hi! Good day everyone, special thank to west wing for reply my pm, other like lucas, engineer lee...thank a lot I have been reading this forum since 4 months ago, i do find a lot of advise from here(thanks again). This is my first post and i would like to share my first bh experience to you all ( pls to get advise from all of the sifus ). I just start operate my new bh 6 weeks ago, lucky to see 4~7 bird chose to stay in my bh . This is a 3 storey standalone bh 30X50 on a farmland, all the layout design are getting help from friends and this forum. (even though save a lot of money, but just can't comform is everything ok) . So, could you all sifu pls help me to check and give me some more advise.

1) my bh layout design is 30 wide X 50 long with 10 ft height, air flow (open roof) entrance 10X10ft.

2) temp- i am lucky to say my bh temp is under control 26~30'c ( my construction is using double red brick with poly~ (don't how to spell the white thing) in the middle, and plaste in and outside wall). my roof is cerment + Zling roof on the top with air flow through between cerment and Zling. must add the top roof to control under 30'c, experience more than 32'c with only cerment on the top.

3)humidity- using a chiken farm humifer each floor, operate from 11am~11:30am then 12pm~12:30 then 1pm~1:30pm, so far is 80~90. but just turn off yesterday, because one of my sifu say it will scare the bird( the motor sound). Should I turn it off since i am a new bh without any nest? if yes, when should i turn it back on. Should i change to waterpump (waterpipe with noises every 5 foot each floor) they claim it will less noise and operate only 5 minuts per day?

4)Solar system- since my bh is in farmland without any power and water, i am using solar system drsign from local company. this system is coming with audio and all the timer like auto door(close at 8pm, open at 6:30am), light, humifier, cctv. So far the system is working pretty good, because my audio is never down(touch wood). This system can be stand 7 days without sunlight.

5)smell- i am not sure about the smell since there are not so much discussion in this forum. i am only using bird drop (about 1 rice bag) for 4500qf. don't know is it enough smell? i use plastic container to mix the bird drop with water, but not sure how much the ratio is? Hope all the sifu can teach me how to solve the smell problem since i am a brand new bh. (Thank again to west wing sharing about it)

6) nesting wood plant- i using 6" merati plant. I hear some consultant say using 3 or 4" wood plant for getting higher quality nest and save cost, but finally decide to use 6" because of one story. there is a very good bh which can get 10kg nest per month for few year without any impovement, but after getting one sifu advise to change 6" to 8", then he bh got incearse to 20kg after some time.

7)speaker- buy tweeter from KL jalan pasar for rm5 each one. about 100 tweeter have install in my bh. do i got enough tweeter, since there are about 30 tweeter each floor for 1500qf? since my is air flow(open roof) entrance hole design, where do i need to aim my tweeter to? can i place my tweeter to 4 differ direction?

8)myself- since i am newbie and crazy about the bird, i am almost watch the cctv everyday pass 6 weeks, do i kacau my lovely bird , what is the time table for me to check inside the bh? I almost enter the bh every week. worry about the this...that..tweeter .

Oh man! i think i am have so many question that i can not finish to post here. Wish you all sifu here to give me command + advise. Thank you very much.

my auto gate is just to keep away from owl. I do have few 4" gap with the gate in case the door get jam.

Thanks for the advise west wing and aeiou. But my land got quite a few of owl, should i turn it off now? how to monitor the right time in the future?

[quote=tongserseng,Mar 9 2009, 01:14 PM]
[quote=siewann,Mar 8 2009, 10:32 PM]
4)Solar system- since my bh is in farmland without any power and water, i am using solar system drsign from local company. this system is coming with audio and all the timer like auto door(close at 8pm, open at 6:30am), light, humifier, cctv. So far the system is working pretty good, because my audio is never down(touch wood). This system can be stand 7 days without sunlight.
This kind of technique are rare in swiftlet farming..........
Solar system....... Where to get the water supply for humidifier ???? Can share ????????
How much is the total cost for the system ?????? Can introduce the supplier ??????????
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the solar system is design by TELETRON. the person who incharge is call chalie tel: 0126388900. i pay more than 20k for that. the price will vary for differ location, because of weather. the system will only supply power, i got water from "Hutan" lah.

My friend also got the same problem. he use electric shock + sportlight also not use. but his entrance hole is at the side wall. all his bird dead(about 300) and wait almost 5~6 month to get back some bird

Hi everybody,
Just want to share happyness to u all. Just check in my bh this morning, and found 3 Bird nest mark after 4 months of waiting in front of cctv almost everyday ha~ha. May i ask some question to all the sifu out there?
1) I count my bh got about 12 birds so far, is that mean there are 6 birds are pair since i got 3 bn mark?
2) my bh is open roof type, so can i place my tweeter to four differ direction? now my tweeter is facing north, will i confuse those bird if i place more tweeter to other direction? TQ

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Added on April 9, 2009, 4:00 pmmore question?
3) 3 months to get 12 birds, is it normal?

4) when should i start to search the fault and improve my bh?

This post has been edited by siewann: Apr 9 2009, 04:03 PM

So far so good, the solar work just fine. it has been running 3 months without any problem.
they only tell me, the system can supply 3 to 4 hundred tweeter + 2 humifiyer + few light each floor + auto gate + cctv only. if i want more than more money they will need.

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Added on April 13, 2009, 11:44 amTq west wing and all the sifus out there,
may i ask some more question?
1)Since my new bh is start to have bird nest mark, when and what should i do the maintain inside the bh?
2) how long could i go inside the bh since my bh is so new?
3)if monthly maintain is ok, then what is the best time to do it?

Few day ago one of my friend has give a ideal regarding preven from owl, he come out a ideal don't know is it work or not? he want to put a tweeter at the entrance hole and swich on the radio at night to scare the owl? what u all sifus think about it?

This post has been edited by siewann: Apr 13 2009, 11:44 AM

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[quote=siewann,Apr 13 2009, 11:23 AM]
So far so good, the solar work just fine. it has been running 3 months without any problem.
they only tell me, the system can supply 3 to 4 hundred tweeter + 2 humifiyer + few light each floor + auto gate + cctv only. if i want more than more money they will need.
I do phone him he said u buy 25k is it?
DC ampli u blast it 24 hours for external sound or u got a timer for that ?

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Hi Kuching_farmer,
he is right, i pay 25k for that system. It come with 8 timer controler. my external sound will close at 8 pm. u can program the timers at any time u want.

hi ben,
i am very interested the Pak. Han,s next seminar, so could u tell me where to get the seminar info? Thanks