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 LYN Tennis Lovers V2, Tennis Racquets & Courts in Klg Valley

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post Feb 18 2009, 12:25 AM, updated 17y ago

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Hello, kaypoh and nothing better to do...

The continuation of the LYN Tennis Lovers thread... Enjoy!
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post Feb 18 2009, 02:40 AM

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first here!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(artemis348 @ Feb 17 2009, 01:10 PM)
No, dude, Sampras likes head-heavy. Since the ProStaff 6.0 is very headlight, he stuck tons of lead tape on the head. The Wilson Hammer was originally developed for him, but he refused to use anything other than his St. Vincents. You can see that the new kProStaff for Sampras is more head-heavy than the k6.1 Tour AND even the kBlade Tour.
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...that's why i mentioned it was a generalisation (that serve-and-volleyers) prefer something more manoeuvrable i.e. head-light... the top pros wouldn't have any problem swinging a sledgehammer around at the net so they are a moot point... and i -seriously- doubt the hammer was developed for sampras... no way wilson would even present that idea to him... totally wrong for him man... if i could crack those flimsy things, sampras would've blown them to smithereens...


QUOTE(Kaerna @ Feb 17 2009, 01:31 PM)
Anyone here knows any shop in Kuala Lumpur that sells the Dunlop Racket which John McEnroe uses? I have read some good review of it being a reasonable yet good racket and being a fan of John myself, thought I should get my hands on it. Thx a lot smile.gif
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heh i used them... an artist's stick of choice if ever there was one... well, those racquets were GOLD during my time, okay? dunlops racquets (those days) had good touch, were comfortable though you had to swing 'em real good to get decent power... i used a max200g for a while (steffi is still my all-time fave girl smile.gif)...as to where you can find them, i have no idea... pawn shop probably?
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post Feb 18 2009, 11:03 AM

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the Maxply McEnroe is selling in those big sport stores in shopping malls...i've seen them selling in Stadium, KLCC. last time there was like 60% sale for that racquet....after discount rm300+ only...wanted to buy but felt that it's more suitable for pros lol...

but i can say it's quite popular...1st time i saw got 3-4 racquets...the next time i went left 1 only!
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post Feb 18 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(grinner @ Feb 18 2009, 08:56 AM)
...that's why i mentioned it was a generalisation (that serve-and-volleyers) prefer something more manoeuvrable i.e. head-light... the top pros wouldn't have any problem swinging a sledgehammer around at the net so they are a moot point...
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dude whole sentence is wrong. head light is more suited for baseliners then u can get racquet head speed easily. while head heavy for stabilization on serves and volleys sweat.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(grinner @ Feb 18 2009, 08:56 AM)
...that's why i mentioned it was a generalisation (that serve-and-volleyers) prefer something more manoeuvrable i.e. head-light... the top pros wouldn't have any problem swinging a sledgehammer around at the net so they are a moot point... and i -seriously- doubt the hammer was developed for sampras... no way wilson would even present that idea to him... totally wrong for him man... if i could crack those flimsy things, sampras would've blown them to smithereens...
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You mentioned Sampras with headlight, so that's inaccurate. Also, volley-ers don't swing at the net.

As for Wilson having developed the Hammer for Sampras, that was the claim at the time. How true it is, only Wilson and Sampras knows. Also, if you don't already know, the pros have customized racquets from the manufacturers, and there are usually nothing like the retail versions. So the analysis that if you could crack those flimsy things and that Sampras would have destroyed them is clearly moot.

And as Battousai says, you got them backwards. The headlight racquets are more suitable for the baseliner big swings, and the heavier heads are more suitable for volleys.

This post has been edited by artemis348: Feb 18 2009, 01:06 PM
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post Feb 18 2009, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Feb 18 2009, 12:14 PM)
dude whole sentence is wrong.  head light is more suited for baseliners then u can get racquet head speed easily. while head heavy for stabilization on serves and volleys sweat.gif
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sweat.gif ...with all due respect ~Battousai~ mate, since from reading these posts i know you are a very established player so you are armed with the relevant knowledge and experience... however, i was not too shabby from my day also (selvam should me know me, from the pacific days wink.gif) and from -my- yonder knowledge, i was taught (and subsequently teach) that head-heavy was for baseliners, since i) they had ample time to generate the swing and ii) the extra mass helps generate more power for the shot... as for server-volleyers, they need not generate power, just direction... but do need mobility at the net, thus the need for head-light racquets... both logically and dang-it, also from experience i know that to be true... in fact, my previous publications of tennis magazine still state that as a fact, so there... heh...


