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viper88
post Mar 3 2009, 09:26 PM

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Ya.. resort close to RM2 is very tempting. drool.gif
Dang... our economy getting worst but our government bz with Perak issues. doh.gif

Perak Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen attended an emergency sitting at a vacant lot under a tree
http://gallery.thestar.com.my/default.asp?id=1192

This can be one of the best Malaysia funny event for 2009. rolleyes.gif

Everday CI drop..
Our country political and economy but sux.

No eyes see... shakehead.gif

QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 3 2009, 12:02 PM)
Aihhhh.... missed the Star Cruise....  RESORT boat......  blush.gif
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post Mar 4 2009, 10:11 AM

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IJM drop, Zelan have IJM shares. Construction sector is bearish in recession.

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Mar 4 2009, 09:35 AM)
walau din watch zelan long now drop to 0.67 .. why is it so? why drop so much? anyone getting it now?
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post Mar 4 2009, 09:25 PM

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I don't see Zelan have any IJM warrant in this list.
30 largest ijm-warant holder
http://www.ijm.com/ir_30_warrantholders.htm

For IJM mother share, Zelan is one of its main shareholder, this already known since last time.
I check with Jupiter Remiser, Zelan shares for IJM itself is worth about RM0.55-0.58. At current price, buying Zelan is only about Rm0.10 + if not include the IJM shares.
My remiser also says theres possibility the ex Zelan boss selling his remaining 5% shares without need to declare in annoucement.

Here's RHB research on Zelan.
Attached File  RHB___Zelan.pdf ( 81.69k ) Number of downloads: 33



QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Mar 4 2009, 11:50 AM)
IJM-warrant is going to expire soon and zelan had alot of IJM shares and warant, so if ijm shares cannot go up and the IJM-warant is good as dead.

Conversion price of IJM-Warant is Rm4.80 to IJM mother shares.
IJM warant market price is 30 cents + conversion price RM4.80 = Rm5.10 for IJM shares but market price of IJM shares is RM3.50 only.

and the price is far away from the market price and if IJM goes down to Rm2.18 from the previous low there is no hope for the warant left. IJM is still above RM1++ from is previous low see whether is still can maintain or not. EPF buys alot of IJM shares and also have alot of IJM-warant.

so zelan will it affect its prcing or not u figure it out.

IJM esos price is Rm3.90. as the directors is holding alot and market price below the ESOS price RM3.50

for the construction sector like gamuda fro previous low is Rm1++ but now is around rm1.90
still have alot of room to fall.

ytl, ijm all from rm1++ above there previous still have room to fall.

When recession time will hit construction sector first but until now still have not yet.

30 largest ijm-warant holder
http://www.ijm.com/ir_30_warrantholders.htm

30 largest ijm holder
http://www.ijm.com/ir_30_shareholders.htm

ijm share buyback
http://www.ijm.com/ir_share_buyback.htm

ijm director dealing
http://www.ijm.com/ir_directors_dealing_08_09.htm

ijm previous share price
http://www.ijm.com/arc_share.htm

substantial shareholder
http://www.ijm.com/ir_subshare_dealing_09.htm
http://www.ijm.com/ir_subs_share.htm

ijm share capital
http://www.ijm.com/ir_share_capital.htm
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30 largest ijm-warant holder
http://www.ijm.com/ir_30_warrantholders.htm

Zelan name is not in the list. If Zelan have alot IJM warrants, how come its not listed inside the list but listed only in IJM main mother shares only? hmm.gif

Try read here on Zelan IJM shares. No IJM warrants.
http://tobeasuccesstrader.blogspot.com/200...n-nov-2008.html
"Zelan’s net cash, its current investments and the IJM stake amounted to RM320 million or about 57 sen per share. The company does not have warrants or convertible loan stocks outstanding that could dilute its share price."

US market keep dropping since last week ...now oni green..
Lets see how KLSE perform 2day.

QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Mar 4 2009, 09:54 PM)
Zelan (previously was tronoh) previous bought bulk IJM shares from IGB at the price of Rm4.90. whereas for IJM-Warant, zelan should have IJM-warant from its mother share IJM. from its listing of IJM-warant at how many IJM mother shares should entitle how many warant were given.
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Zelan cash balance sheet still strong but still have ppl throw its shares to new low.

Testing lvl till 0.58 about IJM shares value?
Next week no good news for construction sector tat can boost Zelan?
Unforseen losses for the Q1 2009?

