yes.. better they delay the release of this idou and make sure it has really good 12mp camera.. dont end up the camera is worse then renoir..

i think most of the work done before releasing satio is mostly to do with fixing any bugs in the firmware and optimizing more of the interface.
there are unlikely any changes in the hardware.

yerp. hopefully it will kinetic scrolling also. n they shud optimize the camera also so that it can be at least on par with pixon12

The price difference between the two is negligible - the PIXON12 will retail for 600 Euro or so, whereas the i8190 HD will be available for 650-700 Euro.

Given that the won't be a bunch of 12 MP cameraphones around, it's worth mentioning the Sony Ericsson Satio - an S60 smartphone going for around 600 Euro. As far as its camera is concerned, the Satio can offer very similar image quality and comparable ergonomics, yet much fewer settings. While it will generate some sales, it won't outdo the PIXON12 - the Satio is set to arrive much later and the its only chance for success is if its price drops by 20 percent at the least. Alas, that's impossible.

hahaha, samsung is trying to get on sony's neck.
sony announced a 12mp cameraphone first, but samsung had it on the market before sony.
but reviews say that sony has already lost the 12mp battle to samsung.

i quote:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsun...910-en.shtml#19

at uk , satio and aino will release on 7th october 2009 ~

but not released at the entire rest of the world together.

then when will it arrive here?

no idea yet...so far only mentioned UK,
dunno wen is malaysia. just have to keep checking tech blogs to find out.

That is nice before Deepavali....hehehehe...after Raya...plus one more month delay..maybe reach here in November or else early December...great X'mas for myself...hehehehe

as i know hk release date is 16th october , and i visit sony ericsson m'sia website just now , it shows SATIO coming soon , u can leave your email address , and their will email you when SATIO available at market . i think must be october ~ and also samsung pixon12 , i received mail by samsung m'sia~ dont know choose  SATIO or PIXON12 ????