QUOTE(artemis348 @ Feb 18 2009, 01:04 PM)
You mentioned Sampras with headlight, so that's inaccurate. Also, volley-ers don't swing at the net.
I stated serve-volleyers as a general group, not sampras (you should really note the wrong generalisation i put in there)... sampras did have those lead tapes, all along the sides of his racquet, but like i said, at his level he could swing a sledgehammer at the net and still get the ball on the uh... hammer... i am not comparing pros with the rest of the weekend warriors mate...

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As for Wilson having developed the Hammer for Sampras, that was the claim at the time. How true it is, only Wilson and Sampras knows. Also, if you don't already know, the pros have customized racquets from the manufacturers, and there are usually nothing like the retail versions. So the analysis that if you could crack those flimsy things and that Sampras would have destroyed them is clearly moot.
...seriously, I am from that time, by that i mean the range was released during my time, and in no time did any publication from wilson or any magazines say the hammer was intended for sampras... sampras always played with the pro staff, courier too (there was a red, white and blue one for him, which if one from was my time, one would remember)... oh and there was an article in tennis magazine also that sampras did play with a retail version of the pro staff (as several of the pros did... not all, but several), the only change being that he had a customised grip size... hence the need for his custom balancing with lead tape... i'll give you a quote from tennis magazine which supports this...

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How do the racquets you customize for the pros different from what the regular player buys off the rack?

People see things in magazines that the pros use completely different frames. It’s not really the case. There could be slight, slight differences. But mostly it’s in the customizing. So the inside of the frame is made the same or in a very similar way. The company may add a little weight because the player needs it to be heavier, but otherwise it’s very similar to what you buy.
...some players like (i'll use one example from my time) agassi, who had trouble switching from prince racquets to donnay, so they took a whole bunch of prince precision racquets, sprayed them flat black and he competed with them... but everyone knew they were his old racquets, all the way to the stabilizer bar at the middle of the uh... whatchamacallit... racquet neck... loads more examples where that came from... i think manufacturers really can't be bothered to make a totally different racquet, even for their big-name big-bucks stars... so you see, the flimsy hammer racquets would've been lighter, or heavier, or different balance, but internally the construction would've been the same thus my blown-to-smithereens point...

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And as Battousai says, you got them backwards. The headlight racquets are more suitable for the baseliner big swings, and the heavier heads are more suitable for volleys.
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again, i refer to my existing knowledge and experience... maybe you live in a different generation where the rules of physics have changed, but there we go...

...okay look guys, i really do not need a flame war here... maybe my understanding of the game has somehow warped, or new standards exists regarding racquets, or whatever... i just wanted to share what i knew, so if you really need to counter my statements, please research first and link me any supporting statements, okay? really, i would like to update my knowledge... seriously i have not played since the millenium so i -may- not have the current facts...

anyways, peace y'all!
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Should be ok...sure no fight one.we all here to share for all people benefit.
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okay just got back from getting some fresh air outside... sorry... wait, no my humblest apologies to all if i sounded a bit rude and condescending... didn't mean it that way... i'm actually a really sweet guy *yeech* and peace-like (errr... except when i'm on the road... then i do get a bit b1tchy blush.gif)... anyways, again my apologies to all... especially to my mates ~Battousai~ and artemis348... i doff my hat to thee...
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QUOTE(grinner @ Feb 18 2009, 02:47 PM)
again, i refer to my existing knowledge and experience... maybe you live in a different generation where the rules of physics have changed, but there we go...
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Normally, I'd be insulted by that. But since it was such a good dig, i'm gonna just rclxms.gif

However, I will point out that it should be the laws of physics.


