All first hand copies should have it.

When you register for Cerberus Network, its tied to you. Unless you sell the game with your account, they won't get access to it.

Same with Shale from DA: O

This post has been edited by H@H@: Jul 2 2010, 03:18 PM

Shale is DLC... DLC that comes for free for first hand owners of the game and not for 2nd hand owners. Unless of course the first owner didn't bother activating it.

This is essentially the same for Cerberus Network.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Jul 2 2010, 03:22 PM

Hmmm, that outfit kinda looks a bit like the one she wears in the beginning of the game (Well minus the bulky space suit bits)

You can play DLC even after you finish the game (Assuming you didn't die of course and actually that goes for all the "side" missions). They made it very hands off compared to the Dragon Age DLC.

Anyway, I like the inclusion of clips (Canonically, it makes no sense to switch from a system where you could shoot forever to something that won't) as it forces you to move more tactically and not to sit back and just take potshots at enemies (Which used to be the case so often in the first game)

IINM, you can do exactly ONE mission after the IFF Mission and still save the most crew members (That's basically for Legion's loyalty mission, and is so you can do a perfect run). Maybe you can do more, but I never tried, so I dunno.

Hmmm, that's odd, considering you get Legion during the IFF mission and not anytime before.

Using a character unlock hack perhaps?

Oh yeah, that is what's supposed to happen. Man, my memory is really shot now these days.

Personally, I thought it was a rather cheap trick to "retcon" the fact that the Geth aren't actually evil.

It was nice of them to make the Geth more 3 dimensional (Rather than the mindless "ohmygod reapers pwnz us!" things before), but its still a retcon.

Y'know what would be REALLY bad? In ME3, there's an NPC Collector that can join your party and then he tells you "Oh but they are the EVIL ones! We're actually really nice!"... Then I'll drop Bioware from my list of developers I respect.

In the first game they're pretty much made it look that 100% of the Geth population were followers of Saren/Reapers (Hence, evil). In ME2, it was retconned that that was only about 50% of the population.

Well, the idea behind a retcon is that it makes the previous lore "work" with the current one. The retcon may or may not be realistic, but is still a retcon nonetheless.

The retcon in ME2 may not need to be Crisis on Infinite Earth kind of retcon (Where literally the universe is rewritten to accommodate tie all storylines together), but its still one whether it appears logical. Plus, they could've at least made it look like they actually wrote it in properly by fleshing it out more extensively instead of just having Legion explain that bit in a couple of conversations.

I'm not mad that they did it, just that it looked so transparent and kinda made all that "hate" towards the Geth made in the first game seem ridiculously cheap.

That's why its a good retcon... It doesn't create any logical fallacies or loopholes. It works.

The thing about Western storytelling is that foreshadowing is an important element whenever it comes to any form of surprise or twist. It can be so apparent as to reveal the surprise or so subtle that it could be missed completely... But it HAS to be there or the audience will just deem it as a "Deus Ex Machina" moment (Ok, that's not the term, but its close to the meaning in spirit) where it just seems like the writers wrote themselves into a hole and needed a quick fix to dig themselves out. Foreshadowing elements beforehand basically ensure the audience that the writers intended for this to happen.

Its something that only Western storytellers use and Asians rarely do (Which is why some ppl can accept all the really stupendous twists from the Metal Gear games while others can't). Bioware obviously follow the former since they did similar things with Revan in Knights of the Old Republic.

There was practically no foreshadowing in the first ME that the Geth weren't wholly evil (Even dropping a simple "Geth worshipper" who thought they were misunderstood would've worked). Hence the reason I call it a cheap retcon.

Storywise, its a really nice plot twist (As it further explores the themes of "no true evil other than differences of opinion").
But the way they did it, just came off a bit amateurish... The kind of crap that an inexperienced DM would do when suddenly one of your NPC buddies turned on you.

Also, anyone who had to *murder* Wrex didn't play the game right (Which is, you have to be a really opinionated loony. No middle ground in ethical decision-making).

I know that in the first ME, the interface was redesigned with a keyboard and mouse in mind (They removed all the gamepad-ey bits) and thus the gamepad wasn't supported... I'm not exactly sure, but I think they did the same for ME2.

Sorry dude.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Aug 18 2010, 02:01 AM

Sigh...

As I discovered in one of the old ME 2 threads awhile back, it seems that the majority of ppl who miss the Mako or liked the Mako missions, didn't actually get (Or at least try) the achievement where you discovered EVERYTHING in the game... and the converse is true.

The Mako is indeed kinda fun to drive, but it doesn't handle itself well when going up sheer cliffs... This wouldn't be a problem if there weren't many sheer cliffs in the game (Which you only really encounter if you only go for the secret locations), so dozens and dozens of locations later, the Mako is more revolting than joyous to drive in (I hate it so much I actually prefer the mining games in ME2 to the Mako).

If they want to bring back the Mako, remove the exploration bits or at least let the Mako handle itself better over very rocky, mountain-like terrain.

Well, the achievement gave you a bonus for future playthroughs, so its not like I was purely doing it to satisfy some OCD fantasy.

Is that Tali's... face?


WHAT HERESY IS THIS?!?!?!?!

Long hair? In an Unreal Engine game!

Based on his sig, that is pretty ironic