundam thread, SEED/kira jesus (people do call him that for a reason) debates are already being debated to the ground and its already a dead horse. beating it over and over again wont all of a sudden make everyone equal.

and again, quote me saying/feeling (didnt realize you can quote a feeling, maybe setsuna with trans-am burst could do it) that the explosion part is good and both of them should not die or anything along that line.

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Then, there is no problem for me to comment on those parts. You quoted my post for what?

quote me where I quoted your feeling.
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post Apr 1 2009, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 1 2009, 01:31 AM)
then at the same time i wouldnt have any problems commenting your comments, or even quoting your posts right?

and since when i mentioned anywhere of you quoting my feelings? you might want to take a step back and read my reply just a little bit more clearer


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id pick hallelujah kthx.
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Okay, then, stop talking about the quote thing which is not related to 00. I do not have problem that you comment my comment or quote my post. I made a comment about the explosion. Then, what is your comment? Agree that the explosion is not a good scene or disagree and say that the explosion is a good scene. Thats all.
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post Apr 1 2009, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 1 2009, 01:38 AM)
I'm not even gonna bother bringing myself down to your levels of understanding, sam and levantine, cuz i have no idea what you guys are arguing about. This is not a debate about opinions. Its a debate about how you are complaining about stuff that is normal in anime. Its like you are complaining why the Macintosh apple logo is blue, when a real apple is red. Because its a friggin Macintosh logo and shouldn't matter that it is blue?
Who I think I am? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?
Can't resist. laugh.gif
You answered your own buggy questions. Entertainment. Does it answer your question to all your so-called bugs? Why people survive explosion, why people give speech while fighting in gundam? Why Ribbonz do this do that?

Its for entertainment purpose. Not bugs. I rest my case.
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This is your level of understanding,
""It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, main character ask strangers on a street to give main character his money and they do what the main character said. "" You think this storyline and setting is good. This is your level of understanding the word "entertainment" in anime, I guess.

It doesn't matter who you are. You juz don't have the right to stop me from watching anime.

Again, this is the entertaining storyline that you want, ENTERTAINMENT!
""It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, main character ask strangers on a street to give main character his money and they do what the main character said. ""

Everything is good. All the weakness can be treated as entertainment. Cool.

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post Apr 1 2009, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 1 2009, 01:32 AM)
ya the final 2 episode feels rushed especially episode 24...
its a good ending but not as epic as i would hope it to be since season 2 has been great so far...
still i'm happy daybreak's bell was played in the end since i find it suitable for the series...

ps Quazacolt and the rest: please take the flame war to the pm if it get too heated...
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I just wanna make comment to part I don't like in the anime. I gotta reply if there is people questioning my comment. Thats all, no more war if everyone start to chill after this post.

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