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QUOTE(grinner @ Feb 18 2009, 05:06 PM)
okay just got back from getting some fresh air outside... sorry... wait, no my humblest apologies to all if i sounded a bit rude and condescending... didn't mean it that way... i'm actually a really sweet guy *yeech* and peace-like (errr... except when i'm on the road... then i do get a bit b1tchy blush.gif)... anyways, again my apologies to all... especially to my mates ~Battousai~ and artemis348... i doff my hat to thee...
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No worries, man. Not a problem at all. A little debate never killed anyone (so far that I know...).


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i've done my research and yeah what grinner says is often repeated over the internet. headlight does get you more maneuverability and is suitable for volleys but i still believe that you need a head heavy racquet for good volleys and serves just simply for the bite that is needed.

headheavy yeah it allows more power and since u get extra time for being a baseliner the extra weight won't matter but will get you more power. but i still lean on to that head light racquets give u the extra acceleration needed to hit nice shots. heavy racquets allow more power but with the use of wrist and bodyweight into shots, im leaning more on head light racquets..

this is of course my personal opinion and i've seen it on TW forum it remains to be debated because within headlight or headheavy the weight of racquets comes into play as well tongue.gif

and again exchange of opinions doesn't hurt. Everyone has one. You just don't need to be known to so and so just to say a point. wink.gif the last time we had one who claimed to beat selvam himself.. so there's no need to say how good or bad a player is to comment.. share of opinions are always welcome tongue.gif
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QUOTE(artemis348 @ Feb 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
Normally, I'd be insulted by that. But since it was such a good dig, i'm gonna just  rclxms.gif

However, I will point out that it should be the laws of physics.


Added on February 18, 2009, 5:15 pm

No worries, man. Not a problem at all. A little debate never killed anyone (so far that I know...).
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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Feb 18 2009, 07:14 PM)
i've done my research and yeah what grinner says is often repeated over the internet. headlight does get you more maneuverability and is suitable for volleys but i still believe that you need a head heavy racquet for good volleys and serves just simply for the bite that is needed.

headheavy yeah it allows more power and since u get extra time for being a baseliner the extra weight won't matter but will get you more power. but i still lean on to that head light racquets give u the extra acceleration needed to hit nice shots. heavy racquets allow more power but with the use of wrist and bodyweight into shots, im leaning more on head light racquets..

this is of course my personal opinion and i've seen it on TW forum it remains to be debated because within headlight or headheavy the weight of racquets comes into play as well tongue.gif

and again exchange of opinions doesn't hurt. Everyone has one. You just don't need to be known to so and so just to say a point. wink.gif  the last time we had one who claimed to beat selvam himself.. so there's no need to say how good or bad a player is to comment.. share of opinions are always welcome tongue.gif
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kkang told me u go vietnam?for what?holiday ar?

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QUOTE(feeq @ Feb 18 2009, 09:07 PM)
ya lor...no kill people


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kkang told me u go vietnam?for what?holiday ar?
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yup holiday and scout for tennis talents and maybe employees here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Feb 18 2009, 10:54 PM)
yup holiday and scout for tennis talents and maybe employees here tongue.gif
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haha...good luck
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Anyone here participating in "UTP Open Tennis Tournament" on 13th March 2009?
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QUOTE(hades86 @ Feb 18 2009, 11:40 PM)
Anyone here participating in "UTP Open Tennis Tournament" on 13th March 2009?
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any more detail? where is the place?
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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Feb 18 2009, 09:54 PM)
yup holiday and scout for tennis talents and maybe employees here tongue.gif
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Hehe.. I went to Vietnam Dec' 08... played tennis everyday with the locals there. The place I stayed at had tennis courts... Tay Ho hotel, located near the West Lake.. It's one of the few hotels with Tennis Courts... it feels great to play in cool weather... Plus.. the hotel rates were relatively cheap.
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QUOTE(hellojeffo @ Feb 19 2009, 12:57 AM)
Hehe.. I went to Vietnam Dec' 08... played tennis everyday with the locals there. The place I stayed at had tennis courts... Tay Ho hotel, located near the West Lake.. It's one of the few hotels with Tennis Courts... it feels great to play in cool weather... Plus.. the hotel rates were relatively cheap.
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