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post Feb 16 2009, 11:18 PM, updated 17y ago

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I'm making this post in the interest of enlightening current and future PDA users about the new trend of WVGA and WQVGA. With the age of Wide screen devices, its important to understand the limitations.

It is important for now to understand the implications of what the new product lines mean to us, especially for hardcore PDA gamers.

First off, when third party games are created, they are usually created for the standard VGA or QVGA resolution. Now, QVGA resolution games will work on VGA (except for a minority) while VGA games will not work on QVGA.

With a Wide resolution device, whether WVGA or WQVGA, these games or applications no longer function at all, or if they do, leave a wide black gap or even worse, you could see the background of your Today screen.

For comparison, it would be like a game running on three quarters on your PC screen.

When this happens, the game will either crash, or hang your entire device, forcing a soft reset.

However, that being said and done, a WVGA or WQVGA does have advantages, such as a superb multimedia device, especially for movies. Also there are new game developers that are coming out with games for Wide resolution devices. But unfortunately, while these are big timers such as Gameloft, their games are sadly rip offs.

Seems to me like its a trend that JAVA games are being ported from normal mobile phones into windows mobile format. And the gameplay and all are exactly as you would expect from a java game! I woudnt mind paying the usual 3 bucks or so for a java game, but such games are being charged at least around 10USD per game! In the good old days, such games are exclusive PDA games, but now we're paying such a high price for what is essentially a JAVA game! You'd want to be careful, and proprely get a demo for the game before paying for it, especially stuff from Gameloft. From experience, Gameloft does have good games, for a java game, but its usually completed within an hour. Taking into account the price you pay, its not really worth it. So that being said and done, gaming on WVGA or WQVGA is still rather crippled.

Another important point to not is the lack of hardware buttons on WVGA and WQVGA screens. Companies such as HTC seem to be aiming for estatics rather than actual function. While touch sensitive like "buttons" are admittedly much more stylish and sleek, but most 3rd party games NEED such buttons in order to play. A fine example would be Worms World Party. Hence, the games that MAY function on WVGA or WQVGA now have a new challenge. They have to be totally unreliant on hardware buttons, or they'll be unplayable. QWERTY is not considered hardware buttons as most games cant use them anyway.

These are the things you should take in mind when considerring new products such as HTC Touch HD, or any other wide resolution PDAs with lack of hardware buttons.

Perhaps when we see more games designed to be totally Wide resolution compatible or less hardkeys reliant. But right now, as far as i can tell, HTC has downgraded their new product lines in order to specifically compete with Iphone.

They are probably targetting people who have never used PDAs before, usual handphone users. Which is why since Touch Diamond, most PDA owners are totally newbie PDA users. Before this, most of the PDA owners are people who upgraded their current model. Personally, i'd stick with a standard VGA or QVGA reso with nice hardware keys, until the day i find games such as POWDER, Worms, The Quest, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Call of Duty 2, and more uninteresting.

The Iphone, while being a newer platform, has actually more gaming possibilities than the new WVGA / WQVGA devices with no hardkeys.


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post Feb 17 2009, 12:14 AM

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I hear you man. I'm definitely in the category of someone who switched from to PDA phones after using normal hp for a long time aka newbie. But i'm sure i didn't switch because of gaming purposes.

I guess there aren't many hardcore gamers anymore. I personally just need a stylus and that's it. Simple word games and puzzles are much more fun for me. I'd rather play RPGs etc on my computer. Just different opinion i guess and because of this a diamond fits perfectly for me. I'm also learning the full capabilities of a PDA phone but at an agonizingly slow pace.

At the end of the day, it still bows down to marketing i guess. Good article. Cheers.
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post Feb 17 2009, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(RoMa_84 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:14 AM)
I hear you man. I'm definitely in the category of someone who switched from to PDA phones after using normal hp for a long time aka newbie. But i'm sure i didn't switch because of gaming purposes.

I guess there aren't many hardcore gamers anymore. I personally just need a stylus and that's it. Simple word games and puzzles are much more fun for me. I'd rather play RPGs etc on my computer. Just different opinion i guess and because of this a diamond fits perfectly for me. I'm also learning the full capabilities of a PDA phone but at an agonizingly slow pace.

At the end of the day, it still bows down to marketing i guess. Good article. Cheers.
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mayb you havent played any good pda games b4 other than those preinstalled ones.
though you cant compare pda games with psp, desktop or console games.

but ther is a WOW effect in it.... that made me playing 1-2 games on bed, b4 i dooze off tongue.gif
yea... rather noobish graphics if you compare to psp....
but sumhow, the addiction is ther.

great article, baronic.
prolly the gaming factor wont affect most of the non-gamers.
anyway.... the new pda user nowadays are too deeply poisoned...
its something even a pda-grandmaster like you cant change.

the world is changing everyday blush.gif
people tend to follow blind-folded rclxub.gif
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(RoMa_84 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:14 AM)
I hear you man. I'm definitely in the category of someone who switched from to PDA phones after using normal hp for a long time aka newbie. But i'm sure i didn't switch because of gaming purposes.

