but tat's the first phone to be able todo it

halo, may i know for aino, when we are surfing the net can we use the touch screen or keypad only?

nokia always been the 'battery eater'. while SE manages to stand longer than nokia even it's mah is low.
but with xenon flash, im certainly expect that we need to charge, everyday.

but i do hope there will be an upgraded battery just like n82.

anyone know the price tag? I've heard hong kong selling it around HK$5600

i think generally battery of that capacity always has short lives.
u can google up review for samsung pixon 12.
its a 12mp xenon flash camera touchscreen OLED phone with ~1000mah battery.
some of the cons i saw are short battery life.

This post has been edited by nghj: Sep 7 2009, 07:41 AM

If I want a 12 MP camera, might as well buy a digital camera. You will get better satisfaction. There are Sony digital cameras which are very compact and have good lenses. The battery life of the phone would be an issue. If the phone uses a 1000 miH Lithium ion battery, you cannot use the phone for more than a day if you keep using the camera and its flash. For less than RM2K you can get a good digital camera with better specs (and price). For me price >RM2K is not worth it for a phone. I can buy a notebook also for less than RM3K. Anyway that's my opinion but for those who have a lot of RM to use, by all means buy one.

well, i'm not very sure about the others, but i'm not considering this phone just bcos it's got 12mp and xenon, but rather it's just one of the advantages compared to other phones with almost the same price and function.

let's say someone is lookin for a touchscreen camera phone at least 5mp, with gps and wifi, most of the phones (n97, i8910, omnia 2, jet, pixon12) fall into this price category (around rm2k or above). since you gotta buy a phone at this price anyway, why not consider one with a better camera, isnt it?

What is the advantage? If 12MP is the advantage but sensor sucks, then it's OUT. Anyway, this phone been delay. And by that time, Samsung, Nokia would release something even far better. Sad to say, this phone caught my eye before. But after other manufacturer release better phone, I don't seem to know why people still want this phone

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 7 2009, 12:48 PM

if u want to know wats the advantage, ask those who want xenon flashes to be included in every cameraphone.

12MP without bigger sensor with Xenon Flash is useless. Eventhough we could adjust the Megapixel to 5MP, then other 7MP is useless. I know the advantage of Xenon Flash. I tried my boss N82 before. Works perfect. The camera is nice. Because of it's sensor. It's suits with 5MP of the N82. Satio? If Sony didn't do anything with the sensor. It's useless, the picture isn't good for higher pixel picture. It's a drawback for Satio. I think so. Wait for the review.



This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 7 2009, 03:28 PM

in any case, even if sony is dumb enough not to put a new sensor inside, wont u agree that xenon flash will provide enough light so that pictures in the dark are not choppy compared to using only a LED flash? most cameras take good picture in bright lighting, it's just the dark to makes everyone look bad.

Yeah, but the drawback is still there. Quality picture is bad when set to 12MP. Anyway, if I want 12MP, better go for Digital Camera.

yes, i understand. a phone is still a phone, point taken.
it's like saying, u spend so much to buy n97, i can use the same money to buy a netbook, yadayada.
i'm not looking for a camera, i'm looking for the phone with the best functions overall.

Okeh, dun get so mad.

Anyway, I heard Sony is trying to bring PSP games to Satio phone. Wonder if it's true.

i've been cool like a cucumber so far..

lol, im not always bringing my camera everyday.
camera + phone would help me bringing it every-single-day.

why im interested? touch + S60 + 12mp + xenon
if n97 got any of this, im sure will buy it, but nokia's being the xenon-hater lately. or being too focused on LED baby lights. like n86, subduing the xenon lights are very, stupid acts done by nokia.

I dont see Nokia coming out with something to compete with ths monster anytime soon

I donno where u get the info that satio have a sux sensor? From what i've learned from GSM Arena, satio have a very good sensor in witch it can fully replace a mid-range point-and-shoot digicam

source: GSM Arena Sony Ericsson Satio (Idou) preview

This post has been edited by cheebc: Sep 7 2009, 10:52 PM

I mention IF. Cause I'm not pretty sure myself either. Most manufacturer just added higher MP but they forget to make the sensor bigger and better. So I do have my doubts on this phone.

so this time they make the sensor better as well? please enlighten me cos i dunno what are those technical stuff