It's just personal preference. E or S main thing we're talking about is the accessories... that's it. Compare the both, all the main aspects that make it an NHC is the same. hehehe...

One other consideration is the waiting time... some need a car now, some can't wait, some just don't care, some can wait and some can't live w/out the additional accessories, hehehe...

E-Spec waiting period is between 3-4 months (i may be wrong, so don't hantam me la)

S-Spec waiting period is a little over a month (might have changed recently, I don't know)

In any case, RM5k doesn't represent the whole nature of which model to choose from. RM60 additional is a small increase to pay if you're able to afford an NHC. Then again, RM60 per month to some might be well worth on something else. Again, personal preference.

Some of the items mentioned that make the E-Spec more desirable:

1. Paddle Shift (Then again, it's a 1.5 car and what kind of power increase can you expect from normal D and S gear mode? Has anyone Dyno'ed their NHC? Personal feeling is subjective, facts and figures speak for themselves) Then again, some might argue that it's more fun with the paddle shift. See, 2 different point of views. If you don't use it, it'll just be a nice cosmetic "racing-feel touch-up" to the car

2. Fog Lamp (Fog in Malaysia? Hehehe... just kidding. It's useful on roads with little or no lights. And going up Genting, Frasers, Cameron, etc. Good Safety reason too)

3. Signal Side Mirrors and automatic folding (This is nice. Helps you get in tight places and ensures they're protected. Not to mention an additional light to tell the person next to you or in front of you that you're turning)

4. 16" Rims (Doesn't matter. 15" is the same and tyre's are much cheaper @ 15" size. In any case, both rims are ugly looking. Then again, most will probably think about changing to nicer sport rims sooner or later)

5. Reclining back seats (Well, if you carry allot of people around, then fine. But most of the time you won't enjoy this benefit anyways. YOU'RE THE DRIVER) It doesn't recline that far anyways...

There are others but the above is eye catching. All i'm trying to point out to potential NHC owners is, IT'S UP TO YOU! WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT'S PRACTICAL? There are Pro's and Con's above and beyond the RM5k. Think about it.

End of the day, it's still an NHC and it's still the same engine, body, chassis, braking system, ABS, EBD, and other stuff.

Bro's, i am about to install an anti-hijack/immobilizer for my NHC. Heard from SA that this won't void warranty of the whole car, but only the wiring of the alarm. Is this true? Don't want to void the warranty just because I installed an anti-hijack/immobilizer. Thanks!

COOL! Thanks for confirming! I'm going tomorrow. Where do you intend on getting yours fixed? Good price? I've always gone to CV Audio as they installed my Clifford Arrow 5 and Cheetah Immo in my previous car. Am happy with their workmanship, even though they're a bit more expensive than other dealers. Lemme know, maybe we can go 2gether and get more discount. Hehehe...

Bro,

Did mine @ CV Audio. The Boss, Peter is a cool guy! Installation took about 5 hours or so. almost half a day, but with this type of system, it's best to let them take their time and do it right. Workmanship excellent! Now I can sleep a little bit better. At least I have a deterrent, that's all. Nothing's theft proof, but you got to do what you gotta do to make yourself feel better. hehehe....

Anyways, CV Audio is known for their workmanship and that includes Audio Systems, Security Systems as well. They carry all Clifford products (authorized distributor), Captor and Cobra Connex. There was NEW Camry the same time I installed by Clifford and it was fitted with Cobra Connex. DAMN COOL! 100% recovery record to boast too. If you've cash, get Cobra Connex...

Have you done-up your car?

Yeah... at least peace of mind abit... Got the BlackJax 5... more or less the same with 4, not sure what additional features...

