This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 09:21 AM

Wont be RM80k, should be around RM70k

It is quite decent anyway, all specs, will have 2 airbags as standard


This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM

Don't judge a product before it is even released to showroom yet...

Anyway, at that price, i settle for Honda City, never a Toyota

Google, i found that photo frm Google

Depends lah, protection has stunted Proton for a long time, only with recent competitions, Proton has been force work harder...

Example, in early 2000's, the difference of price between national car and foreign is so big since the government increased tax during 1998 financial crisis....thus Proton and Perodua can maintain with market share...

In 2003, Toyota and Honda delivered a shocker, Vios and City which is practically just over RM 10 to 15 k of Waja......

That time, Honda City I-DSI was about RM 78,888

In 2006 or 2007, Proton changed its CEO, only since then, there has been a revamp of how Proton works...

Conclusion, is competition makes a company forced to work harder...

In terms of spec, the Proton Exora should a bit better than the Livina

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 09:42 AM

Hah? From many press reports even on The Edge, they mentioned less than RM 80K

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wed...icle/index_html

http://paultan.org/archives/2009/02/17/pro...will-launch-in/

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 09:45 AM

Sooner or later, protectionism has to be wiped out

Malaysia has to pay some form of compensation to Thailand because Malaysia delayed AFTA for auto sector from 2003 to 2005

It is not healthy now, i can see some people take 9 year package just to buy cars, it is ridiculous

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 09:47 AM

Grand Livina 1.6 AT = RM 88,600

Proton and Perodua no longer ask for protectionism

Now it is more like the cutting tax is simply too risky for the government, as the revenue of automotive taxation is simply too large for government to cut.....

Em......COE for Malaysia can work eh...

It is just the question of "when", not "if"

RM 450 million to develop MPV.................this is entirely new platform
Therefore, i can foresee the next model will be cheaper in development cost because there is a new platform to start with....
In global standard, it is considered cheap...
My last visit to Proton factory to see their facilities, provides me an insight of they workings...
I have seen the mockup interior of the Exora too...
I believe, if they are consistent enough in production record and quality, they can slower climb out of gutter...
As witnessed in 2008 sales data, Saga managed to eat Myvi shares...
At the end of the day, remove protectionism and improve public transport, simple as that...
Having automotive company doesn't mean we have to make our public transport like shyt

At the same time, an MPV should work wonders in Indonesia where over 60% of their market is of MPV

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:09 AM

Apa efisien DBKL ni....traffic light tarak lampu sudah berhari hari

My proposal

Inside KL Golden Triangle, KLCC and Bukit Bintang can be said most frequented shopping area....

I have walked from Berjaya Times Square to KLCC..........but for many people, it is tiring and hot....

Looking from map, i suggest DBKL to build an overhead bridge for pedestrian, featuring air-conditioning, walkalators (travellators).......it will encourage people to walk a bit further (exercise)...this is a bridge to connect all KL Golden Triange shopping areas...



It is entirely feasible in my opinion, afterall the distance maybe less than 1.5 km......all with airconditioning, well, to prevent loitering, it is best to connect this bridge to as many sites (buildings) as possible to increase its usage...

It is similar to this concept

Good to see you like it

I think this helps more people to walk around Kuala Lumpur city area....

I think this is different than normal overhead pedestrian bridge, because overhead pedestrian bridges normally about 100 to 300 m at most...

Whereas this bridge (air conditioned) is about 1.5 km

For now, people going to KLCC from Bukit Bintang have to take monorail, then walk from Bukit Nanas to Dang Wangi, then from Dang Wangi to KLCC, isn't it tiring?

With this bridge, it is faster without waiting and there is travellator as well...

Maintenance wise, i suggest divide this bridge to several section that is maintained but adjacent building/tower management...

There is one underground walkaway in existence in KL, which Suria KLCC to KL Convention Centre

Underground, can be considered, but the interesting question is cost...

DBKL is full of fail lah, Plaza Rakyat now like the biggest mosquito spot in KL

Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...

Look at the underground walkway from KLCC to Suria KLCC......

As i said, it is proposed to divide it to several sections and let adjacent building management responsible for that...

Bukit Bintang monorail is too much of a hassle you know...

In another matter, it will help lalas to conquer KLCC

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:26 AM

I would say the benefit outweights the risk, haha

Johannesburg can cut the pickpocket and crime, why not us?

I doubt we are worse than Johannesburg eh?

10 years ago, the CBD of Johannesburg faced gloom, a hotbed of crime and lack of pedestrian activities, when Amos Masondo cleared up Johannesburg with BRT and fill people inside CBD which was previously a hotbed of crime....

At the end of the day, there are several examples, it is up to DBKL to tidur or bangun



This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:36 AM

Korekshyun, it is more like 30 years ago....1970's era

More like 1960's when Park Chung Hee took control of Hankuk...

In 1950's, they are much worse than us, after Korean war, they got famine and lots of slums.....Malaya was a heaven compared to the battered Hankuk....

I think, Malaysia will look good "statistically", but real life, er..........you and me know lah....as a matter of fact, World Bank already not granting IBRD loan to Malaysia, claiming we have "graduated"...along with Rossiya and Brasil

Of course, statistically, we are beautiful, but real life, HAHAHA

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:45 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International...and_Development

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Added on February 19, 2009, 10:50 amAiyah, malas to discuss this, this is SC anyway, nanti perempuan tak masuk...

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:50 AM