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post Feb 22 2009, 12:11 AM

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Since the mushrooming of IPTS med schools is getting quite serious, why isn't there a single news in The Star about it? Someone should write to the newspaper to alert the public.
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post Feb 22 2009, 12:18 AM

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many of the 'public'.....mostly parents who want their children to live their dream of being doctors, actually support this easy access into medical schools.......they see this as a counter weight to the restrictions imposed on non malays in the entry into ipta med schools........and against mono-ethnic institutions like mara.......

like most problems in this country, the main reason for this huge mess is politics.....

utar has been fighting for their own medical school for years.....but refused permission......and mahsa came from nowhere and get a license.......

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post Feb 22 2009, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 12:18 AM)
many of the 'public'.....mostly parents who want their children to live their dream of being doctors, actually support this easy access into medical schools.......they see this as a counter weight to the restrictions imposed on non malays in the entry into ipta med schools........and against mono-ethnic institutions like mara.......
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shocking.gif I guess it's because the public consisting mostly parents do not realize the negative consequences of the mushrooming of IPTS med sch. For example, if the news of buyable-degree from Russia is exposed on the frontpage of The Star, I don't think the public will simply ignore it.

limeuu: You should try writing to The Star.

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post Feb 22 2009, 12:35 AM

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As the result, future doctors will be forced to obtain well known specialist degrees which will distinguish themselves from other incompetent doctors.


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shocking.gif  I guess it's because the public consisting mostly parents do not realize the negative consequences of the mushrooming of IPTS med sch. For example, if the news of buyable-degree from Russia is exposed on the frontpage of The Star, I don't think the public will simply ignore it.

limeuu: You should try writing to The Star.
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Try doing that and you will definitely be killed in no time. There's too much profit involved. sweat.gif

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post Feb 22 2009, 12:53 AM

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Hence, there is no way to stop the mushrooming?

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As the result, future doctors will be forced to obtain well known specialist degrees which will distinguish themselves from other incompetent doctors.


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Try doing that and you will definitely be killed in no time. There's too much profit involved. sweat.gif
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Not so serious lah.. sweat.gif


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post Feb 22 2009, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Visualize @ Feb 22 2009, 12:53 AM)
Hence, there is no way to stop the mushrooming?
Not so serious lah..  sweat.gif
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Hopefully when Pakatan comes to power, they will do something about it. YB Lim Kit Siang is well aware of such issues in Malaysia, and he even blogged about it.

Trust me, when big money is involved, it's that serious. sweat.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:03 AM

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just got off the phone with an indian doctor......as in indian national contract doctor, serving in a rural hospital in msia........

the referral is a patient with fresh quite profuse bleeding per rectum.......and the only cause the poor india trained doctor could think of is haemorrhoids........can't offer any other differential diagnosis......

maybe hypermax will want to offer some suggestions.......

see what i mean by problems with india trained graduates.......?
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 01:03 AM)
just got off the phone with an indian doctor......as in indian national contract doctor, serving in a rural hospital in msia........

the referral is a patient with fresh quite profuse bleeding per rectum.......and the only cause the poor india trained doctor could think of is haemorrhoids........can't offer any other differential diagnosis......

maybe hypermax will want to offer some suggestions.......

see what i mean by problems with india trained graduates.......?
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May i know where did he graduate from? There are many medical schools in India, and most medical grads from the top 10 schools won't make such mistake.
Also, pls dun generalize based on one doctor's performance.
BTW, i am not an Indian grad. You should know that.

BTW, why did you talk to him on the phone so late at night? He's your MO or houseman?

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Personally I think that medics that graduated from Malaysia is not any less inferior compare to UK grad. What set them apart is perhaps the emphasis of communication and willingness to do a self-directed study
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(MBChB @ Feb 22 2009, 01:11 AM)
Personally I think that medics that graduated from Malaysia is not any less inferior compare to UK grad. What set them apart is perhaps the emphasis of communication and willingness to do a self-directed study
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Just curious, are you a UK grad?
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:12 AM

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any graduate from top med schools in india will not be working in a remote hospital in msia..........

so you want me to ask all doctors where they graduate from?......how about their pre-u results as well.......?

i don't care, there are just TOO many poorly trained doctors coming out from these countries, including india........
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 01:12 AM)
any graduate from top med schools in india will not be working in a remote hospital in msia..........

so you want me to ask all doctors where they graduate from?......how about their pre-u results as well.......?

i don't care, there are just TOO many poorly trained doctors coming out from these countries, including india........
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Well, if you want to put it that way, then it's fine with me. smile.gif

BTW, is he your MO or something? I thought you are a district health director? Health director needs to run rural clinic?? rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:19 AM

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not going to offer some differential diagnosis?

should be at fingertips, for a final year student.......
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 01:19 AM)
not going to offer some differential diagnosis?

should be at fingertips, for a final year student.......
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Nah, lazy to think. Have been studying the whole damn day need some rest.

You are really good at avoiding questions, aren't you?
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maybe not......maybe furiously looking up surgical textbooks.......or maybe not........

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 01:25 AM)
maybe not......maybe furiously looking up surgical textbooks.......or maybe not........
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Haha, yeah, i am. laugh.gif

You as an experienced doctor, why dun you give me differential of upper GI bleed?

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post Feb 22 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Feb 21 2009, 06:12 PM)
Just curious, are you a UK grad?
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Yes biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(MBChB @ Feb 22 2009, 01:28 AM)
Yes  biggrin.gif
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May i know where you graduated? Currently working?
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Feb 22 2009, 01:26 AM)
Haha, yeah, i am. laugh.gif

You as an experienced doctor, why dun you give me differential of upper GI bleed?
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that answer along renders you close to failing already immediately.......

one more stupid slip, and you will have failed a surgical viva........

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2009, 01:31 AM)
that answer along renders you close to failing already immediately.......

one more stupid slip, and you will have failed a surgical viva........
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I dun get what you mean. doh.gif

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