Long way to go on my list:

1. Tinted: WinGard... safety+heat resistant (DONE)
2. Additional Security: Clifford BlackJax 5 (DONE)
3. K&N Drop-In Air Filter (next on the list)
4. PPS (maybe this weekend)
5. Sport Rims (17" perhaps, will need to scout around)
6. Upgrade Sound System (in a few months time, hehehee.... )
7. Mugen or Modulo Bodykit will be last on the list as Mugen hasn't or will not release. Will just wait it out...

Anyways, upgrades anything under the hood is limited. Not much you can do. Oh well, just have to wait and see...

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Added on April 29, 2009, 8:16 pmBro, can't show the BlackJax 5... it's installed and out of plain view...

This post has been edited by gfunk11: Apr 29 2009, 08:16 PM

Would love to join-in the TT Session. Just that I've got conf calls tomorrow up until 11pm. I'll try to make it if you guys are still around.

Bro,

No doubt what her SA Recommended are very good add-ons, but I must say, pricing is very2 expensive. Does authorized accesories shop means that your warranty for modifying some wiring like the brake lock and alarm sensor will not void the warranty? If like that, then you might as well install all items with the Service Center and they'll take care of any warranty claims. Premium price, but it's up to you. Then again, warranty is still subjective to HM.

Anyhow, please join us in Honda City Connection Club (HC3) @ http://www.hc3msia.com Join as an official member and you'll have access to authorized shops which offer the club special discounts! All I can say is, it's an eye opener than what you've listed below!

Cheers!

Bro,

Mind sharing some pics of your rims? Really want to change mine. so 215/45/17 fit huh? Must feel owh damn good... really miss the wider rims, previously using 205/45/17 on my SGTI...

Yep... I'm getting about 450-480km before the fuel warning sign comes-up. 70% city, 30% highway driving. I don't rev much, just keep it mildly between 2-3k RPM, occasional 4k RPM, but that's about it. With the NHC, don't really need to go up that high. It's sufficient between 2-4k RPM. Try to keep it there. You should be able to get around 450km or so per RM60-65 full tank. Agree with sysh... extra weight and 5 speed auto. There's a balance you know. Power/Weight, Weight/Fuel Ratio, etc. being heavier, it'll need extra oomph to chug it!

Anyways, am quite happy with the NHC fuel consumption. Really good, especially for RM60 bucks or so, it trumps most other vehicle's out there. On another note, it really depends on how heavy your right foot is... hehehe....

UR only has Rear ARB. Check-Out the website: http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Catalog.asp?...20(2009)&page=1

But even with rear ARB it's pretty damn shweeeet!!! Less roll & tucks-in very nicely...

Bro,

Other than CBJ5, there is CBJ4, but really difficult to find one nowadays. May I ask why you're looking for a lower version? Price? Functionality? What price are you getting now?

sysh,

Yeah, we were too occupied and excited installing the bars the other day... hahaha... totally forgot. Next OTT then. Yep, having the CBJ has somewhat eased my nervousness.

cla7632,

Clifford line is rather expensive and top of the line alarm system. Most entry level would start around RM1k and above. RM500-800 is non-existent at this moment, unless you go for the Matrix Range. The Newer G5 range are all RM1k above.

Matrix range, you can get the entry level alarm at about RM700+ or so. Quite a good alarm, but it only has basic functions. Best thing is that you can add modules on top of it later on. Really depends on what you want. Why don't you just stroll down to an authorized dealer/installer and ask about the range of products that they have.

What i've mentioned are only basic alarms with options to add-on an array of items, including an anti-hijack module like the CBJ. Though the CBJ can act as standalone, coupling with Clifford's other ranges is best.

Another alarm system that is abit cheaper than Clifford is the Viper range. Same company, i.e. Directed, but some of their products are around RM600-1000 range. Anti-Hijack, am not too sure. Anyways, good luck!

Yeah, just wait. If you've set your mind to E-Spec & can wait, just wait.

I couldn't wait, so took the S-Spec... either way, it's still the New Honda City and E or S spec, you'll definitely love the car! Once you get your car, then you'll say it's worth the wait...