I guess everyone is waiting for this Satio and Aino. How come does the Aino get better ratings at GSMArena.com compared to Satio? I was poisoned with this phone since... CNY this year. Now seems like the wait is neverending.

nokia always been the 'battery eater'. while SE manages to stand longer than nokia even it's mah is low.
but with xenon flash, im certainly expect that we need to charge, everyday.

but i do hope there will be an upgraded battery just like n82.

If I want a 12 MP camera, might as well buy a digital camera. You will get better satisfaction. There are Sony digital cameras which are very compact and have good lenses. The battery life of the phone would be an issue. If the phone uses a 1000 miH Lithium ion battery, you cannot use the phone for more than a day if you keep using the camera and its flash. For less than RM2K you can get a good digital camera with better specs (and price). For me price >RM2K is not worth it for a phone. I can buy a notebook also for less than RM3K. Anyway that's my opinion but for those who have a lot of RM to use, by all means buy one.

What is the advantage?  If 12MP is the advantage but sensor sucks, then it's OUT. Anyway, this phone been delay. And by that time, Samsung, Nokia would release something even far better. Sad to say, this phone caught my eye before. But after other manufacturer release better phone, I don't seem to know why people still want this phone 

12MP without bigger sensor with Xenon Flash is useless. Eventhough we could adjust the Megapixel to 5MP, then other 7MP is useless. I know the advantage of Xenon Flash. I tried my boss N82 before. Works perfect. The camera is nice. Because of it's sensor. It's suits with 5MP of the N82. Satio? If Sony didn't do anything with the sensor. It's useless, the picture isn't good for higher pixel picture. It's a drawback for Satio. I think so. Wait for the review. 

Yeah, but the drawback is still there. Quality picture is bad when set to 12MP. Anyway, if I want 12MP, better go for Digital Camera. 

Okeh, dun get so mad. 

Anyway, I heard Sony is trying to bring PSP games to Satio phone. Wonder if it's true. 

yes.. better they delay the release of this idou and make sure it has really good 12mp camera.. dont end up the camera is worse then renoir..

yerp. hopefully it will kinetic scrolling also. n they shud optimize the camera also so that it can be at least on par with pixon12

The price difference between the two is negligible - the PIXON12 will retail for 600 Euro or so, whereas the i8190 HD will be available for 650-700 Euro.

Given that the won't be a bunch of 12 MP cameraphones around, it's worth mentioning the Sony Ericsson Satio - an S60 smartphone going for around 600 Euro. As far as its camera is concerned, the Satio can offer very similar image quality and comparable ergonomics, yet much fewer settings. While it will generate some sales, it won't outdo the PIXON12 - the Satio is set to arrive much later and the its only chance for success is if its price drops by 20 percent at the least. Alas, that's impossible.

at uk , satio and aino will release on 7th october 2009 ~

then when will it arrive here?

that is why i scare most transfering contacts from Nokia to SE. Everytime pening. Hehehe

mobical is sync online then download it back? is it free?
definitely more than 2k

grrrr. RM2xxx

confuse, getting this phone or iphone 3gs.

this phone not good?

satio rocks and its announcement on the new ARM Cortex processor really just make me like this phone more! Go SE i am always with you

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaIR37qqozU

i dont know how to post up the link , but this is SONY ERICSSON SATIO UNBOXING VIDEO , check it out ~

So this phone is power by symbian like the Nokia?

Can this phone install garmin then?