I guess there aren't many hardcore gamers anymore. I personally just need a stylus and that's it. Simple word games and puzzles are much more fun for me. I'd rather play RPGs etc on my computer. Just different opinion i guess and because of this a diamond fits perfectly for me. I'm also learning the full capabilities of a PDA phone but at an agonizingly slow pace.

At the end of the day, it still bows down to marketing i guess. Good article. Cheers.
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a diamond is fine as its still a standard VGA resolution smile.gif. U should try POWDER (a rogue like game, like Diablo for PDA, freeware) and The Quest, another epic RPG game. thanks for the compliments smile.gif

@ahnien, yea, problem is most people are from the handphone market, so they dun know this issue, so cant really blame them. nonetheless i wrote this today to enlighten them
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post Feb 17 2009, 02:34 PM

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My previous problem on WVGA is cannot built todayscreen theme, and alots of todayscreen theme is not compatible.

thumbsup Baronic, wise guy reminder
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post Feb 17 2009, 08:46 PM

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I have 2 QVGA phones and one wide screen 5800. 5800`s screen is nicer to work with, but no buttons to game and the lack of graphics accelerator truly sucks
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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Feb 17 2009, 08:46 PM)
I have 2 QVGA phones and one wide screen 5800. 5800`s screen is nicer to work with, but no buttons to game and the lack of graphics accelerator truly sucks
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har... nk 5800 is wqvga 640 x 360 reso... not qvga.

unless the phone/game manufac can come out with games similar to iphone games tat doesnt require hardware buttons. their games basically works fully with the accelerometer and touch screen.

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post Feb 18 2009, 04:59 PM

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baronic, the PDA gaming community is rather peanut and hard-core PDA gamers like you is like 'grabbing for a needle from sea'. simple golden rule: when there's demand, there would be supply. ps games, wiisport, and whatnot are far more attractive with greater multimedia effects. game seller will only look at business with good return. having said that, i'm not concur that PDA is not a good device for gaming, i can only say, it's not at its maturity level and popularity.
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:57 PM

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its been near 7 years to get various software support only for VGA since Axim x50v, I think WVGA support still far ahead.

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Feb 18 2009, 08:57 PM)
its been near 7 years to get various software support  only for VGA since Axim x50v, I think WVGA support still far ahead.
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we don't really have much issues with PC games. LCD was a norm in everyone's house now and we can still run diablo, counter strike, dune, etc with slightly fatter heroes and buildings.

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QUOTE(callmepaper @ Feb 19 2009, 12:48 PM)
we don't really have much issues with PC games. LCD was a norm in everyone's house now and we can still run diablo, counter strike, dune, etc with slightly fatter heroes and buildings.
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pc n laptops is a so common in every house, tat its almost considered a common electrical appliance.
while PDA grow in the market... is onli at its expansion period... starting to get more market shares...

big difference leh.
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QUOTE(ahnien @ Feb 17 2009, 09:43 PM)
har... nk 5800 is wqvga 640 x 360 reso... not qvga.

unless the phone/game manufac can come out with games similar to iphone games tat doesnt require hardware buttons. their games basically works fully with the accelerometer and touch screen.
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I said I have 2 QVGA phones and one wide reso 5800
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post Feb 20 2009, 08:48 AM

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Most QVGA program and games almost work on VGA screen. However WVGA (and WQVGA) has different aspect ratio, some old program refuse to work. For those who already bough WVGA and WQVGA dont worry, they will have support too soon icon_rolleyes.gif


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problem is most companies wont adapt to WVGA or WQVGA, since its basically "not worth doing it"
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well... they kinda make a few... which cost like a few k.... in other words, could buy you a decent laptop or other gadgets which is worth the price.

soon in the near future... wide... will be edible tongue.gif i eating maggi mee
but not now smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2009, 01:11 AM

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this articles was linked to my blog, I hope u dont mind notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 20 2009, 09:54 PM)
problem is most companies wont adapt to WVGA or WQVGA, since its basically "not worth doing it"
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no problem, matter of fact its a good idea to encourage public awareness on this. will link your blog later too some good useful info there. lol.
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i also dunno what is my pda resolution, VGA or ...what what...
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Depends on the OS too actually and from what I see, although there are wide reso WM phones, those standard ones are more common.

On S60 v5, there are no phones currently using standard reso
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Symbian never fullfill my needs... imho

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