QUOTE(eltaria @ Mar 5 2009, 11:53 AM)
Zelan non stop, if what viper mentioned is true, buy zelan get IJM + free zelan...
I'm a bit tempted to buy also, but parked my money with scomi dee.
Why aren't people picking them up? not much support.
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Ya.. drop alot since last friday.. from 0.81 drop to 0.60. Today closing time lotsa big vol sellers throwing their shares.. looks like
the "Panic" sell triggered ady.. sweat.gif

Really pushing Zelan shares down close to IJM shares value... Zelan shares only worth less than 0.10? rclxub.gif

From Jupiter analyst research. Attached File  IdeasZelan.pdf ( 594.85k ) Number of downloads: 25

In valuing Zelan’s breakup value divided its assets into 3 components: -
1. Net cash – 6.75 sen
2. Value accruing from IJM shares – 53.79 sen
3. Value from order book – 22.37 sen
4. Other assets to be set off its liabilities, hence assumed nil.
Total breakup value per share of Zelan is 82.91 sen.

QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 5 2009, 09:19 PM)
Ya Zelan is dropping like crazy. I was think of buying at 0.80 but did not get it. Now only 0.61.  smile.gif
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Based on recent heavy sell down, i suspect its being push close to its IJM shares values.

QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 5 2009, 10:32 PM)
Wow do you mean Zelan is now only valued at what IJM shares are? That's pretty sad news because that means investors got no confidence on it's future profits.
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Added on March 5, 2009, 11:14 pmPar value? Resorts par value only 0.10. Does tat mean Resorts only 0.10 shares?

Use NTA per shares will show more clearly how much the stock worth after minus all the losses.

QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Mar 5 2009, 10:38 PM)
zelan par value only rm0.50. 50 cents shares

down jones dropping more than 100 points already
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Value accruing from IJM shares

QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:33 PM)
I thought IJM at 3.62 but why you guys said Zelan share price is close to IJM ?
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Yup... unless theres support from EPF and other big pocket ppl .....
The 2nd stimulus plans aims more on construction sector. Hopefully this counter can climb up back after few days heavy onslaught.

Weird.. hmm.gif MMC no trading yet? no seller and no buyers.. MMC stock tumble alot early this year den climb back about 0.50 like nothing happen only. Albukhary n EPF support it kaw kaw to go up.

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 6 2009, 12:39 AM)
tomoorow? tommorow can see blood shed again la. No need to think. I think Zelan will head south this morning.
No eye see.
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Zelan price have drop almost 25% from 0.80..
Some strong buyer que support at 0.590 currently....
Not sure whether its EPF start taking advantage of the current situation to buy in at cheap price.

















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Ya.. drop to another new low.. doh.gif

Tat bugger.. Syed Albukhary wont let its company go burst easily.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/84/biz_ma...khary_KZFR.html

QUOTE(aoisky @ Mar 6 2009, 06:45 PM)
OMG zelan 0.56 only now day by day zelan share dropping will zelan still be able to bounds back, y their share holder dont 1 2 share buy back. just this company wouldnt bust
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post Mar 7 2009, 05:00 PM

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Here are some old links about Zelan and MMC.

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/newsb...s.php?id=376133

http://www.mmc.com.my/content.asp?menuid=1...003&PressId=108

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn62...ag=content;col1

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn62...ag=content;col1

Zelan 2008 report
Attached File  ZelanFinancialRpt.pdf ( 55.75k ) Number of downloads: 17


Its profit lost in shares value is -14.15 sen for end of year 2008 but its current price get bashed up very badly.

Based on Zelan current price, with its current order book, IJM shares + cash + assests worth.. buying zelan is like getting it for free as its current price is very close to its IJM shares value. When IJM shares goes up or construction profits in the future , Zelan shares will also go up.

Need to see what is Zelan next strong support lvl and selling pressure over... currently things is still messy. rclxub.gif


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Yup... i suspect EPF or other shark is already buying at current price to average down previous high.. 500,000, 300,000, 200,000 units 1st, 2nd 3rd.. 5th at buy que matched easily due to so many ppl throwing/sell off their shares..

Maybe some foreign fund selloff zelan shares as well..they are well known to throw stocks at low price.

QUOTE(Freelancer @ Mar 7 2009, 05:57 PM)
Most probably the sharks also smart. Slowly accumulating at the lowest price possible.
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For those who interested to know how much IJM shares bought previously by Zelan.

With IJM shares itself, the current ijm shares value already about 0.50 ++ . Can check out with research house to confirm on this.

Attached File  ZelanIJM.pdf ( 23.73k ) Number of downloads: 34


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Maxis offered RM15.60. I have some Maxis shares previously and the accepted the offer. During tat time, market still quite ok so the offered price is acceptable.
I have some of my friend who rejected the offer and later sell direct to his broker at 15.80. Later Arab bought maxis shares in overseas.. rolleyes.gif

In Uembldr case, its price drop from about 1.90 - 2++ to lowest 0.95+/- den slowly climb up back to 1.36 +/-. The offer from UEM is only RM1.42.
It was during the market crash time and its easy for UEM offer to get accepted as many shareholders already wanted to exit.

At current price, zelan 0.56.. it will be very cheap if MMC plan to privatise it.
MMC have denied any plans to privatise or inject Zelan with MMC Engineering last year.
http://www.mmc.com.my/content.asp?menuid=1...ouncementId=394

http://tobeasuccesstrader.blogspot.com/200...n-nov-2008.html

"Financial Health …
Zelan’s net cash and short term current investments amounted to RM115 million as of Sept 2008, after deducting its total debts of RM93 million. On top of that, it holds 82 million shares or 9.57% stakes in IJM. The stake was worth Rm205 million based on closing price of Rm2.50.
Zelan’s net cash, its current investments and the IJM stake amounted to RM320 million or about 57 sen per share. The company does not have warrants or convertible loan stocks outstanding that could dilute its share price."


IJM closing price last friday was RM 3.58 compare to last year Nov which is only rm2.50... tat time Zelan price drop to 0.78.

It seems weird as Zelan's current IJM shares price value have increase by rm1 from last year but Zelan shares still plunge to 0.56.. rclxub.gif
Drop about 80%. I feel some1 is pushing down Zelan price either foreign sharesholder, big pocket tycoon or panic sell from minority sharesholder.


QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2009, 04:37 PM)
Maxis being privatised at around Rm15 if not mistaken.

Your won't lose money in the privatisation process, they will acquire the share from you at a price, but if your initial buying price of the share is higher than privatisation price then you will lose the money even though the company has good future.

Privatisation process is not be a surely smoothly process, if offer price too low, shareholders might not agree to sell their stake, eventually privatisation  won't be succeeded.
Yup, for normal and well managed company, the company doesn't bother the share price of the company, it doesn't affect the company business operation at all, except company need to raise capital through right issue etc.
It is very difficult to secure finance backing from banks for privatisation in current situation. Even for the like Airasia is not able to secure financing for its privatisation as reported previous. So even though share price is low which enable to privatise it cheaply, but financing is the most problematic part for those interested to do so.

Immediate potential privatisation target is Resort. Because Resort is holding significant amount of cash and with significant positive cashflow from operation each year, those privatised it can access and utilise the cash for their own usage which amounted 4 billion +
But Resort price tag won't come too cheap, as even at Rm2.00 and with share issued of near 6 billion, they need to come out 12 billion or more, because if they offer 2.00, I don't think they will succeed. So any amount below 15 billion, don't think privatisation can easily be taken place.
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Zelan found some support at 0.535-0.54.. some buyer start biting at big vols... i saw 10 -15 continuous buy just now.

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Mar 10 2009, 11:06 AM)
LCL drop like zelan also doh.gif
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Nope. last purchased was at 0.76 very little units only.
I didn't chk Jupiter research on Zelan last week..3/3/08.theres a Sell Call on Zelan but i miss it.. doh.gif
My remiser have told me Zelan support price is around 0.80.. and minimum is 0.55-0.58 which is close to IJM shares value...

Jupiter sell call on 3/3/09
"Chart wise : ……downside breakout……..
Zelan had on 2/3/2009 broke below RM0.75
support level to reach an intra-day low of
RM0.685 in higher volume before settled at
RM0.695 on the same day.
Where would be the immediate overhead
resistance for Zelan ?
The way Zelan carried itself was seen not
encouraging with selling pressure likely to
press their luck today with next immediate
support at RM0.55 level.
Resistance selling can be expected between
RM0.75 – RM0.80."

I was too busy with office work last week coz alot staff went for training and tat week also i went for an operation MC 2 days.. sad.gif
Thought the panic sell is over last friday after the strong rebound to 0.78-0.80.
Make big blunder coz i didn't cut at 8-10% lost and re-enter at a much lower price position.. shakehead.gif
Zelan at current price is around its minimum lvl... i wanted to average down but my cash need time to reload.

Hope tomorrow Zelan can have some good rebound. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(aoisky @ Mar 10 2009, 07:47 PM)
zelan no eye c liao drop again 2day look like it will never recover for the time being. everyday new low recorded, btw did u average down ur purchase ?
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Here's last week research paper on MMCCorp and IJM.

MMCCorp EGM for 2nd SAT valuation end of this month.

Attached File  MMC_Second_20Valuation_20for_20SATS_20_20090306_OSK.pdf ( 80.32k ) Number of downloads: 20


Attached File  IJM_20Corp_9MFY09_20Results_20Review_20090225_20OSK.pdf ( 41.04k ) Number of downloads: 20



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Ya.. this counter get hit so bad.. rclxub.gif
Theres a new research paper on Zelan from Jupiter.
Attached File  Zelan.pdf ( 271.2k ) Number of downloads: 73


QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:32 PM)
Zelan is riding a submarine...

0.510!
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You can try use this one.
http://tradesignum.com

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Mar 13 2009, 04:35 PM)
thanks cherroy
how about if i want to know all the historical prices & charts
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